what "kind" of steroid is 4 hydroxy testosterone ? is it a cutting agent or more of a bulking ? I've heard its close to the aas clostebol (ive never heard of it) anyone can give me more info on this compound how to use it benefits/sides
It has been used alone by a couple of guys when it came out on the market.it's not to be used on it's own.
Uhm... I beg to disagree. 4oht has some anabolic properties of his own. It counters water retention and estrogens. Formestante is only an anti-e.I dig it mixed with 4AD/1T in a transdermal but it's just too expensive for what it does IMO. Formestane is a cheaper ancillary alternative, for that matter too. If I had unlimited funds, though, I'd be all over it.
uhm... m4oht does exist already and its a steroid.thanks for the infos I think they should think about a methyl version of 4OHT to get its full potential
Its a bit pointless to ask cause its hard to find it.... anyway, doses are about 30% higher than m4ohn.oh right I forgot about this one I haven't read too much about it what are the required daily dosages for this methyl ?
no doubt it could be used on it's own, but it'd be a waste IMHO. anabolic benefits less than oral 19nor in my experience. plus, it's not very stable in solution if you want to pin it; youd have to shoot ~10ml a week of it to notice anabolic effects. it just isn't practical as a stand alone.It has been used alone by a couple of guys when it came out on the market.
Me, if at the end of the cycle i'm satisfied with the results.anyone buying 4oht before the ban?
Good luck and keep us postedMe, if at the end of the cycle i'm satisfied with the results.
Well, I'm not too happy currently. My gains stopped, altough in the mirror i do look a bit fuller... strange, i didnt change anything in training and diet in the last few days. But I feel its helping me on recovery (much less soreness and shorter lasting), so i'm going to hit the gym one day more from this week, hoping this helps the gains.Good luck and keep us posted
The point is that i DID start gaining at day 10-11, but then its 2 days i'm stuck at a few hg less than the max i reached and this without skipping meals or training.It's been only 2 weeks, Syr, give it a little bit more time you'll start gaining.
What dose you running again?
Lean Bulking/body recomp. Stacked with 1,4add.About m4oht. Are you gonna use it for bulking or cutting? I want to use it for bulking by itself and would be very interested to see what kind of results I can get.(or you if you'll start before me)
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