Contest prep cycle help

[Schmicc]

So I'm about to start a contest prep cycle. My stats are 26yo 5.7 170pound 8.5% bf
Diet is in check 2200 cals a day 52% pro 30% carb 18% fat
I train each body part once a week and on Saturdays I hit what ever I feel is lacking.
Legs is all 4 sets 20 reps. All other muscles 4 set 15 reps. Iv done one cycle of test e 500mg for ten weeks. My goals for this one are get contest ready and hopefully add alittle size

I'm looking at doin test p at 300mg a week for ten weeks leading into comp at var for seven weeks at 40mg a day. I have pregnyl at 250 iu twice a week.
I have clomid and tamox for pct.

Questions.
What do u think of dosages of test and var?
Should I drop test a week early to drop water?
Not sure how much pct to run on this much test?
Should I add anything else in there?

 

[Schmicc]

Bump

 

[jaycuda]

Is this your first cycle?

300mg of Test is a good place to start. More experience, I would run it at 500mg-625mg, which is still a moderate dose.

You'll want an AI, Adex or whatever you prefer.

 

[reps4jesus]

Is this your first cycle?

300mg of Test is a good place to start. More experience, I would run it at 500mg-625mg, which is still a moderate dose.

You'll want an AI, Adex or whatever you prefer.

This^ maybe bump it to the moderate dose if 300mg isn't enough for you. But 300-400mg is a good place to asses how you react.

 

[Schmicc]

Iv done 10 weeks of test e 500mg a week. Iv got liquidex on hand. Do u think I should chuck anything else in? Mast or npp?

 

[jaycuda]

Iv done 10 weeks of test e 500mg a week. Iv got liquidex on hand. Do u think I should chuck anything else in? Mast or npp?

NPP would be a solid choice at 150-200 eod with your prop

 

[Schmicc]

Should it be run at a lower dose then test? It's pretty good for no water retention also correct?

 

[jaycuda]

Should it be run at a lower dose then test? It's pretty good for no water retention also correct?

150 NPP, 200 Prop EOD would be good. Its better than the deca version but you'd still want an AI and I'd pick up some Cialis too.

Could drop the dosage on both, but you do want more Test than NPP imo

 

[Schmicc]

What's the Cailis for? I would drop the dosages at start

 

[jaycuda]

What's the Cailis for? I would drop the dosages at start

NPP can cause ed while you're on it, higher dose of test can stop that but it doesn't always.

 

[ddemark]

bump

 

[Schmicc]

What benefits do u think I would see from adding npp?

 

[fueledpassion]

What benefits do u think I would see from adding npp?

Less muscle wasting, fuller muscles, more anabolism and probably more strength and actual tissue accrual.

 

[Yodambomb]

Less muscle wasting, fuller muscles, more anabolism and probably more strength and actual tissue accrual.

what is NPP ?

 

[fueledpassion]

what is NPP ?

Nandrolone PhenylProp

This is the same stuff that Desoxy T matched in anabolic activity before adding the fatty acid to it.

I'd go with Desoxy T acetate myself. It'll do the same as NPP and keep u dry instead.

 

[Yodambomb]

Nandrolone PhenylProp This is the same stuff that Desoxy T matched in anabolic activity before adding the fatty acid to it. I'd go with Desoxy T acetate myself. It'll do the same as NPP and keep u dry instead.

That's what I did ..., u sure they can be orally absorbed ??.. Said that it is in a sterile solution (sterile ) meaning not to be I jested ...

 

[T4MP4]

Save the npp for offseason and use mast and test... You need to eat a **** ton of carbs while on npp to take effect of it...
You are better off going with the mast.... npp will make you full and hold some water weight, regardless of what people say... It's because of the extra carb consumption... Npp or deca should be used in off season bulk.. If you are going to go with a 19 nor for contest prep, tren bro, that is a no brainer...

Prepping for a show should be about conditioning and keeping water off your body, as well as excess fat... diet, cardio, sodium intake and gear will all play a part in this...

Var dose is kind of weak as well... 80mg-100mg ed is ideal and var needs to be ran for minimum 8 weeks...

