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MGSDP

MGSDP

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so ive been on the ckd for a while now and have lost quite an amount of weight. my concern is i know its because i have been practically starving myself, not because i choose to. just because im having a tough time figuring out a viable diet.

any ckd diet you guys follow?
something i can use as a guideline?

my diet as of today was as follows.


morning:
5 egg whites

snack:
5 slices ham
cap of olive oil

lunch:
whole chicken breast

dinner:
chicken with some veggies


now before you critique please be aware that i know this is very few calories but i cant seem to find a ckd diet plan anywhere! and i really dont want to lose my weight loss by keeping up this diet.

please even any foods to recommend also would be helpful thanks!
 
MGSDP
I know the pain your feeling as I realized that most of the food I see on a daily basis have tons of carbs in them.

Best things I have found is make sure you take in enough EFA's the cheap 1000mg pills are great for this.
I also like to eat tuna fish as meal fillers. If you add regular Mayonnaise into it it is the perfect mix of fat/protein.
If your looking for more good food to eat on this diet try a google search for: Cyclical Ketogenic Diet plans

Overall I really like this diet though, the food is still pretty good and once your body adjusts to burning ketones for fuel it is so much easier. The main reason I liek this is of course for it's fat burning properties and I feel once you have burned off the fat and you carefully watch your diet you can fully bring carbs back into play and still keep a very lean body.

best of luck!
 
MGSDP said:
so ive been on the ckd for a while now and have lost quite an amount of weight. my concern is i know its because i have been practically starving myself, not because i choose to. just because im having a tough time figuring out a viable diet.

any ckd diet you guys follow?
something i can use as a guideline?

my diet as of today was as follows.


morning:
5 egg whites

snack:
5 slices ham
cap of olive oil

lunch:
whole chicken breast

dinner:
chicken with some veggies


now before you critique please be aware that i know this is very few calories but i cant seem to find a ckd diet plan anywhere! and i really dont want to lose my weight loss by keeping up this diet.

please even any foods to recommend also would be helpful thanks!
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Why egg whites? You need a lot of fat on this diet. I'd go for whole eggs. Also, chicken breasts are almost fat free. You need some fats with every meal. Maybe add some nuts and steak in there? Heres what I had yesterday.

Meal 1
2 pieces extra thick bacon
4 raw eggs (yum)

Meal 2 (PWO)
2 Scoops Optimum Whey
2 tbsp Oil

Meal 3
2 chicken thighs
1 cup brocoli

Meal 4
2 Scoops Optimum Casein
2 oz Pecans/Walnuts

Meal 5
2 chicken thighs
1 cup brocoli

Meal 6
3 celery stalks
2 tbsp peanut butter

Meal 7
2 chicken thighs

Meal 8
1 Scoops Optimum Casein
2 eggs
2 tbsp heavy cream

grams calories %total
Total 3453
Protein 344 1376 39.85%
Carbs 40 160 4.63%
Fiber 19 76 2.2%
Sugar 15 60 1.74%
Fat 213 1917 55.52%
Sat 48 432 12.51%
Poly 58 522 15.12%
Mono 105 945 27.37%
 
Carbs in PB add up really quickly.


Eggs over easy, ****ing delicious.


Lean and Fit meal replacer with hoods milk or heavy whipping cream FTW.
 
CryingEmo said:
Carbs in PB add up really quickly.


Eggs over easy, ****ing delicious.


Lean and Fit meal replacer with hoods milk or heavy whipping cream FTW.
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Yeah, I read about your heavy whipping cream secret in another thread....its been sooooo good :food:
 
RobInKuwait said:
Yeah, I read about your heavy whipping cream secret in another thread....its been sooooo good :food:
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Hoods milk works nicely too, but it adds 3 carbs per cup.


Maybe try this:

1 scoop of whatever whey
10-12 ice cubes
1-2 tablespoons heavy whipping cream
1 cup hoods milk
1 TBLspoon Natty PB


That would be about 6-7 carbs
38-40 grams of protein
18 grams of fat
 
CryingEmo said:
Hoods milk works nicely too, but it adds 3 carbs per cup.


Maybe try this:

1 scoop of whatever whey
10-12 ice cubes
1-2 tablespoons heavy whipping cream
1 cup hoods milk
1 TBLspoon Natty PB


That would be about 6-7 carbs
38-40 grams of protein
18 grams of fat
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Never tried the hoods milk. Never even seen it in stores before I actually. I typically go:

1.5 scoop casein
2 eggs
2 tbsp cream
Ice or not, depending on whether I want to blend.

Pretty similar macros.
 
CryingEmo said:
Hoods milk works nicely too, but it adds 3 carbs per cup.


Maybe try this:

1 scoop of whatever whey
10-12 ice cubes
1-2 tablespoons heavy whipping cream
1 cup hoods milk
1 TBLspoon Natty PB


That would be about 6-7 carbs
38-40 grams of protein
18 grams of fat
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Have to tell you that sounds great! haha. I really wish I could get heavy whipping cream out here! It would make my dieting much easier that is for sure! If only it would make it in shipping ><
 
I have gotten much better results, and feel better, since i "cleaned up" my fat sources. I was eating allot of cream, chicken wings, rib-eyes, whole eggs, peperoni/sausages, etc.

