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Alright boys so I’ve been mapping this cycle out for a little. Wanna get some feedback or critique before I start:

600mg test e
400mg NPP
300mg Mast P

ancillaries as needed
 
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There's so many variables on what makes a good cycle. Just Naming a couple compounds doesn't help anyone critique it.

How long training, how old, How many cycles have you ran, what different compounds have you used and at what doses, what was your starting body weight before your first cycle and how big are you now. What's your diet like.

All of those things are valuable information that will help people critique your cycle but just naming a couple compounds doesn't give anybody information to give you any feedback, get what I'm saying?
 

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Yep, looks like a cycle lol.

What have you ran previously?
Lmao bro I meant more about dosages 😂 my injectable history is limited to test and deca. Oral history is tbol and anadrol.
 
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The doses don't mean anything without any information....

Example

So Tom is about to start his first cycle, he's been training for 2 years and weighs 158lbs, he hasn't gained any weight in the past year.

The cycle above would be total overkill because Tom doesn't know what he's doing yet with diet or gear, Tom needs more food and maybe a small 300-500mg test cycle, maybe adding something else in twords the end.

But bill has been training for 5 years, he started at 149 and is now 190lbs, he's used test up to 500mg and npp up to 300 mg, now the cycle you listed above looks great for bill.

I'm not sure what you want ppl to critique about the doses.

600 test is a good dose if you don't get bad estrogen sides

400npp is a good dose if you don't get prolactin sides

Mast is mast, 300 will help add to the total mg. I'd keem my mast even with my npp but that doesn't mean you need to
 

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There's so many variables on what makes a good cycle. Just Naming a couple compounds doesn't help anyone critique it.

How long training, how old, How many cycles have you ran, what different compounds have you used and at what doses, what was your starting body weight before your first cycle and how big are you now. What's your diet like.

All of those things are valuable information that will help people critique your cycle but just naming a couple compounds doesn't give anybody information to give you any feedback, get what I'm saying?
For sure bro, let me provide a little more background. I’m 29 years old, I’ve ran 3 or 4 cycles, been cruising for quite a while now. I’ve been training the better part of 8 years. I started around like 160 like 8 years ago and ran a DMZ cycle (found out about prohormones, dumb I know) and went to 180. My diet and training are dialed in and consistent. I went bulk crazy for a while and got up to 250lbs with way too much bloat and fat a few years ago (diet was horrible and not done correctly). Currently I’m sitting at 200 lbs. Haven’t gotten tested but BF% is approximately 12 or 13%. Im going to be finishing up a cut in the next 3-4 weeks and then im looking to put some clean size on
 
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Then yes, I like your cycle lol. It seems fitting for you. If you came in and said it's your first cycle and weight 150 I'd have a different opinion. My whole point in all of that was that usually when someone puts up a post like you did and just lays out a cycle it's usually their first cycle. If you haven't ran anything significant in a while I'd even suggest starting lower and building up the doses over time.

Like 450 test, 200-300npp, 200-300mast, rock out for 5-6 weeks then go 600/400/400 or something like that for the remainder of until gains stall out.
 
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Alright boys so I’ve been mapping this cycle out for a little. Wanna get some feedback or critique before I start:

600mg test e
400mg NPP
300mg Mast P

ancillaries as needed
I dunno what kind of gear you have taken in the past but........ Holy hell I'd be terrified for my health taking that much each week..... But that's just me.

If you are new or even relatively new to steroids, that's excessive IMO.
 

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Then yes, I like your cycle lol. It seems fitting for you. If you came in and said it's your first cycle and weight 150 I'd have a different opinion. My whole point in all of that was that usually when someone puts up a post like you did and just lays out a cycle it's usually their first cycle. If you haven't ran anything significant in a while I'd even suggest starting lower and building up the doses over time.

Like 450 test, 200-300npp, 200-300mast, rock out for 5-6 weeks then go 600/400/400 or something like that for the remainder of until gains stall out.
I’m kind of a scrub with forum posting obviously haha. I gotta work on it, didn’t even think of providing other information. Thanks for your input brotha, I think I’ll take your advice on ramping up
 

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I dunno what kind of gear you have taken in the past but........ Holy hell I'd be terrified for my health taking that much each week..... But that's just me.

If you are new or even relatively new to steroids, that's excessive IMO.
My health should be terrified of me bro
 
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My health should be terrified of me bro
There's nothing inherently dangerous about those doses, that's a pretty standard intermediate cycle, something someone would use 3-4 cycles down the road. Total mg 1300 is a little high, but with 600 of that coming from testosterone and 300 coming from masteron. I wouldn't be overly concerned. Someone running 200mg of tren with 1-2 anadrol per day would have far worse health markers then the cycle you listed
 
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With that said, most of my cycles are around 500-600total mg. But I'm also not trying to get huge, if I wanted to be over 220 I'd be running what you listed or something similar
 

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There's nothing inherently dangerous about those doses, that's a pretty standard intermediate cycle, something someone would use 3-4 cycles down the road. Total mg 1300 is a little high, but with 600 of that coming from testosterone and 300 coming from masteron. I wouldn't be overly concerned. Someone running 200mg of tren with 1-2 anadrol per day would have far worse health markers then the cycle you listed
I was only joking bc of what he had said haha I thought it was a fairly standard intermediate cycle like you said. Especially with starting a tad lower than I originally stated and titrating up. I decided against using any kind of orals mainly bc I don’t feel I get much added benefit in the end and it’s harder on my organs
 
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I was only joking bc of what he had said haha I thought it was a fairly standard intermediate cycle like you said. Especially with starting a tad lower than I originally stated and titrating up. I decided against using any kind of orals mainly bc I don’t feel I get much added benefit in the end and it’s harder on my organs
I know, I get what he's saying too, but you gotta consider what the gear is, not just how much. Some things are far less dangerous then others.

