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Condition of Proviron

supadupastar

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I just received my proviron and was kind of let down by its condition. The color and chipped edges makes me reluctant to using it. Doesnt look that clean to me. What you guys think?

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I think it looks like a pressed e-pill. Jesus.

I'm struggling to think what normal effects could produce the chips and mottled color. Basically the coloring makes it look like it was pressed in a simple machine out of raw material inadequately mixed with the fillers. I which then crumbled a bit during packing or even when being taken out of the press.

I would be as sketched out as you are man. Dunno if I would take it.
 
I think it looks like a pressed e-pill. Jesus.

I'm struggling to think what normal effects could produce the chips and mottled color. Basically the coloring makes it look like it was pressed in a simple machine out of raw material inadequately mixed with the fillers. I which then crumbled a bit during packing or even when being taken out of the press.

I would be as sketched out as you are man. Dunno if I would take it.

Ive gotten a few different orals from this company and they all look plain white or slightly yellowish. Furthermore, its a reputable company and i got it straight from them.. quality and potency has always been good so far. But the way the proviron looks really questions the quality.

Maybe someone has ordered the same and confirm it looks like that or not?
 
Yeah you may have been good with them, and they might continue to be good but I would at least hit them up and be like wtf is this?

Once I got an RC chem and it was a suspension so I thought something was wrong. Just turned out to be that substance, maybe this is how thier stuff looks? Have you ever gotten this particular one from them?
 
Yeah you may have been good with them, and they might continue to be good but I would at least hit them up and be like wtf is this?

Once I got an RC chem and it was a suspension so I thought something was wrong. Just turned out to be that substance, maybe this is how thier stuff looks? Have you ever gotten this particular one from them?

Yea, ive sent them a message both on the forum and on the site.. lets see what they have to say.

Never had Proviron from them, thats why i cant judge. Will keep this updated as i get info (or not).
 
Just went and looked at some old dance safe pics of pills and a good amount look like that, speckled with the actual goods improperly mixed, heterogeneous.

Mixing some things and packing them can be a problem if you don't know exactly what you're doing and you're not using fillers that are correct for the chemical. I think the goods here are some type of an oil, or not very soluable.

So what these guys might do is they take a specific amount of filler and mix it together with the goods ... recalculate and then add the remaining filler to bring it to the concentration per gram they want. The only other reason I can think of is multiple ingredients, like other chems. But these are just one thing.

what you might end up with is filler that is mixed with a large quantity of the oil and filler that was mixed with that mix - creating different colored areas based on the amount of filler versus the amount of chemical.

Also the imprint is imperfect across all of the different tablets. it looks like when they were pressed some of the tablets took the imprint better than others. Maybe the filler is not packable or being something that crumbles afterwards easily, or the moisture.

And I had missed the condensation initially. That could be a wet tab actually put in at the time of packing.

So perhaps not all the solvents were evaporated, and some hold some water with them. Perhaps the filler itself was holding moisture. If there's no tamper on the back evident then I bet that's just a high moisture pill, packaged up and then condensating.

Basically I think we can all agree it looks like total **** Manufacturing. it really really looks like a hand pressed basement E pill. Some guy with a visor on listening to Armin Van Buren named "skip" was creating these badboys, lol.

Now all of that's not to say that there's anything wrong with it. The pill it could be totally fine and just have been made with crappy packing methods crappy mixing methods and apparently maybe not evaporated all the way.

But equally do you really want to trust someone who has methods that bad with the packing of the pill with the actual mixing measuring and chemical production of the material inside? It's all going inside you after all.

The more I think of this the more I think how silly my hesitation is and also how justified at the same time. For instance I'll take RC liquids and never think about it, when they can have anything in it and it's just not aparent because they're uniform and clear.

That's strikes me as a double standard I'm guilty of. A stupid assumption that I make all the time - however when I see one of these pills I think "holy crap that looks like junk and what kind of ammature idiot put that together". But that's only because I can see the issue on the tabs. And again the visual representation does not mean that it's actually crap, or bad for you, it just makes you lean that way. Could be that the production method for this particular chem is difficult to pack without some stuff your average internet lab just can't hack.

I dunno it's really made me think about the inability of the user here to ever really know what they're taking, and the ease at which visual representation can steer your thinking.
 
I hear you bro! Good thoughts written out, thanks for sharing!

Current situation, the owner actually replied asking for more pictures and already stating that proviron has a brownish color. I asked kindly another source to confirm what color the proviron from the same company has and was told its pure white. Done some research and proviron raw is also white.

Looking forward to his response and how he will back it up or deny this incident. Hope im offered some kind of reimbursement cause theres no way im taking them.
 
These look like someone took our "local brand" of gear and put it into blister packs. Our guy literally got his tablet press and binders/other inerts from someone who used to press ecstasy tabs before the supply of good MDMA dried up.

