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Controlled Labs greens contains cancer causing chemicals?

DCbuilder

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When you look at the writeup from Nutraplanet, it doesn't mention anything about this. Even looking quickly at the Controlled Labs website, I couldn't find it.

But when looking at my first bottle of their OxiMega Greens product, it says clear as can be on the back:

WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm.

I bought this looking to add some healthy greens to my regimen but now am a bit put off because I didn't see this warning prior to purchase.

Can a rep tell me what is going on w/ these cancer causing chemicals? I read some good things about this product and wanted to try it but would like some answers as to why this contains these chemicals and why this isn't mentioned anywhere on Nutraplanet or the CL website when it's clearly indicated in the Warnings section of the labeling?
 
The state of CA passed a ridiculous law that effectively requires that warning on all kinds of products. You don't have anything to worry about, this is just CL protecting themselves from lawsuits. Apparently even organic farmers have had to put this warning on their products, lol
 
yep this came up when Gold Feast first came out. it's a warning that is being stuck on just about everything now.
 
The State of California.....Sue First, Ask Questions Later. Hence all the warnings in CA. I love CA, but that explains it in a nutshell.
 
Same thing was on my WB2
 
I have Golden Gains too, will have to check the label.

What I don't get is, I'm looking at the ingredients and everything appears to be a vegetable or a fruit or some type of natural thing. Maybe it's a sweetener that's in it? Unless carrots now cause cancer... Reps do u know what the ingredient in question is in these greens?
 
100% of people who get cancer have drank water at some point, therefore water causes cancer.

You have to realize this is the logic being employed here. Sad that companies have to put all these "protection" labels on, but its the reality. I'm certainly swishing down my Oximega still worry free.
 
This is what happens when you let citizens just vote yes or no on a law without requiring some education on its ramifications...smh California.

"Would you like to make cancer-causing foods warn you that they cause cancer?" Well duh!

Then what you don't realize is how ridiculous the definition of cancer-causing is going to be. This is one of the reasons we make laws in legislative bodies, so people can work out the gimmicky parts of **** like this - not that that always works either :p
 
I hear what you are saying, but at the same time, I just looked at 3 types of protein that I have sitting here:

Nutraplanet Nutrapro
ON 100% Casein
Dymatize Elite XT

And I don't see any such warnings on any of those packages. And clearly those (you'd think) have more chemicals than a "green" drink.

One of the reps or guys who works for CL should know what particular ingredients (and there is more than 1 because it is plural) is triggering the need to put this warning on there.

That way I can research that ingredient and see if I think it's not a concern for me or my wife. But I find it hard to believe they would put this warning on there "just to be safe in general" because this is clearly a big red flag for the consumer. There must be some specific ingredients in there that necessitate the warning "to be safe", and not just a general overall product warning, and I just want to know which particular ingredients they are.
 
BoneDaddy said:
Your avi's have become like a daily special! lol A different, yet tasty, one everyday! :thumbsup:
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Thx boss
 
Geoforce said:
100% of people who get cancer have drank water at some point, therefore water causes cancer.

You have to realize this is the logic being employed here. Sad that companies have to put all these "protection" labels on, but its the reality. I'm certainly swishing down my Oximega still worry free.
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So every1 should have cancer...

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AaronJP1 said:
So every1 should have cancer...

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Maybe they do! What a horrible thing to try and define though, I've read so many "this food causes cancer" type warnings I've become desensitized. Seems like everything can cause cancer now so why eat or drink?

Oh, because that would kill me :)
 
Geoforce said:
Maybe they do! What a horrible thing to try and define though, I've read so many "this food causes cancer" type warnings I've become desensitized. Seems like everything can cause cancer now so why eat or drink?

Oh, because that would kill me :)
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lol
 
DCbuilder said:
I hear what you are saying, but at the same time, I just looked at 3 types of protein that I have sitting here:

Nutraplanet Nutrapro
ON 100% Casein
Dymatize Elite XT

And I don't see any such warnings on any of those packages. And clearly those (you'd think) have more chemicals than a "green" drink.