For contest prep, I would use letro, 2.5mg e3d... It will destroy most estrogen leaving you very dry and defined...

Run ECA stack... Cheap way to lose some weight and effective...

Make sure your pinning is consistent, and site where you are pinning is important... Can't give you to many more secrets, what I charge for... lol

But stay to dry compounds, not wet for contest prep...
Good luck....

 

[reps4jesus]

What's the Cailis for? I would drop the dosages at start

NPP is similar to deca, I would need cialis for that cycle

 

[Yodambomb]

NPP is similar to deca, I would need cialis for that cycle

Super hard shutdown on real gear huh ?

I'm finally stepping up and doing the trest and Desoxy T acetate soon ????

 

[Schmicc]

Maybe ill just up the var and test and just leave it at two compounds.
It's only my second cycle so don't really wana mess with tren yet?
When do I think I should drop test? 1 week out and keep var goin?

 

[T4MP4]

Why would u drop the gear? Your reasoning behind it??? Just curious???

 

[T4MP4]

Super hard shutdown on real gear huh ?

I'm finally stepping up and doing the trest and Desoxy T acetate soon ????

You will love trest... full hardness and hunger, great strength, and injections are smooth and painless... from the research i have conducted, I can say aggression significantly higher than tren... Trestolone is some potent stuff... But good stuff for putting on size with vascularity... 100mg eod to start, by day 5, kicks hard... I know someone close on it now, and they love it... I have not used it personally, so this is all observation and notes from him...

 

[Schmicc]

Drop the t early for water retention or u reckon just keep on it?

 

[T4MP4]

Let me ask you one more honest question, you think Phil heath drops his gear a couple days before olympia??? I'll answer you next post... Not trying to be an ******* if that's how this is coming off...

 

[Schmicc]

Probably not but Iv read that a lot of people drop test like a week befor and stay on what ever else they are on to drop some more water.

 

[fueledpassion]

Drop the t early for water retention or u reckon just keep on it?

Reduce dosage, u don't have to drop it altogether. Keep an AI handy too.

Most pros just reduce the dosage to something low enough to drop the water. Something like 200-300mg of T would be fine.

 

[T4MP4]

Bro, if you think most pros drop gear before a show ore lower the dose, then that is the difference between someone who gets a bid for a sandow and someone who says I earned a pro card... the true pros are on more gear days before show than any other time in their training.... They will switch to suspension and no ester test, but the dose is still high along with hgh, slin, igf, and dnp.. Doses are increased... If it's down to the last week, and you are still worried about water weight or retention, the youare not in a position to compete successfully.

That's your diet and cardio bro. You should be show ready 3 weeks out, and the last three weeks should be dialing in your diet to see what makes you appear the fullest and biggest, not worried about water weight and where to find diuretics... It's all about conditioning and body prep months out...

Btw, you should not have much in the line of water retention with lower sodium intake, you water intake should be through the roof 2 gallons a day minimum, especially on comp day, (if your planning on cutting water, you already lost the comp) because the more water you drink, the less your body holds... I've never understood why guys do this... also any extra estrogen bloat from aas, should be take care of by letrozole, and letrozole only.... letrozole is king for contest prep....

Knowing how to peak your gear though, and pining schedule, and placements of pining, that's info you have to pay for big dog...

Bodybuilding is all about making the diet, cardio, gear, and training peak while you are on stage, nor a week before, drop the compounds so you appear flat on stage... Who do you think is going to look bigger, fuller, vascular and more hard and defined... If you drop your gear, or the guy increasing his tren, mast, halo, t3, test, s4, gw, var, or winny??? I'll take the guy loaded up on aas 100% of the time.... As well the judges...
Hope this helps...

 

[fueledpassion]

Well, maybe ur right. I know the Sandow contestants run high gear and way up to the end, but I also think it depends on what gear too. I could be wrong, but when I said lowering doses, I'm referring to aromatizing compounds like Test.

Masteron? EQ? Tren? Probably wouldn't touch them at all really. They don't really cause water retention.

 

[T4MP4]

That's why you should touch them... That is what they are made for... gear and diet... npp is not a Dry as most make it out to be... so what is your plan on gear bro???

