considering h-drol

injectdreams

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wanna try out ph, so im considering h-drol. just want to get everything right beforehand, input is greatly appreciated.

2bottles h-drol
AI life support or cel cycle assist (get 2 bottles?)
PCT clomid
maybe D-acid (is a test boost really necessary during the pct?) 12 days on 12 days off or how else to dose it
taurine if i run into back pumps
fish oil, OT multivitamin

w1-11 AI life support
w2 50mg h-drol (morning and 8 hrs later, with AI support 4 hrs after dose)
w3-6 75mg h-drol (50 mg 1st dose, 25mg 8 hrs later, follow with AI support 4 hrs after dose)
w7-11 PCT clomid 50mg daily.
 
Age, weight, height, training experience? Also yes daa will make pct much more effective....pct is more important then your cycle remember who cares if you gain 12lbs of muscle on cycle if you only keep 2-4 of it after pct....I'd add DAA, erase and another test booster like endosurge during pct along with Clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks
 
For DAA dose it 3g ed for the entire PCT, 6 weeks, should go two weeks longer than the clomid. Erase is an AI(aromatase inhibitor), it's to help prevent gyno by blocking your estrogen receptors. Erase is not a SERM though, as it does not selectively block estrogen receptors, it will just block any it encounters.

Also you can check out my log if you like, link in my sig. I am in PCT for Helladrol(same compound as h-drol) right now and had pretty decent results.
 
Just pick some liver longer (TUDCA) to protect your liver and you are good to go... on clomid do not exceed 50 mgs and add toco-8 by primordial... yes d aspartic acid will definately help during PCT. i would dose halodrol at 90 mgs straight if it were me. if you stack it with dermacrine you gotta love it ;) just my .02 cents, good luck!
 
yeah i do plan to get a serm no matter what. an OCT is like taking a gamble. cycle assist or life support not good enough for liver protection?
toco-8 would do what exactly?
 
toco-8 is fantastic, basically with a bottle you have 8 weeks worth, you use it the last 4 weeks on your cycle and 4 weeks in PCT... it mantains somewhat testicular function and helps with cholesterol levels (wich can be fkd up with halodrol)... also, there is evidence that toco-8 has a synergy with clomid in recovering HPTA. id definately grab some.
 
thinking

w1-11 AI life support or cel cycle assist
w2-6 75mg h-drol (morning and 8 hrs later, with AI support 4 hrs after dose)
w7-11 PCT clomid 50 mg daily.

taurine if necessary, multi, fishoil
dont think daa or erase would be necessary if i was on clomid?
 
howwedo107 said:
Age, weight, height, training experience? Also yes daa will make pct much more effective....pct is more important then your cycle remember who cares if you gain 12lbs of muscle on cycle if you only keep 2-4 of it after pct....I'd add DAA, erase and another test booster like endosurge during pct along with Clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks
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the reason for a test booster is because ph will decrease the test right?
 
You can run it however you want, but if you react anything like I did to Hdrol you'll bump it up to 100 at some point. I ran 75/75/100/100/100/100, original plan was 75/75/75/75/100/100 when I started the cycle. I didn't feel like I was "on" until I bumped up to 100, then I felt like a fkin beast.

Different people react differently though, so you can do it however you like.
 
injectdreams said:
bump. need input

might add erase + daa with clomid as pct
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That would be a good setup for an Hdrol PCT, with staples on top of that of course. Don't forget your macros as well when in PCT!
 
injectdreams said:
bump. need input

might add erase + daa with clomid as pct
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SERM
DAA
Erase
AnaBeta Elite
+ staples

That's my upcoming pct for Helladrol (hdrol). I agree with the above advice of DAA.

Using DAA with an AI such as PES Erase will make DAA much more effective. The combination of the two together will increase testosterone much higher than one or the other alone. Erase adds cortison control as well. That's a valuable thing to have during PCT if your trying to protect valuable muscle gains.
 
