Cjnator's LeGenD w/ Radar1ne log

Day 27 of LGD

Hit chest and triceps

Flat BB bench press
135x7
185x1
225x1
245x1
265x1
275x1(30lb PR :D)
135x10

DB incline press
50x3x10-12

DB incline flies
35x10
45x2x10

Incline BB close grip bench press
95x3x10-15

Dips
BWx3x10

Tricep rope pushdowns
30x4x10-12

•If I don't gain any weight by next week, I'll be jumping to 4500 a day while on RAD.
 
CJNator said:
Day 27 of LGD

Hit chest and triceps

Flat BB bench press
135x7
185x1
225x1
245x1
265x1
275x1(30lb PR :D)
135x10

DB incline press
50x3x10-12

DB incline flies
35x10
45x2x10

Incline BB close grip bench press
95x3x10-15

Dips
BWx3x10

Tricep rope pushdowns
30x4x10-12

•If I don't gain any weight by next week, I'll be jumping to 4500 a day while on RAD.
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Nice PR bro!
 
CJNator said:
Thanks man! Would you recommend me staying at 4000 till next week or jump to 4500 now? Not gaining weight is annoying the hell out of me lol.
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This is crazy ! Ho could you not gain weight ?
Up it to 5000, go "All In" for a few days and watch the mirror.
 
hairygrandpa said:
This is crazy ! Ho could you not gain weight ?
Up it to 5000, go "All In" for a few days and watch the mirror.
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That sounds like a challenge lol idk if my stomach can handle that jump but I'll up it to 4500 for 2-3 days then 5000. I feel like I'm doing something wrong counting wise but I'm not sure what it would be lol I think I'll up it to 4500 starting tonight.

Finishing up the night with a peanut butter sandwich and pasta, not counting them but I know its about 800+ calories.
 
Naaaa man it's just that nutrient partitioning in full effect. Surprisingly, at least for me, SARMs have worked better in this area than ph's.
 
Dma378 said:
Naaaa man it's just that nutrient partitioning in full effect. Surprisingly, at least for me, SARMs have worked better in this area than ph's.
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Really? I'm not feeling like I'm not making any gainz besides strength gainz but its only been almost a month. I know RAD will be crazy if LGD is really this good at nutrient partitioning. I hope I start seeing some change in body composition besides the first 10lb gain within the first week.
 
Dma378 said:
Remind me your macros at those cals
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I don't have a set macros for bulking, I find it easier to just count calories but I notice my carbs are usually high (between 200-350), my protein and fat usually are around the same(around 120-150 I would like to say).
 
Dma378 I don't understand how nutrient partitioning halt weight gain? I should be gaining some weight due to gaining muscle(if I'm gaining any).
 
CJNator said:
Dma378 I don't understand how nutrient partitioning halt weight gain? I should be gaining some weight due to gaining muscle(if I'm gaining any).
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I've read things about people eating to much and not gaining weight.. But then getting it within a good range and starting to?
 
Burnfire said:
I've read things about people eating to much and not gaining weight.. But then getting it within a good range and starting to?
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Somehow I gained 10lbs within the first week somehow, maybe that would be my range. sanmarino what your take on this situation? Your pm was full.
 
Maybe the term "nutrient partitioning" isn't appropriate. I mean it in the sense that on anabolics the calories, and carbs in particular, get shuttled through the body and metabolized at a much higher rate with no effect on body composition. On cycle I can eat 4500 calories a day and not even budge the scale, but I eat 4500 not on cycle and I'll get straight fat. The body is just burning through it so much more efficiently.
 
Dma378 said:
Maybe the term "nutrient partitioning" isn't appropriate. I mean it in the sense that on anabolics the calories, and carbs in particular, get shuttled through the body and metabolized at a much higher rate with no effect on body composition. On cycle I can eat 4500 calories a day and not even budge the scale, but I eat 4500 not on cycle and I'll get straight fat. The body is just burning through it so much more efficiently.
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Damn so I guess I'll be eating more but what else would you recommend I do?
 
CJNator said:
Somehow I gained 10lbs within the first week somehow, maybe that would be my range. sanmarino what your take on this situation? Your pm was full.
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Concerning LGD? The 10lbs gaining in one week could result in glycogen retention of an anabolic/androgenic substance like LGD. You should have looked fuller and "pumped".
 
sanmarino said:
Concerning LGD? The 10lbs gaining in one week could result in glycogen retention of an anabolic/androgenic substance like LGD. You should have looked fuller and "pumped".
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Besides those 10lbs, I haven't gained one pound within this month going from 2800-4500 calories. Dma was saying that LGD is making my body burn up the calories so I can't gain any weight. If/Since this is the case, what would you recommend I do? In a couple of days I'll be on RAD and 12mg of LGD.
 