If you want my opinion, they do look like they were wet, or more specifically it looks like they used glycerol mono as a binder which had been wet. I can't say if it was before or after they were pressed.

This isn't uncommon to have different tabs each time from the same UGLs as a lot of them have contract suppliers who ship pills for them. A buddy gets t-bol sent because local guy doesn't have it, I've seen no less than three completely different tabs.

I have also heard of stories of API showing up damp from China from less-profesaional sources. Usually people dry it out before trying to use it if the source tells them to f off when they ask for a replacement.
 
I hear you bro! Good thoughts written out, thanks for sharing!

Current situation, the owner actually replied asking for more pictures and already stating that proviron has a brownish color. I asked kindly another source to confirm what color the proviron from the same company has and was told its pure white. Done some research and proviron raw is also white.

Looking forward to his response and how he will back it up or deny this incident. Hope im offered some kind of reimbursement cause theres no way im taking them.

There's way more brown than Proviron in those tablets, anyway. What could there possibly be? 25 or 50mg? There's like 4-5 times that much material in each tab. That said, Proviron is cheap to sell and even cheaper and easier to make. Nobody messes up the API so bad it's that dark tan.

Also, if they had that color before they pressed them there's no way anyone wouldn't add dye to the tabs to cover it up if they were going to be unscrupulous and run it. This probably happened after the tabs were made. (I know I said either before - still waking up in this time zone.)
 
These look like someone took our "local brand" of gear and put it into blister packs. Our guy literally got his tablet press and binders/other inerts from someone who used to press ecstasy tabs before the supply of good MDMA dried up.

If you want my opinion, they do look like they were wet, or more specifically it looks like they used glycerol mono as a binder which had been wet. I can't say if it was before or after they were pressed.

This isn't uncommon to have different tabs each time from the same UGLs as a lot of them have contract suppliers who ship pills for them. A buddy gets t-bol sent because local guy doesn't have it, I've seen no less than three completely different tabs.

I have also heard of stories of API showing up damp from China from less-profesaional sources. Usually people dry it out before trying to use it if the source tells them to f off when they ask for a replacement.

Im sure every product isnt 100% the same, but there has to be some sort of quality standard.. especially with a big company like this. All other products i got from them are of excellent quality and potency. Dunno how this pack got through the quality check knowing that their other proviron are white in color.
 
There's way more brown than Proviron in those tablets, anyway. What could there possibly be? 25 or 50mg? There's like 4-5 times that much material in each tab. That said, Proviron is cheap to sell and even cheaper and easier to make. Nobody messes up the API so bad it's that dark tan.

Also, if they had that color before they pressed them there's no way anyone wouldn't add dye to the tabs to cover it up if they were going to be unscrupulous and run it. This probably happened after the tabs were made. (I know I said either before - still waking up in this time zone.)

Those are supposedly 50mg proviron tabs.

Either way, im glad everyone so far thinks there's something fishy about them tabs. Waiting for final feedback of the owner..
 
Im sure every product isnt 100% the same, but there has to be some sort of quality standard.. especially with a big company like this. All other products i got from them are of excellent quality and potency. Dunno how this pack got through the quality check knowing that their other proviron are white in color.

Because they likely came from different "manufacturers" who package in the packages given to them by your guy. The guy with the white ones has likely never met the guy who tried to pass off these things. Just a hunch from how I've seen the industry work. Very few UGLs have tablet presses.

Those are supposedly 50mg proviron tabs.

Either way, im glad everyone so far thinks there's something fishy about them tabs. Waiting for final feedback of the owner..

Yeah, definitely fishy. Looks like the excipient or binder took on water and was dried, or a very small amount got into the blister pack and was 100% absorbed. A lot of these binders are very hydroscopic and will take on moisture quickly and completely. This is the reason so many tablets come in (supposedly) sealed blisters or with dessicant packs in the bottle.
 
So i got reply and they will apparently send me a new pack of proviron on my next order. Well, i havent gotten a code or anything.. so lets see if they will remember me next time i order, but I'll give them one more shot.

He states that theres no risk of taking the tabs and that they probably just came from an older batch. The active substance shouldn't be affected.

Seriously, I dont care if the active substance is active or not. Not trying to be an ass about it, but come on, I paid full price for something and i got a crap blister of old proviron. This company stands for quality so they should really deliver quality products. Just my 2 cents.
 
If you got it directly from the source, it's legit. They've been having counterfeit issues with other sites selling their brand cheaper. I only use this company for my gear at this point. Direct from the site, legit. Hands down
 
I don't recognize the brand, but if someone wants to clue me in on the company via PM I can offer an opinion with that in mind.

It is true that these molecules are not typically degraded by moisture. I always just wonder what the hell might be growing in things with moisture. I also both wash and then swab my injection sites in direct succession, so sometimes I'm maybe a bit neurotic.
 
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