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Clomid/testim vs Anabolics

Crowned

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I was diagnosed with low testoserone 4 months ago. My level was 212 ng/dl. My doctor put me on testim 1% at one tube a day, then retested 2months later it was 132 ng/dl, with my FSH 0.7 and LH 0.2 . The doctor then put me on clomid at 50 mg a day with a tube of testim. Now my levels are 2837 ng/dl with a 290-847 ng/dl range and 25.3 for FSH. I was wondering if clomid could be used instead of steriods? What are they testostrone levels of something taking them? Also during this time period I have gained 12 lbs and want to loose it. My doctor said that when the testoseterone levels are to high it can cause weight gain, what level does it cause wieght gain though?
 
I thought I read once where Matrix said he had seen long-term Clomid use downregulate the HPTA.

I just don't think it's a good idea for longer than 6 weeks or so at a low dose. Now, you can find instances where Doc's prescribed it for a year, a couple years - I found one claim of seven years ...

And - it's also prescribed to men with fertility issues due to it's increase in FSH ... so I assume they use it for long durations.

EDIT: On the weight gain - there's a solution to that in diet - which is a lot easier than trying to guess at what level your testosterone starts to cause you to gain weight. Some very skinny guys have sky-high testosterone.

Test also helps you stay LEAN.
 
standon23 said:
why are you complaining!
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I am complaing because I gained 12 lbs, and my pants are much tighter then they were a couple months ago. I used to weigh around 155-160, which was a average for 10 years. Now I am almost 190 lbs and most of my clothes either no longer fits me or it is very tight. I have been excersing 4-5 days a week and eatting much healthier then before.
 
I think it is a combo of both, but mostly muscle. I would say 80%muscle and 20% fat. I noticed my jeans are tigher on the waist, so I think that must be fat gain.
 
I almost want to smack you right now. I'd be leaping over effing mountains if my test was at three freaking thousand.
 
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