Natestreo said:
SERM
DAA
Erase
AnaBeta Elite
+ staples

That's my upcoming pct for Helladrol (hdrol). I agree with the above advice of DAA.

Using DAA with an AI such as PES Erase will make DAA much more effective. The combination of the two together will increase testosterone much higher than one or the other alone. Erase adds cortison control as well. That's a valuable thing to have during PCT if your trying to protect valuable muscle gains.
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Can you elaborate further on erases supposed cortisol controlling capabilities? I thought this was a myth
 
Well according to the product description on Nutraplanet:

This is what makes Erase the most innovative and synergistic compound ever! While it will naturally increase testosterone:estrogen and testosterone:cortisol ratios, it will also allow your increased testosterone levels to give maximal effects by reducing the rise in anti-myotropic cortisol. While there is no specific data on the exact Erase compound done on the 11b-HSD enzyme, it is suspected its mechanism is similar to other 7-oxygenated DHEA compounds.

But we all know how accurate claims made by manufacturers are...
 
updating potential cycle

w1-11 AI life support or cel cycle assist
w2-6 75mg h-drol (morning and 8 hrs later, with AI support 4 hrs after dose)
w7-11 PCT clomid 50 mg daily.
-Daa 3g ed
-erase 1/2/3/3/2/1
 
you should run hdrol longer than 4 weeks, it takes a while to kick in and you will still be gaining after week 4
 
oh sh1t. i'd still run it 6 weeks. hdrol took about 2 1/2 weeks to kick in for me and i gained daily after that. just short of 20 lbs my first cycle
 
Jbranken said:
Can you elaborate further on erases supposed cortisol controlling capabilities? I thought this was a myth
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It is a myth. Pes said it "may lower cortisol" meaning maybe. Im not sure on this one, but does erase pro have the stuff for cortisol control?
 
ThunderHumper said:
It is a myth. Pes said it "may lower cortisol" meaning maybe. Im not sure on this one, but does erase pro have the stuff for cortisol control?
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I researched on it for awhile some time back and never found a definitive answer. That's enough for me to disregard any claims of cortisol blocking.
 
Jbranken said:
I researched on it for awhile some time back and never found a definitive answer. That's enough for me to disregard any claims of cortisol blocking.
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I should clarify. Erase pro controls cortisol and OG Erase does not.

The B. Diffusa in EP controls cortisol.

Sorry for the confusion!
 
Natestreo said:
SERM
DAA
Erase
AnaBeta Elite
+ staples

That's my upcoming pct for Helladrol (hdrol). I agree with the above advice of DAA.

Using DAA with an AI such as PES Erase will make DAA much more effective. The combination of the two together will increase testosterone much higher than one or the other alone. Erase adds cortison control as well. That's a valuable thing to have during PCT if your trying to protect valuable muscle gains.
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If you've got all that for pct I would not use the clomid unless you really had to. But that's just me ...
 
Run it 6 weeks man. Don't worry about toxicity, it's very mild, I've heard of some even running it 8 weeks.
 
injectdreams said:
60 caps in 1 bottle of haloplex, etc thats not hellapro

120 for 2 bottles
3 a day = 40 day supply
40/7 (7 days in a week) = 5.71 so almost 6 week full supply
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Oh, you said 5.71 days first not weeks. Got it.

F u just buy hella, u don't need to worry bout it. It comes with 180 caps
 
Yeah I think Helladrol is the best value out there for Halodrol products. I still have about 25 caps left after running 75/75/100/100/100/100.
 
The only bad sides I had were insane back pumps after about two weeks on 100(had them before that but not that bad), and a complete loss of libido the last two weeks, which lasted a couple weeks into PCT. I gained a total of 13lbs, and have held 9lbs right now I'm in my 4th week of PCT. Next cycle I'm definitely gonna run fadogia root(HCGenerate) to keep libido.
 
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