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Day 12 of an 8 week run of 100mg Tren ace eod + 200mg TRT per week. Im on TRT for life. Will i need to add any additional ancillaries when i come off? A lot of info out there about dudes PCT'ing and feeling like **** with raisin sized nuts, but i dont need to PCT since im lifer of TRT and my nuts only shrunk about 25 % even after being on TRT for quite some time. . WIll i be good to just continue on 'cruising' at my TRT dose after my last shot? Any steps or supps i need to take or add after my last shot?
Anyone have experience with going back to strict crusie after tren cycle?
Any info is appreciated on having the smoothest transition after my last shot of tren.

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Back to trt once cycle is over. I don’t understand the overthinking here
I appreciate the response man. Ive been watching a lot of info on youtube and reading on other forums about dudes dicks discontinuing to work after 8+ weeks of tren, feeling like **** etc . I don't need to PCT so i assumed continuing on my TRT would keep things working in proper functioning order. My girls loves the tren obelisk i maintain daily and i dont want to run into ed issues post tren cycle. Just wanted to hear from other guys who have ran tren cycles then went straight into cruising.
 
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Back to trt once cycle is over. I don’t understand the overthinking here
yeah OP I’m with Math here, your way over thinking this.

I ran 8 weeks tren ace last summer with test (i cruise and blast), simply dropped back to my cruise dose of 160mg test after the 8 weeks. No issues at all.

Obviously ED issues can show up but that’s probably more likely on cycle, deca which is also a 19nor is well known for it but tren not so much. You need to keep a little eye on prolactin with tren (caber on hand always wise) and that can cause a bit of lactation (maybe your girl will be into that? 🤷) but that’s really the main thing to watch.

I mean any messing with hormones has the scope to mess with your junk and libido - theres individual response variations so no one can anything for sure but generally speaking you are far less likely to have issues than guys pct’ing (who are basically dropping to **** all test for a period and massive hormone swings).

just enjoy the tren ride, get strong, get lean, pound the ass off your misses at every chance you get and when she’s had enough get her sister round (cause on tren you ain’t gonna stop 😜😜)
 
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Day 12 of an 8 week run of 100mg Tren ace eod + 200mg TRT per week. Im on TRT for life. Will i need to add any additional ancillaries when i come off? A lot of info out there about dudes PCT'ing and feeling like **** with raisin sized nuts, but i dont need to PCT since im lifer of TRT and my nuts only shrunk about 25 % even after being on TRT for quite some time. . WIll i be good to just continue on 'cruising' at my TRT dose after my last shot? Any steps or supps i need to take or add after my last shot?
Anyone have experience with going back to strict crusie after tren cycle?
Any info is appreciated on having the smoothest transition after my last shot of tren.

Thanks dudes. Flame me if you feel so.
Just go right back to your cruise dose dude. There shouldn’t be any rebound of anything. You’d think you’d feel worse going from Tren and whatever else to just Test but usually after stopping the Tren abruptly after a couple months, I end up feeling way better within a week because the normal spectrum of human emotions comes back. You’ll be fine.
 

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Have cialis ready in case you experience dick issues. You could also add 50mg's daily of proviron after your last tren shot. But still have cialis on hand.
 
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Just go right back to your cruise dose dude. There shouldn’t be any rebound of anything. You’d think you’d feel worse going from Tren and whatever else to just Test but usually after stopping the Tren abruptly after a couple months, I end up feeling way better within a week because the normal spectrum of human emotions comes back. You’ll be fine.
for sure I feel better when I stop a blast and revert back to a cruise dose. Overloading the body is hard, it’s fun to see progress on weights etc but it takes it toll for sure when your constantly pushing the body to do things outside it’s natural parameters (especially if there’s an oral involved)
 

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for sure I feel better when I stop a blast and revert back to a cruise dose. Overloading the body is hard, it’s fun to see progress on weights etc but it takes it toll for sure when your constantly pushing the body to do things outside it’s natural parameters (especially if there’s an oral involved)
Hey man i appreciate the insight! Im thinking of upping my tren to 100mg ED from where im at now which is 100mg EOD. My Test is at 200mg per week. Would you suggest i up the test to 400mgs or keep it at 200mgs with the increased tren?
 
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Hey man i appreciate the insight! Im thinking of upping my tren to 100mg ED from where im at now which is 100mg EOD. My Test is at 200mg per week. Would you suggest i up the test to 400mgs or keep it at 200mgs with the increased tren?
there’s definitely some individual response here bro. I personally like a 1:1 ratio with tren (and deca) from my test. I don’t get any bad sides doing that and I enjoy the run.

I think I recall some other guys preferring to run tren higher than the test though so 🤷

for me I like to drive that estrogen pathway from the test and between 400 and 600 I use very little ai and my estrogen comes in where I want it (just above range)

does kinda depend on goals as well. I run lower doses on a cut for example
 
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Hey man i appreciate the insight! Im thinking of upping my tren to 100mg ED from where im at now which is 100mg EOD. My Test is at 200mg per week. Would you suggest i up the test to 400mgs or keep it at 200mgs with the increased tren?
I’d recommend just keeping the Test the same.

1) The Test isn’t doing the heavy lifting out of those two compounds anyway
2) I think you’d have more likelihood of side effects upping the Test. In my opinion, most of the side effects from Tren don’t come from the Tren itself, but moreso the other compounds you’re running with it that amplify it. That or just running too much Tren.

