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clenbuteral for women

max37

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so I have a question on this "clenbuteral" as I have no experience with this substance personally but I have researched a bit and wondered if you guys might provide some sound advice from those of you with personal experience.
. So a woman I know (family friend) at age 62 has just recently started working out again (mostly cardio) in an attempt to lose weight. She is probably 40pounds overweight considering her frame. She lost about 15-20 pounds about 8 months ago dieting, and cardio but gained it back.
. So she told me last week she intended to go to a clinic and get so diet pills (phentermine) to help with her appetite and perhaps speed up her metabolism. I ran across this "clenbuterol" and it sounds on paper to be much more effective than say a substance like "phentermine.". I wondered what your thoughts might be in administration of such a substance for a 62 year old woman looking to lose weight?

Any and all information is appreciated...
 
Well I'm not sick but maybe my question could be looked at as a joke. I did a little research k-roid, I mean "k-pen" and yeah probably not the best idea. My only questioning was "phentermine" vs "clenbuteral" concerning appetite suppression, and metabolism enhancement. Clenbuteral being classified as a stimulant works very different though as I have come to understand, as its main action is one of a "thermogenic.". Best only used if you have some stubborn fact and are already in shape and are looking for that edge. It will not melt away fat like some sort of miracle drug.

Thank you 619sss for input,

Intellectual response with your answer there "k pen" �� thanks alot.
 
You're going to get her killed....
 
Yeah, seems to be a harsh substance now that I've taken in more reading on it and understand it a little better. Not to mention it is a veterinary substance. It must have a significantly more profound effect on the cardiovascular system than I previously expected, even in small amounts, not to mention messing with your bodies thermostat. If it's that strong my thoughts might even go as far as to say it does have that potential to be permanently detrimental to the later point made on "thermogenics" concerning the bodies own maintenance system. Not just in the case of taking it longer than recommended in the body building realm.
The point you guys are trying to make I suppose is only take this product if you are maybe not so much relatively young, but in shape down the line, a serious body building/sculpting enthusiasts, and your body is used to the pounding one would experience in this sport. "Healthy" so to speak.

Thank you for your input "Yates84" You put it right to the point.
 
Yeah clenbuterol for a woman her age is very dangerous , it allready has a negative effect on the heart. Dieting and exercise is the best thing for her . If she gained her weight back it is either because she has stopped dieting , exercising , or there is an underlying problem . Ask her when the last time she had her thyroid levels checked .
 
You know that was the first thing I thought of "Thyroid activity" but here is the thing. She took radioactive iodine for a medical therapy which destroyed her thyroid. That was in 1987. So she takes "Synthroid" T4 to replace. It very well may be she needs to up the dosage. What about I suggesting she ask her doc about switching to T3, maybe more effective?
 
max37 said:
You know that was the first thing I thought of "Thyroid activity" but here is the thing. She took radioactive iodine for a medical therapy which destroyed her thyroid. That was in 1987. So she takes "Synthroid" T4 to replace. It very well may be she needs to up the dosage. What about I suggesting she ask her doc about switching to T3, maybe more effective?
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I think a doctor's recommendation are the way to go here, you don't want to suggest anything to this woman because it could directly effect her health and that would be on you.
 
I'm not even going to try to show you a hint of response here to your little comments lol. Based on the name calling, you're probably 18 years old or younger I'm guessing. Try to take a step back and realize you could kill her with your advising.

Bottom line, this lady needs diet and exercise, not pharmaceutical drugs. For you to not even realize that those things are imperative to be in place before any sort of supplementing pharma or not, is worth a damn, speaks enough for the fact you shouldn't be advising this woman on such matters. You literally can get her killed. These pharmas are not supplements or "fat burners"

As mentioned please refer her to a doctor for further advising, especially when it comes to these pharmaceutical drugs.
 
You are right "K pem." I acted like a juvenile in that comment. My wife was amping me up, straight out bed! Im gonna fire her ass straight out my second story window when i get home! Lol.. Im only joking! I wrote that before I had time to think. My apologies.

. For the T3 though that's what I meant, her going to the doc to test her levels and asking if maybe T3 would be more proficient as a medication. I would never put someone's well being, or health at risk. That's negligence to say the least.

. T3 does seem to be the superior though in that respect, yeah?
 
Not a problem man, much appreciated and apology accepted. I could have been more helpful but as you can see in the severity of the situation kinda needed to get my point across.

Now bare with me as I'm no endrocrinologist and have a very crude understanding but for all intensive purposes I think this will suffice.

To answer your question yes. T3 is the more active thyroid hormone responsible for increases in metabolism. However it is something like a tenth of the concentration circulating in the blood as T4. Provided she is hypothyroidic and diagnosed as such I assume her doctor perscribed her T4 to reflect her specific condition. Granted more than likely she probably has decreased TSH or TRH or both resulting in decreased output of thyroid hormones in general. Regardless, Either she isn't producing enough T4, therefore turnover to T3 is low. Or she isn't converting the T4 to T3 efficiently in which case obviously she would need to be perscribed or treated another way. Or a montage of other issues that can happen between production of the T3/T4 via TSH and actual binding of the thyroid hormones to target tissues THRs. I'm no physician so I can't speak on behalf of one but I would assume he/she perscribed the T4 rather than T3 in order to further pinpoint her problem(if T3 levels remain low when dosing exogenous T4 then obviously she isn't converting correctly). But she could have none of the above as a problem and instead have a transport issue or issue at the receptor site or hell anything.

The point is as you can see there are far too many possibilities to be certain. I think I speak for all of us here that none of our words will trump that of an endrocrinologist, no matter how good our understanding of the functions. By all means have her ask about T3 as a treatment option, just don't think doing anything on your own is wise. Stated as a precaution. Consult her physician.
 
Nice answer K_pem, thank you for taking the time to explain that, you're a good man. Yeah I've never had an extremely hard time cutting and I know those substances can be tricky, as I've never ventured into that realm of pharmacology so definitely that's some solid information I will pass on. Good looking out my friend.
 
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