One of the reps or guys who works for CL should know what particular ingredients (and there is more than 1 because it is plural) is triggering the need to put this warning on there.

That way I can research that ingredient and see if I think it's not a concern for me or my wife. But I find it hard to believe they would put this warning on there "just to be safe in general" because this is clearly a big red flag for the consumer. There must be some specific ingredients in there that necessitate the warning "to be safe", and not just a general overall product warning, and I just want to know which particular ingredients they are.
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Someone will clarify, but these warnings are going to get more and more common.

I can say that SAN has a Prop 65 warning on their website, but not on the labels.
 
Looking through the list Invalid Link Removed I would say the only thing I can see would be in the cardiovascular complex(Nitrate donors). Number 546 "Nitrate or nitrite, ingested under conditions that result in endogenous nitrosation"
 
Thepaul7 said:
Looking through the list cdph.ca.gov/programs/cosmetics/documents/chemlist.pdf I would say the only thing I can see would be in the cardiovascular complex(Nitrate donors). Number 546 "Nitrate or nitrite, ingested under conditions that result in endogenous nitrosation"
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#191 Coffee
 
Seems most coloring agents "might cause cancer" in the state of CA.

Other stupid ones;

#265 Diesel engine exhaust
#266 Diesel fuel, marine(cause they're different)
#334 Estrogens, steroidal
#449 Marijuana smoke(yet it's a legal medical drug)
#468 Methanol(there is some in your Jack Daniels)
#505 Michler's ketons (used in dyes for pen ink)
#508 Mineral oils, untreated and mildly treated
#546 Nitrate or nitrite(hotdogs, jerky)
#594 Oral contraceptives, sequential or combined
#676 Salted fish (Chinese-style)
#684 Soots, tars, and mineral oils, untreated and mildly
treated oils and used engine oils(don't change your own oil)
#688 Stanozolol
#707 Testosterone and its ester
#732 Titanium dioxide(sunscreen)
#788 Wood dust
 
monstermash said:
Can we get a large version of the present avi? :boobies:
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You trying to fap or what?
 
BoneDaddy said:
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to AaronJP1 again."
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lol, I got u.
 
DCbuilder said:
I checked CL's Golden Gains tub that I have (actually 2 of them) and neither has this cancer warning.
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This is a new law. I am not sure why you are having a hard time understanding this. A damn peach sold at the super market technically has to have this warning so it's a moot point. More and more companies will start having these "warnings".
 
I saw a ZMA supp with that on the label once... Capsule dyes maybe? Or... it's the Magnesium! Oh ****, we're all getting cancer now.

R1balla said:
or at least cell tech
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I'm thinking NanoVapor deserves a label as well... Wait, I take that back, all muscletech products.
 
IronBusta said:
I saw a ZMA supp with that on the label once... Capsule dyes maybe? Or... it's the Magnesium! Oh ****, we're all getting cancer now.

I'm thinking NanoVapor deserves a label as well... Wait, I take that back, all muscletech products.
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Now, now....we all know Muscletech products don't DO enough to cause cancer ;)
 
PuZo said:
This is a new law. I am not sure why you are having a hard time understanding this. A damn peach sold at the super market technically has to have this warning so it's a moot point. More and more companies will start having these "warnings".
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It would not be hard for a CL rep/owner to address this issue on here and give us the fact and end this real quick.

The concerns I have are obvious:

#1 - this is a "greens" product. Full of fruits and vegetables and natural things. Even that "nitrate donor" Cardio mix they have appears to have no chemicals, the ingredients are: red beet root powder, carrot, spinach, cauliflower, broccoli, kale and parsley. None of those are chemicals and none cause cancer, so that is not why this warning is there. The warning specifically says "chemicals" (plural). I see no chemicals in the ingredients. So I'm trying to figure out why such a warning is listed.

