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Constantly aspirating blood

Nate Dawg

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Recently I have been having terrible luck with my glute injects. I am getting quite a bit of scar tissue build up on my glutes, and my delts have gotten quite bad also, they are completely out of the question for using as a site right now. For the past few weeks whenever I go to shoot my glutes, pretty much 99% of the time I draw blood, stick again, and if I am lucky that shot is good, but there have been times where I have had to stick 4 times until I finally was good to go.

Could there just be a build up of blood in there, and I am actually not getting blood from a vein? It just seems how unlikely that it would be that I hit a vein 4 times in a row. Then I read threads where people say they hit blood for the first time and have been cycling for a couple years, wtf lol, lately I have like an 80% chance of drawing blood!! I know its time to rotate out sites, I have terrible luck hitting nerves in my quads so they are pretty much a no-go. I have tried my left quad 8 times and hit a nerve every time, and in my right quad it is about 70% of the time I hit a nerve. Thinking about going to bis/tris and possibly lats.

What do you guys think the deal is? This is getting old REAL FAST!! I need to just get some trans test to finish this one out, but financially its not going to happen at the moment.
 
Blood outside of blood vessels doesn't last long so if you're hitting it then you're in a vessel. Honestly I would start landmarking differently. I always tend to landmark the same way so I always hit the same damn nerve in my quad, I've started thinking conciously about landmarking differently and it's proving to be less of an issue.

STU
 
i was having the same problems with glutes and delts lately. tri's works good but i wouldn't exceed 2ml's per tri. finally ventured to quads and it's been pretty painless so far. actually, as of now, they're my fav. are you sure you're injecting in the right spot in the quad nate?
 
My new favorite place is my quads. I was really scared of hitting a nerve at first.

I hit a nerve on my first try but it didn't hurt at all. It just made my quad twitch uncontrollably. So I pulled back slightly, angled it a little more, and then stuck it in deeper. No nerve, no pain, no blood in pin.


It is by far the easiest to hit. Even easier than glutes. Honestly I hate hitting delts. I don't understand how anyone can hit their own delt unless they are hitting front delt.
 
If the blood is that nice dark deep red then it is fresh. Unlikely that you are hitting "pools" of blood b/c I doubt there are any, but if there are then that should be your biggest concern.

I imagine that you may being moving the needle more than you realize due to your string of bad shots. So nerves are creeping back into play. I would suggest switching to a small needle, 25 or 27 G, and finding some new injection sites. Try using your lats, front/rear delts and or traps.

Also,you may not want to read this but you are a young guy, if you have such an abundance of scar tissue, it may be time to take a long break.
 
Thanks for the tips guys. Size I do think that I am moving around a fair amount when I stick the needle in on my glute shots, my back/obliques begin to cramp horribly as soon as I twist to stick. I put it in then have a buddy hold it and inject it b/c there is no way I am going to be able to stay in that position for more than like 10 seconds tops lol. I dont know if it is necessarily scar tissue or what, but it is definitely knotted the hell up and feels really solid. I think if I let them sit out a week or two they would loosen up quite a bit.

I got some 25g 5/8" pins that I bought for bi shots, would this be fine for tris too, or would I be better off going 23g 1"? I think traps are about the last place I will try besides calves, but to get that swelling in your traps you get from injecting a muscle does sound tempting:cheers:
 
Sturat, Beelze, and Nullifidan, I may just have to give quads another go around. I looked at spot injections and did it the same as they show in there, splitting my thigh into thirds, I would hit the first third down from my hip at an angle from the side. Just have to keep trying till I find the sweet spot I guess. Tris I think I am going to just try and hit the meaty part right above the horseshoe, I dont see the outer head being able to hold much oil. Beelze, you think 1.5ml would be too much for a first time tri shot, or should I just work up from 1ml?
 
Nate Dawg said:
Sturat, Beelze, and Nullifidan, I may just have to give quads another go around. I looked at spot injections and did it the same as they show in there, splitting my thigh into thirds, I would hit the first third down from my hip at an angle from the side. Just have to keep trying till I find the sweet spot I guess. Tris I think I am going to just try and hit the meaty part right above the horseshoe, I dont see the outer head being able to hold much oil. Beelze, you think 1.5ml would be too much for a first time tri shot, or should I just work up from 1ml?
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umm, i quad inject about 6-8" above the knee on the outside quad muscle (whatever the hell it's called, maybe outer head, i dunno). i can send you a pic if you want, doing another one tonight. either way, i've been using 25G 1" everywhere, including quads with zero problems. if you're going for bi/tri shots, i wouldn't use anything larger than a 25G 1".
 
That's crazy that you hit veins so often. I have never ever ever aspirated blood. Never!