In a perfect world with unlimited money I'd use test/primo and GH and never touch anything else
 

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I know, I get what he's saying too, but you gotta consider what the gear is, not just how much. Some things are far less dangerous then others.

In a perfect world with unlimited money I'd use test/primo and GH and never touch anything else
I’ve been looking into both of those actually. It’s just t
I know, I get what he's saying too, but you gotta consider what the gear is, not just how much. Some things are far less dangerous then others.

In a perfect world with unlimited money I'd use test/primo and GH and never touch anything else
completely off topic and maybe I should create a thread for it but wanted to probe your mind because you seem pretty knowledgeable on a lot of subjects concerning aas.
as far is the fertility world is concerned, how are chances of gaining fertility after ceasing use of aas. From the research I’ve been doing it seems like a pretty good chance with current fertility treatment. Any thoughts on the subject?
 
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I’ve been looking into both of those actually. It’s just t

completely off topic and maybe I should create a thread for it but wanted to probe your mind because you seem pretty knowledgeable on a lot of subjects concerning aas.
as far is the fertility world is concerned, how are chances of gaining fertility after ceasing use of aas. From the research I’ve been doing it seems like a pretty good chance with current fertility treatment. Any thoughts on the subject?
I don't know a single person who became infertile from gear use. Guys have kids on and off cycles. Honestly, I think it's like everything else. If your fertile and your fertility is not declining then gear probably won't play a big role, and if it does it's probably going to be a easy fix.

But if you were already having fertility issues then gear is probably going to make it a lot worse.

Ronnie Coleman has like 5 kids, Arnold has 2-3, all the top guys have kids. Many steroids were attempted to be used medically as a male contraceptive but none of them were very good at it
 

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I don't know a single person who became infertile from gear use. Guys have kids on and off cycles. Honestly, I think it's like everything else. If your fertile and your fertility is not declining then gear probably won't play a big role, and if it does it's probably going to be a easy fix.

But if you were already having fertility issues then gear is probably going to make it a lot worse.

Ronnie Coleman has like 5 kids, Arnold has 2-3, all the top guys have kids. Many steroids were attempted to be used medically as a male contraceptive but none of them were very good at it
Thanks for making me feel better lol. I’ve read a good amount of stuff pretty much backing what you said but it’s still a concern. Also with aas being frowned upon their is quite a bit of fearmongering still
 
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Thanks for making me feel better lol. I’ve read a good amount of stuff pretty much backing what you said but it’s still a concern. Also with aas being frowned upon their is quite a bit of fearmongering still
The risks and dangers are definitely real. This isn't a risk free ride. Heavy abuse can lead to all kinds of health problems and even death, just like alcohol and cigarettes and recreational drugs.

Some ppl can drink like a fish and smoke a pack of cigarettes per day and live to be 90, another person might get lung cancer or liver problems by 40.
 
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I’ve been looking into both of those actually. It’s just t

completely off topic and maybe I should create a thread for it but wanted to probe your mind because you seem pretty knowledgeable on a lot of subjects concerning aas.
as far is the fertility world is concerned, how are chances of gaining fertility after ceasing use of aas. From the research I’ve been doing it seems like a pretty good chance with current fertility treatment. Any thoughts on the subject?
I used to take 750 a week of Sust back in the day for 16-20 weeks straight a few time a year ...... Ive had 4 children since those days.
 

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I used to take 750 a week of Sust back in the day for 16-20 weeks straight a few time a year ...... Ive had 4 children since those days.
That’s awesome bro. How much time off did you have before the first one?
 
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I believe there's a few very high level bodybuilding coaches, like coaching Mr Olympia contenders and there fertility protocol is to put there guys on 3,000mg of testosterone and nothing else and they knock up there lady every time. But they seem to always have daughters. I wish I could remember what podcast it was on that they talked about this lol
 
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That’s awesome bro. How much time off did you have before the first one?
About 2 years? But I did a few cycles of test or Sust along with methylated prohormones in between having children too..... My 13 year old was conceived when I was on 500mg a week of test c and 20mgs of dbol ed.
 

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I like test, npp cycles.
Test prop and npp 150 each every other day is where they helped me the most. Not experienced with mast. I always kept cycles at 10 weeks max for short esters.
 

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Debating on dropping the mast. This is going to be a bulk and I’m not sure how much I’ll get from the mast. Main reason I was throwing it in was for some added hardening and mainly the anti estrogenic properties it offers. Thoughts?
 
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OP, do you have any blood pressure and cholesterol ancillaries on hand?

TELMISARTAN and EZETIMIBE …..protect yourself whenever running PEDs.
 
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Not bp, but cholesterol
An ARB like TELMISARTAN would definitely keep you protected. Many other benefits to other than just blood pressure control.
 
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