cortisol blocker necessary for hdrol PCT?

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Ok, minus the atd is that a sufficient pct? What should or shouldn't I incorporate?[/QUOTE



i say everything you mentioned..just dont use the inhibit-e.. just my opinion

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Ok, minus the atd is that a sufficient pct? What should or shouldn't I incorporate?

I'm just going to lay this out for you in one post. I hope it helps. And yes, I will recommend Primordial Performance supplements. I know that the company I represent produces quality supplements. There are some people in this thread calling us out for "repping". Well, yes, we are reps, and we have a great deal of experience with our line of supplements.

4 weeks of PCT. 4 weeks of SERM usage. I recommend Clomid or Toremifene. Nolvadex is old hat in terms of PCT usage. I also recommend a low dosing of SERMs as they can cause some adverse affects as I mentioned previously in this topic.

Weeks 1-4: 50mg of Clomid per day.
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Using this strategy, there is simply no way to come off PCT and have your natural testosterone levels suppressed much at all.

You can simply do clomid at 50-100mg a day instead, without using the TRS, but you won't necessarily like the side effects and recovery won't be nearly as smooth.

I hope this post helped answer your questions about PCT. Anymore, feel free to either PM me, I'll help you out in more detail.

 

[DynaMight]

the way I reduce cortisol levels -

1.Vitamin B5
2.Vitamin B6
3.Vitamin C
4.Nutrient Phosphatidylserine 300mg daily, taken morning afternoon and evening
5.low glycemic diet
6.yoga

Thats how I do it and it works for me. Theres plenty of opinions out there find what works for you. And yeah I think you should work to reduce cortisol levels. not eliminate. its good for everyone. beAst of luck to ya

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Copied from another forum:

NAC and vitamin C has been recommended here by a bunch of people including Marc Mcdougal as a great combo for visceral fat loss[1] , but this article says it dangerous:

http://www.unisci.co...013/0927015.htm

"Initially, the vitamin C and NAC were given to prevent the injury, because we thought they'd have protective effects," Leeuwenburgh said. "Instead, they were damaging."

Leeuwenburgh attributes the damaging effects of the vitamin C and NAC to their reaction with iron in the body. Normally, iron is bound to proteins and enzymes and therefore can't react with vitamin C and NAC.

But when inflammation occurs -- as it does in muscular injuries and a variety of diseases such as Alzheimer's, arthritis and cardiovascular disease -- the body releases more free iron, which is highly reactive to outside elements -- in this case, vitamin C and NAC. Indeed, the researchers showed that there were increases in free iron following this type of exercise.

"Vitamin C isn't bad, and neither is NAC, but by some mechanism in this situation there were some pro-oxidant effects of supplementation," said April Childs, a graduate student in the department of exercise and sport sciences and the lead author of the study.

And although Leeuwenburgh says people who have taken vitamin C or NAC in the past shouldn't worry too much about the new finding, he recommends caution in supplementing vitamin C in doses greater than 100 mg after injuries or disease condition characterized by increases in free iron.

"People should limit their vitamin C intake until we know more," he said. "Everyone agrees that after 80 to 90 milligrams, about the recommended daily allowance, it goes out of your body since measurements show that white blood cells are saturated completely after this dose. You'd think that if it goes out of your body it isn't harmful, but maybe the high transient levels do react in a negative way. There's no benefit to taking more than the RDA, and it could actually harm you."

Furthermore, he said, "Vitamin C is believed to prevent cancer, but instead, it may be damaging. Studies performed in humans actually show that it may increase DNA damage."
Because vitamin C and NAC in the body appear to react most negatively with iron, Leeuwenburgh said, those with inflammatory diseases and those who take more than the recommended daily allowance of iron should be particularly vigilant about limiting their vitamin C and NAC intake.


"If you're taking more than the RDA of iron, you're putting yourself at risk by taking more than the RDA of vitamin C or NAC at the same time," Leeuwenburgh said. "Iron is very important in preventing anemia. So many people -- particularly women -- are supplementing, and the effects of supplementing iron and vitamin C for long periods have not been adequately studied.