#2 - I have their "golden gains" which is a newer product than this "greens" product. And yet the cancer warning is not on the golden gains. So your logic of it being "new law" makes no sense as I have newer products from them and no cancer warnings are listed.

#3 - As others have said, there are tons of new products purchased with all types of blends, from CL or other manufacturers, without this warning. So why of all the CL products does just this "greens" product say it has chemicals that cause cancer?

The more time that goes by without CL commenting in this thread makes me more concerned and causes me to question the company.
 
DCbuilder said:
It would not be hard for a CL rep/owner to address this issue on here and give us the fact and end this real quick.

The concerns I have are obvious:

#1 - this is a "greens" product. Full of fruits and vegetables and natural things. Even that "nitrate donor" Cardio mix they have appears to have no chemicals, the ingredients are: red beet root powder, carrot, spinach, cauliflower, broccoli, kale and parsley. None of those are chemicals and none cause cancer, so that is not why this warning is there. The warning specifically says "chemicals" (plural). I see no chemicals in the ingredients. So I'm trying to figure out why such a warning is listed.

#2 - I have their "golden gains" which is a newer product than this "greens" product. And yet the cancer warning is not on the golden gains. So your logic of it being "new law" makes no sense as I have newer products from them and no cancer warnings are listed.

#3 - As others have said, there are tons of new products purchased with all types of blends, from CL or other manufacturers, without this warning. So why of all the CL products does just this "greens" product say it has chemicals that cause cancer?

The more time that goes by without CL commenting in this thread makes me more concerned and causes me to question the company.
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I wouldn't be too concerned bro. Do you really think they would sell you something that would give you cancer? Those warning labels aren't there so companies can sell cancer causing stuff. It's there primarily to let you know that something having to do with those products along the line might be harmful. Look at all those vegetable ingredients. You don't think at some point fertilizers, pesticides, and/or fungicides weren't used on those while in the field? Now, that's not to say the supplement has any of those in it, but at some point, it came into contact with those. Otherwise it would be labeled organic. California has some weird laws and what-not. Any chance your product came from CA directly? If you don't want to use it, send it to me. I'll test it for ya. :cool:
 
BoneDaddy said:
I wouldn't be too concerned bro. Do you really think they would sell you something that would give you cancer? Those warning labels aren't there so companies can sell cancer causing stuff. It's there primarily to let you know that something having to do with those products along the line might be harmful. Look at all those vegetable ingredients. You don't think at some point fertilizers, pesticides, and/or fungicides weren't used on those while in the field? Now, that's not to say the supplement has any of those in it, but at some point, it came into contact with those. Otherwise it would be labeled organic. California has some weird laws and what-not. Any chance your product came from CA directly? If you don't want to use it, send it to me. I'll test it for ya. :cool:
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I'm not sure if it came from CA, I ordered from NP and don't know where their warehouse is located. Like you, if the issue is that a fruit may have been treated w/ pesticide or something, I could care less. But you would think a CL person could easily jump in here and say that.

Also, if that were the case, I'd imagine the label saying something along the lines of: "ingredients in this product were treated with chemicals known to cause cancer". But it actually says: "this product contains chemicals known by the state of CA to cause cancer". In other words, it's not a case of it "might" be there or it "could have" been rinsed off, it's saying that the chemicals are actually in the product that we eat. Big difference.

As far as supp companies selling something that causes cancer, to be honest, my guess is most of this crap we buy may look great now, but 20-25 years down the road we could pay for it. I don't know, just a guess.

Anyhow, having such a sketchy warning on greens is disconcerting to say the least and I just have no clue why if it's an easy or simple explanation that would not really scare any of us, why CL hasn't addressed it to put minds at ease.
 
In order to be able to sell their products in cali they must have that on the bottle. Ever look up the side effects for Vitamin C? That should come with a warning label too...
 
DCbuilder said:
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm.
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Is this a serious thread?