 

[Distilled Water]

Bro, if you think most pros drop gear before a show ore lower the dose, then that is the difference between someone who gets a bid for a sandow and someone who says I earned a pro card... the true pros are on more gear days before show than any other time in their training.... They will switch to suspension and no ester test, but the dose is still high along with hgh, slin, igf, and dnp.. Doses are increased... If it's down to the last week, and you are still worried about water weight or retention, the youare not in a position to compete successfully. That's your diet and cardio bro. You should be show ready 3 weeks out, and the last three weeks should be dialing in your diet to see what makes you appear the fullest and biggest, not worried about water weight and where to find diuretics... It's all about conditioning and body prep months out... Btw, you should not have much in the line of water retention with lower sodium intake, you water intake should be through the roof 2 gallons a day minimum, especially on comp day, (if your planning on cutting water, you already lost the comp) because the more water you drink, the less your body holds... I've never understood why guys do this... also any extra estrogen bloat from aas, should be take care of by letrozole, and letrozole only.... letrozole is king for contest prep.... Knowing how to peak your gear though, and pining schedule, and placements of pining, that's info you have to pay for big dog... Bodybuilding is all about making the diet, cardio, gear, and training peak while you are on stage, nor a week before, drop the compounds so you appear flat on stage... Who do you think is going to look bigger, fuller, vascular and more hard and defined... If you drop your gear, or the guy increasing his tren, mast, halo, t3, test, s4, gw, var, or winny??? I'll take the guy loaded up on aas 100% of the time.... As well the judges... Hope this helps...

:facepalm:

 

[T4MP4]

:facepalm:

Opinion?

 

[fueledpassion]

That's why you should touch them... That is what they are made for... gear and diet... npp is not a Dry as most make it out to be... so what is your plan on gear bro???

No, I meant I wouldn't touch the current dose, as in I wouldn't reduce them since they don't aromatize lol.

Geeze, I am NOT an idiot.

 

[T4MP4]

I want implying that you were, I think you misinterpreted my question...

How do you plan on staggering the gear for show?? What is your goal weight??

Are you just going to run the prop/var combo???
I wish you luck man, and sorry again if I'm coming off as an *******... Just trying to help...

 

[fueledpassion]

I want implying that you were, I think you misinterpreted my question...

How do you plan on staggering the gear for show?? What is your goal weight??

Are you just going to run the prop/var combo???
I wish you luck man, and sorry again if I'm coming off as an *******... Just trying to help...

Tapering up as I get closer. I'm a bit simple minded.

DTA Start at 300mg/wk, and taper up as high as I can stand it. Maybe throw an oral in there at the end. If I do, it'll probably be SD or DMZ. Depends on how I look. Other stuff like GHRP's, L-Carnitine Injections and AI's will also be used.

For me, anywhere from 165-175lbs and around 6% BF is my goal.

 

[Yodambomb]

Tapering up as I get closer. I'm a bit simple minded. DTA Start at 300mg/wk, and taper up as high as I can stand it. Maybe throw an oral in there at the end. If I do, it'll probably be SD or DMZ. Depends on how I look. Other stuff like GHRP's, L-Carnitine Injections and AI's will also be used. For me, anywhere from 165-175lbs and around 6% BF is my goal.

Is DTA (IM) ?

 

[fueledpassion]

Is DTA (IM) ?

Yes

 

[Yodambomb]

Yes

I knew it !! It was just confusing the way it looked but I get why it was tho .. Thank you !

 

[Schmicc]

Did my thread just get hijacked?? I planned on just running test p at 400mg per week and var 60mg per week both ten weeks. What would u suggest?

 

[Yodambomb]

Did my thread just get hijacked?? I planned on just running test p at 400mg per week and var 60mg per week both ten weeks. What would u suggest?

sorry I needed to know because I ordered it .

 

[greekgeorge]

I'm running it contest prep now at 178. Getting to around your weight and goal in 10 more weeks. DTA is incredible for recovery I'm running 700 a week it's expensive but I feel I'd start at 600 I'm gonna up it to 1000g in a few weeks

 

[Chasingtails]

I know the banned user appreciates that info 3 years later

 

[greekgeorge]

Had a