I've been shooting my lats lately, and as of now, they are my second favorite behind glute shots. No uncomfortable 'tight' feelings and unusual soreness. Only problem is that it's more difficult to see the needle when aspirating, but it's not impossible.
 
When it comes to landmarking get a little book and write down precise directions of where you landmarked and what the results were. I tend to landmark the same way every time which in my right quad always hits the same damn nerve, by intentionally landmarking the right way then moving an inch I'm safe. So find a freckle and remember that 1 inch outside (or wherever) is a good/bad spot.

For the scar tissue I would suggest hitting a foam roller or tennis ball, it can do a lot to get rid of scar tissue. You can use it on and off cycle and it will help keep that scar tissue under control, I hear you with the whole injecting the glutes thing, that damn needle moves a lot for me too because it's so awkward.

STU
 
here try this...

Put your hand on top of you hip socket, while sitting.
Then inject in the area that your middle finger lays, maybe just a touch beyond it.
And you seem REAL damn young to have this problem, you might want to take a break from the pins for a bit.
Before you burn out the twins, know what I mean?
Good Luck dude.
 
During my cycle's i hit my upper and lower quads with no problems, and calfs. I hit delts a few at the begining, but i aspirated blood once and i didn't want to do it again.

Have you been going time on=time off?
 
Time off? what's that? Hey Nate, I'm going to echo what I said to you earlier.. ventroglute is one of my favorite spots once you get over the initial fear of hitting your greater trochanter. :D

5/8" would be fine for your tris too. I use 0.5" 27g for my biceps, triceps, lats and traps now.. I just make sure I'm not trying to put too much oil in depot that shallow... especially my triceps.. I get problems from that.. valentino like problems.... not pretty.
 
Hit my right lat tonight with 1.5ml and that went pretty well. I thought it would be really tender, but actually couldnt feel a thing.

Ability- The ratio has not been exactly optimal for the testes LOL. In the past year, it has been something like 13 weeks on, 9 off, 13 on, 8 off, now I have been on for about 15 weeks, not planning on coming off till the end of december. Probably take 12-15 weeks off after that and then hit it up again. Definitely been using the HCG, its a lifesaver, and gonna really need it coming into this pct.
 
Nate Dawg said:
The ratio has not been exactly optimal for the testes LOL. In the past year, it has been something like 13 weeks on, 9 off, 13 on, 8 off, now I have been on for about 15 weeks, not planning on coming off till the end of december. Probably take 12-15 weeks off after that and then hit it up again. Definitely been using the HCG, its a lifesaver, and gonna really need it coming into this pct.
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Nate, please, consider slowing down a bit. You have a lot of years ahead of you. Yea, hcg is helping with your testies, but what about the rest of your endocrine system. Your hypothalamous and pituitary are not 100% plastic. You could be running the risk of being on hrt at a very early age. Just my $.02, but please consider.
 
Ability- Actually after 8-9 weeks off I was feeling ok, I dont have the bloodwork to prove it and I am sure I was not back to normal yet, but I was feeling alright.

Bow- Thanks for your concern, I have been thinking about that alot lately and I do need to ease off quite a bit and take a break, in the end I know its not worth screwing my body up over.

On a side note, I tried a lat inject the other night. Went pretty well, I thought it would be pretty sensitive, but actually couldnt hardly feel a thing. The thing I should have done is taken a hot shower and massaged it afterwards, because now my lat is pretty sore and really tight. When I do things like glutes and delts they get enough movement on their own to help disperse the oil, and with lats, they just kinda sit there most of the time so I think that is why I am so tight there. Also being a new spot, the muscle isnt quite used to it yet. LOL, actually its so tight I can hardly reach around to wipe.
 
lol, yeah I got that my first Lat inject too. I couldn't sleep on that side, it was hard to put on shirts...everything... it gets better with time. :D

Did you stick the ventro yet bro?

My bro Snach had mentioned squeaks on another board.. needle squeaks... I got that for the first time in my left delt the other day. Kind of disturbing... like high frequency vibrations from the friction of sliding the needle through tough scar tissue. It was messed up.
 
LOL yeah I got the squeaks on my last cycle in my glutes, it sounded like you were sticking a needle through styrofoam! I took a really hot shower tonight and put the shower head on massage so it would have some "hit" to it, and hit my lat for about 10 min and stretched it while doing that, it helped alot, although still extremely tender, it is getting better. I am having a helluva time pulling off shirts and such as you said.
 
I usually hold it for a good second, and aspirate about every .75-1ml depending on how big the shot is, dont know if its necessary to aspirate that often, but when there is a little minor movement going on it makes me feel better knowing that everything is good when I aspirate a couple times during the shot.
 
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