Because, uhm - I didn't think a human being on the entire planet actually took the "California Warning" disclaimer serious. Don't they put that disclaimer on pickles and toilet paper too? LOL.

Look man - in California ... "Up" is "Down" ... "Left" is "Right" ... and if you see that label - it's probably something good for you!
 
AForney said:
Seems most coloring agents "might cause cancer" in the state of CA.

Other stupid ones;

#265 Diesel engine exhaust
#266 Diesel fuel, marine(cause they're different)
#334 Estrogens, steroidal
#449 Marijuana smoke(yet it's a legal medical drug)
#468 Methanol(there is some in your Jack Daniels)
#505 Michler's ketons (used in dyes for pen ink)
#508 Mineral oils, untreated and mildly treated
#546 Nitrate or nitrite(hotdogs, jerky)
#594 Oral contraceptives, sequential or combined
#676 Salted fish (Chinese-style)
#684 Soots, tars, and mineral oils, untreated and mildly
treated oils and used engine oils(don't change your own oil)
#688 Stanozolol
#707 Testosterone and its ester
#732 Titanium dioxide(sunscreen)
#788 Wood dust
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I'm screwed!
 
DCbuilder said:
I have 2 containers, both received in the same shipment from NP as the greens, and neither have the cancer warnings.
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That's not surprising since GG came out before the Greens.


Your answer is here "#546 Nitrate or nitrite(hotdogs, jerky) " . Greens uses beet root which has nitrates so they have to put the warning on there. after looking at the GG nutrion facts, I notice no beet root in the formula... so no need for the warning. Both gold feast and greens have beet root and the warning.
 
monstermash said:
That's not surprising since GG came out before the Greens.


Your answer is here "#546 Nitrate or nitrite(hotdogs, jerky) " . Greens uses beet root which has nitrates so they have to put the warning on there. after looking at the GG nutrion facts, I notice no beet root in the formula... so no need for the warning. Both gold feast and greens have beet root and the warning.
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You may be on to something but why does it say "this product contains chemicals known by the state of CA to cause cancer"

Beet root isn't a chemical (that I'm aware of), and they even use the plural of it meaning more than 1. If someone says: beet root lowers blood pressure because it has a high amount of nitrates, but nitrates have been known to cause cancer. Then that's one thing, and I could care less. But saying the produce actually contains chemicals that cause cancer? I don't get it...
 
Hmmm I never even noticed that warning on label until now. I would like to know as well, waiting on response from CL.
 
DCbuilder said:
You may be on to something but why does it say "this product contains chemicals known by the state of CA to cause cancer"

Beet root isn't a chemical (that I'm aware of), and they even use the plural of it meaning more than 1. If someone says: beet root lowers blood pressure because it has a high amount of nitrates, but nitrates have been known to cause cancer. Then that's one thing, and I could care less. But saying the produce actually contains chemicals that cause cancer? I don't get it...
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It's a catch all net. And all of those stickers say chemicals instead of chemical, regardless of 1 chemical or 18 chemicals. Google, Google, Google. If you look at the list, theres MANY things on it that I bet everyone here has or currently is taken/taking right now. Beet root isn't a chemical, but it contains a substance thats on the list. Chemical is a broad word, especially when used in Prop 65.

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DCbuilder said:
You may be on to something but why does it say "this product contains chemicals known by the state of CA to cause cancer"

Beet root isn't a chemical (that I'm aware of), and they even use the plural of it meaning more than 1. If someone says: beet root lowers blood pressure because it has a high amount of nitrates, but nitrates have been known to cause cancer. Then that's one thing, and I could care less. But saying the produce actually contains chemicals that cause cancer? I don't get it...
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It seems no answer will satisfy you. It would be extremely irrational for you to accept an answer from a CL rep who will obviously say it is perfectly safe. Not bashing CL reps, I'm just saying how asinine your assertion is that you need confirmation from a CL rep who is biased.

It has already been established numerous times that these "warnings" are due to Proposition 65 in California. Call the local government office if you have any more issues.
 
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