I don’t know your experience with Tren so don’t take this as a lecture or anything, just trying to help a bro out. If you multiply the Tren dose by 3 (which is an accurate picture of the anabolic/androgenic potential of Tren compared to Test), bumping the Tren up to 100mg/ED + 400 Test = technically 2500mg of total androgens per week. Personally, I don’t think there’s any need to ever go above 350 or 400 with Tren. You’re just asking for it at that point and if your goal is to put on muscle, you’re going to have a really hard time doing that with that much Tren. You don’t wanna end up feeling like **** and actually start losing weight because you can’t enjoy training or eat enough to feed that dose of Tren without it just burning through everything (including potential muscle tissue)..

I think you’d have a better time keeping the Test the same and either upping the Tren to 350/week and adding a light oral/SARM or just adding a light oral/SARM to what you’re running right now. Just my experience.
 

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I’d recommend just keeping the Test the same.

1) The Test isn’t doing the heavy lifting out of those two compounds anyway
2) I think you’d have more likelihood of side effects upping the Test. In my opinion, most of the side effects from Tren don’t come from the Tren itself, but moreso the other compounds you’re running with it that amplify it. That or just running too much Tren.

I don’t know your experience with Tren so don’t take this as a lecture or anything, just trying to help a bro out. If you multiply the Tren dose by 3 (which is an accurate picture of the anabolic/androgenic potential of Tren compared to Test), bumping the Tren up to 100mg/ED + 400 Test = technically 2500mg of total androgens per week. Personally, I don’t think there’s any need to ever go above 350 or 400 with Tren. You’re just asking for it at that point and if your goal is to put on muscle, you’re going to have a really hard time doing that with that much Tren. You don’t wanna end up feeling like **** and actually start losing weight because you can’t enjoy training or eat enough to feed that dose of Tren without it just burning through everything (including potential muscle tissue)..

I think you’d have a better time keeping the Test the same and either upping the Tren to 350/week and adding a light oral/SARM or just adding a light oral/SARM to what you’re running right now. Just my experience.
I really appreciate the help bro! This is my first run with tren. I'm a couple weeks in and definitely have a few sides: ie horny as hell thinking about fucking things i usually wouldn't, agitated easier. night sweats only once and i wake up to piss 2x a night and have a hard time falling back to sleep even with benadryl. TBH these sides aren't that bad and i can deal with them for now. Strength is going up in the gym slowly and my recovery is good with PPL split twice a week (6 days a week).
I'm about 12-13 % body fat right now and i added the tren to help me lean me out while eating at a slight deficit.
Im not fat at all and I want my obliques looking like wings. I feel like i've got a hold on the tren sides and my reactions/agitation so im considering upping it to 100mg ED and if **** gets loony ill just back it off to 50mg ed, back down to 100mg eod or stop it all together. Great point about the total amount of androgens. I was also thinking that with the increase to 100mg ed that if i went slightly above maintenance calories that i could grow some tissue and lose fat simultaneously.
 
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I really appreciate the help bro! This is my first run with tren. I'm a couple weeks in and definitely have a few sides: ie horny as hell thinking about fucking things i usually wouldn't, agitated easier. night sweats only once and i wake up to piss 2x a night and have a hard time falling back to sleep even with benadryl. TBH these sides aren't that bad and i can deal with them for now. Strength is going up in the gym slowly and my recovery is good with PPL split twice a week (6 days a week).
I'm about 12-13 % body fat right now and i added the tren to help me lean me out while eating at a slight deficit.
Im not fat at all and I want my obliques looking like wings. I feel like i've got a hold on the tren sides and my reactions/agitation so im considering upping it to 100mg ED and if **** gets loony ill just back it off to 50mg ed, back down to 100mg eod or stop it all together. Great point about the total amount of androgens. I was also thinking that with the increase to 100mg ed that if i went slightly above maintenance calories that i could grow some tissue and lose fat simultaneously.
on a cut there’s probably no benefit in upping the dose bro, I cut on the TTM stack last summer with tren at 350 and it was spot on for me.

the sleep was the worst side imo, mainly as we know lack of sleep can directly influence body comp. at 6 hours a night I was just about ok with it but upping the dose I am sure will worsen that.

plus even people I know who talk about running 1g plus test and similar doses of deca etc (ie people who push 2g plus on a blast don’t ever seem to go above 600-700 on tren which tells me something.

body comp changes were spot on - strength sustained a level I’d only hit before around 12kg heavier at the end of the cut.

just from everything you’ve said 100eod seems plenty for the goals bro, wouldn’t want to see you ruin a good run with crazy ass sides
 
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I really appreciate the help bro! This is my first run with tren. I'm a couple weeks in and definitely have a few sides: ie horny as hell thinking about fucking things i usually wouldn't, agitated easier. night sweats only once and i wake up to piss 2x a night and have a hard time falling back to sleep even with benadryl. TBH these sides aren't that bad and i can deal with them for now. Strength is going up in the gym slowly and my recovery is good with PPL split twice a week (6 days a week).
I'm about 12-13 % body fat right now and i added the tren to help me lean me out while eating at a slight deficit.
Im not fat at all and I want my obliques looking like wings. I feel like i've got a hold on the tren sides and my reactions/agitation so im considering upping it to 100mg ED and if **** gets loony ill just back it off to 50mg ed, back down to 100mg eod or stop it all together. Great point about the total amount of androgens. I was also thinking that with the increase to 100mg ed that if i went slightly above maintenance calories that i could grow some tissue and lose fat simultaneously.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do man. Everybody’s gotta experiment and go a little overboard with this stuff every now and then to figure out their limits are. My advice with anything (but especially Tren) would be just try to get the most you can out of as little as possible. There’s no need to up the dose until you’re at least a month in anyway. You feel the Tren and see the visual changes and feel the strength way before then, but in the 4th week you really see how much it’s actually changing your body. Most of the time the frequent need to up the dose with anything, in my experience, is just in my head. It’s just my addictive behavior.
 

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