CroLifter
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I decided to make this as an informative thread as I suspect that there are some guys who might be experiencing the same. I do not ask from you to either encourage me to drop testosterone or continue using, it is my personal choice after all.
Past 2.5 weeks were one hell of a ride. 250 mg test e 2x/week. I felt like a 16 year old again, libido sky high, progress in the gym, incredible pumps, feeling like a proper man after having lived with 370 ng/dl natty test etc.
Until I started having severe tightness in my chest, feeling like someone is pressing on my throat, increased heart rate ( up to 110 bpm waking me up in the middle of the night out of the blue) and increased blood pressure (140/90), despite showing NO signs of elevated e2.
I finally succumbed and went to the ER as this last night was a horror for me. Felt like someone was sitting on my chest, heart beating like crazy and nauseous.
Went to the ER, yes, heart rate was 100 bpm, blood pressure 142/90 (bear in mind i dont have any signs of water retention, i am controlling my e2 with aromasin).
ECG came out fine. Blood was drawn, and everything was fine (even my hematocrit is perfect) except my creatinine is on the higher side (even though i dont use creatine nor any supplement excluding whey protein, vitamin c and zma).
Eventually i confessed to the doc that i took 5 shots of test enanthate in the past 2.5 weeks and she was like oh well, there we go, that is your problem.
I was expecting that she is going to lecture me about detrimental effects of testosterone on the heart, prostate etc but instead, she just said this.
Testosterone, in supraphysiological doses, stimulates and accelerates many processes in the body, including the central nervous system and therefore your heart is being over-stimulated driving your blood pressure higher and also causing tightness in your chest. That, coupled with my anxiety and worry that I might have a heart attack, makes those symptoms express themselves in that manner. She also said that I must be taking something else because my creatinine is on the high side (i dont know what is causing that tbh).
Of course she also said to stop it immediately because i am going to hurt myself etc etc and I cant blame her for that, I am eventually going to hurt myself if I continue, it all comes down to weighing pros and cons and in this case, I am not willing to trade my heart and my life for the physique I want to achieve.
I hope this post will be of help to those having the same side effects as I do. Funnily enough, now that I am ok with the fact that I might stop testosterone, it seems that my symptoms are subsiding.
Maybe there is some truth to the fact that some of the more experienced guys say that 500mg is too much and not necessary for a first cycle and that good gains can be made utilizing 250-300mg, provided that diet, training and rest are on point, which they should be anyway as they are the base.
Most of us should be in this for the long run, and running high doses from the start just isn't the smartest approach. In fact, running anything might be detrimental to our long term well-being.
So, even though I am beating a dead horse, all I am saying is that seriously reconsidering our motives when it comes to this stuff should be of highest priority.
My 2 cents
Past 2.5 weeks were one hell of a ride. 250 mg test e 2x/week. I felt like a 16 year old again, libido sky high, progress in the gym, incredible pumps, feeling like a proper man after having lived with 370 ng/dl natty test etc.
Until I started having severe tightness in my chest, feeling like someone is pressing on my throat, increased heart rate ( up to 110 bpm waking me up in the middle of the night out of the blue) and increased blood pressure (140/90), despite showing NO signs of elevated e2.
I finally succumbed and went to the ER as this last night was a horror for me. Felt like someone was sitting on my chest, heart beating like crazy and nauseous.
Went to the ER, yes, heart rate was 100 bpm, blood pressure 142/90 (bear in mind i dont have any signs of water retention, i am controlling my e2 with aromasin).
ECG came out fine. Blood was drawn, and everything was fine (even my hematocrit is perfect) except my creatinine is on the higher side (even though i dont use creatine nor any supplement excluding whey protein, vitamin c and zma).
Eventually i confessed to the doc that i took 5 shots of test enanthate in the past 2.5 weeks and she was like oh well, there we go, that is your problem.
I was expecting that she is going to lecture me about detrimental effects of testosterone on the heart, prostate etc but instead, she just said this.
Testosterone, in supraphysiological doses, stimulates and accelerates many processes in the body, including the central nervous system and therefore your heart is being over-stimulated driving your blood pressure higher and also causing tightness in your chest. That, coupled with my anxiety and worry that I might have a heart attack, makes those symptoms express themselves in that manner. She also said that I must be taking something else because my creatinine is on the high side (i dont know what is causing that tbh).
Of course she also said to stop it immediately because i am going to hurt myself etc etc and I cant blame her for that, I am eventually going to hurt myself if I continue, it all comes down to weighing pros and cons and in this case, I am not willing to trade my heart and my life for the physique I want to achieve.
I hope this post will be of help to those having the same side effects as I do. Funnily enough, now that I am ok with the fact that I might stop testosterone, it seems that my symptoms are subsiding.
Maybe there is some truth to the fact that some of the more experienced guys say that 500mg is too much and not necessary for a first cycle and that good gains can be made utilizing 250-300mg, provided that diet, training and rest are on point, which they should be anyway as they are the base.
Most of us should be in this for the long run, and running high doses from the start just isn't the smartest approach. In fact, running anything might be detrimental to our long term well-being.
So, even though I am beating a dead horse, all I am saying is that seriously reconsidering our motives when it comes to this stuff should be of highest priority.
My 2 cents