Now all my protein is from lean sources(egg white, sirloin, chicken), and fat from EVOO, almond butter/peanut butter, fish oil, coconut oil, etc. I will usually eat one yolk in my eggwhites though.

It is much harder this way, as it takes most of the "fun" out of the diet, and is more like a traditional low fat diet(lean protein sources) but for "me" the results have been better.

Also make sure your doing a proper re-feed. At first i was being a ***** about my re-feeds, and was scared to indulge. I was eating 1-2 re-feed meals a week. Much better results, when i really hammered the carbs, and moderated fat intake fairly strictly.
 
imprezivr6 said:
I have gotten much better results, and feel better, since i "cleaned up" my fat sources. I was eating allot of cream, chicken wings, rib-eyes, whole eggs, peperoni/sausages, etc.

Now all my protein is from lean sources(egg white, sirloin, chicken), and fat from EVOO, almond butter/peanut butter, fish oil, coconut oil, etc. I will usually eat one yolk in my eggwhites though.

It is much harder this way, as it takes most of the "fun" out of the diet, and is more like a traditional low fat diet(lean protein sources) but for "me" the results have been better.

Also make sure your doing a proper re-feed. At first i was being a ***** about my re-feeds, and was scared to indulge. I was eating 1-2 re-feed meals a week. Much better results, when i really hammered the carbs, and moderated fat intake fairly strictly.
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Eggs are actually healthy fats. They also provide good cholesterol, which as you know, testosterone is derived from.


Whole eggs > everything.


I like over easy eggs. The whites get cooked, but the yolk stay intact and is very warm, and is like a yellow gob of goodness.
 
CryingEmo said:
Eggs are actually healthy fats. They also provide good cholesterol, which as you know, testosterone is derived from.


Whole eggs > everything.


I like over easy eggs. The whites get cooked, but the yolk stay intact and is very warm, and is like a yellow gob of goodness.
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Ok? Did i say anything negative about eggs? I guess i listed "whole eggs" in my list, however i figured i made it clear enough by saying i still eat them, after my "fat source overhaul"

I don't have enough room left in my diet to eat more then 1-2 yolks in an "egg" based meal. So like i said, ill eat 1yolk, with my whites.

When cals were higher, i would eat more yolks.
 
CryingEmo said:
Eggs are actually healthy fats. They also provide good cholesterol, which as you know, testosterone is derived from.


Whole eggs > everything.


I like over easy eggs. The whites get cooked, but the yolk stay intact and is very warm, and is like a yellow gob of goodness.
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put that on some toast. holy crap.
 
nice guys thanks alot. so i read up a bit after that post last night as as of now this is what my diet looked like today.


6 am:
50g whey protein
3 tbsp olive oil

9am:
chicken breast w/ blue cheese dressing

12:30am:
1/2 chicken ( chicken grill yum)
2tbsp olive oil

5pm

Tuna in oil
1tbsp light mayo


thats it as of now.
improvement?

thanks for all your posts guys!
 
MGSDP said:
nice guys thanks alot. so i read up a bit after that post last night as as of now this is what my diet looked like today.


6 am:
50g whey protein
3 tbsp olive oil

9am:
chicken breast w/ blue cheese dressing

12:30am:
1/2 chicken ( chicken grill yum)
2tbsp olive oil

5pm

Tuna in oil
1tbsp light mayo


thats it as of now.
improvement?

thanks for all your posts guys!
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i may have missed something..but is your protein in the morning mixed with water or skim milk?
 
MGSDP said:
nice guys thanks alot. so i read up a bit after that post last night as as of now this is what my diet looked like today.


6 am:
50g whey protein
3 tbsp olive oil

9am:
chicken breast w/ blue cheese dressing

12:30am:
1/2 chicken ( chicken grill yum)
2tbsp olive oil

5pm

Tuna in oil
1tbsp light mayo


thats it as of now.
improvement?

thanks for all your posts guys!
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Looks tasty! Is your last meal at 5pm? What time do you go to sleep? Maybe consider having some eggs before bed..
 
RobInKuwait said:
Looks tasty! Is your last meal at 5pm? What time do you go to sleep? Maybe consider having some eggs before bed..
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phew! just woke up! long day today.
my shake in the morn is with water.
my last meal was at 5 but because i knocked out.

9:52pm:
couple 0z. of chicken with a dab of light mayo.

not to mention the gallons of the arizona diet green tea i have been tearing up.
 
I agree w/ rob depending on when you go to bed. I know that if I don't have a small meal say an hour before sleep when I wake up my body is starving. Eggs would be a good choice as well :)
Your diet is looking much better. Just remember for the first few days to more or less count the calories you want to be below manit. level but not so low that your body goes into starvation mode.
 
Here is what I am currently following and it is working great. No strength loss, never hungry, and never flat.

Meal 1 4 whole Omega-3 eggs, 2 egg whites

Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/2 cup raw almonds

Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter, 1 scoop Myofiber

Meal 4 8oz salmon, 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon natty PB

Meal 5 50 g whey with 2 tablespoon natty PB, 1 scoop natty PB

Meal 6 4 Omega-3 eggs, 2 whites
 
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