No he's saying that the body when on anabolics is using more nutrients and using them more efficiently , you need to up protein . Try that at your current calories and see where you are in a week
 
Joedoubledose said:
No he's saying that the body when on anabolics is using more nutrients and using them more efficiently , you need to up protein . Try that at your current calories and see where you are in a week
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Right. Your body just does a better job at using the calories converting them to energy, instead of storing them as fat or muscle.
 
I never had such a bump in one week and a stagnation for other weeks.
Dma may be right, taking an compound like LGD may cause some troube despite higher calories.

I'm assuming your thyroid levels are still good? There are some possibilities to try:
- do more cardio: cardio will increase your appetite. With higher appetite you are able to eat more. In the morning would be a optimal time. If that doesn't work (work, school, whatever) do longer cardio or with higher intensity.
- your protein and possible creatine values (we don't know if the creatine synthesis is going to be improved) should be higher than normal. Don't forget that.
- you are on a critical level (rien ne va plus, nothing works anymore): you are using already a longer time period LGD and "forcing" your body to build up more.
If that's the case, you should now realize, that LGD cannot be taken for a very long time with expecations from gaining more and more. The curve raises fast, but decreases also rapidly. I also noticed a "drop" of utility after the 7th or 8th week on LGD. That was the best time to finish the cycle and try to keep the gains.
If that's not the case: don't worry. You are forcing your body to build up more muscle mass, that process takes its time. Train hard, eat well, sleep well and everything goes in the right way.

But the main requirement is that your stuff is legit (if OL UK, then you are on the safer side).

You are going to stack LGD and RAD? I hope that will give you a nice improvement.
 
sanmarino said:
I never had such a bump in one week and a stagnation for other weeks.
Dma may be right, taking an compound like LGD may cause some troube despite higher calories.

I'm assuming your thyroid levels are still good? There are some possibilities to try:
- do more cardio: cardio will increase your appetite. With higher appetite you are able to eat more. In the morning would be a optimal time. If that doesn't work (work, school, whatever) do longer cardio or with higher intensity.
- your protein and possible creatine values (we don't know if the creatine synthesis is going to be improved) should be higher than normal. Don't forget that.
- you are on a critical level (rien ne va plus, nothing works anymore): you are using already a longer time period LGD and "forcing" your body to build up more.
If that's the case, you should now realize, that LGD cannot be taken for a very long time with expecations from gaining more and more. The curve raises fast, but decreases also rapidly. I also noticed a "drop" of utility after the 7th or 8th week on LGD. That was the best time to finish the cycle and try to keep the gains.
If that's not the case: don't worry. You are forcing your body to build up more muscle mass, that process takes its time. Train hard, eat well, sleep well and everything goes in the right way.

But the main requirement is that your stuff is legit (if OL UK, then you are on the safer side).

You are going to stack LGD and RAD? I hope that will give you a nice improvement.
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Yup, 2nd month of LGD I'll be throw in RAD for a month so in 3 days. I guess I'll start eating a lot more peanut butter(my drug of choice ;)). I can eat more but I think I was focusing more on counting then actually eating. I'll start snacking a ton more too. Thanks for the input!
 
Joedoubledose said:
No he's saying that the body when on anabolics is using more nutrients and using them more efficiently , you need to up protein . Try that at your current calories and see where you are in a week
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Dma378 said:
Right. Your body just does a better job at using the calories converting them to energy, instead of storing them as fat or muscle.
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Oh ok, I'll try just over eating on protein; I think I focus more on eating what I count then actually eat but now I know gaining fat is going to be hard I'm going all in lol.
 
Hit shoulder and traps today

Day 28 of LGD

Military press
45x20
95x3
135x3
155x3
165x1(never hit it so PR even though it isn't a major lift)

•Tried doing some cleans but I need to practice form

Seated DB shoulder press(10 sec between each set)
40x12
40x12
40x10
40x9
40x8
40x5
40x2

Lateral raises
20x3x12

Facepulls
20x10
30x10
50x3x10

Reverse DB flies
20x3x10-12

Seated DB shoulder shrugs
45x6x15-20

Behind the neck shoulder press
45x12
95x2x8-10
95x2

Upright rows
95x3x8-10
 
CJNator said:
Hit shoulder and traps today

Military press
45x20
95x3
135x3
155x3
165x1(never hit it so PR even though it isn't a major lift)

•Tried doing some cleans but I need to practice form

Seated DB shoulder press(10 sec between each set)
40x12
40x12
40x10
40x9
40x8
40x5
40x2

Lateral raises
20x3x12

Facepulls
20x10
30x10
50x3x10

Reverse DB flies
20x3x10-12

Seated DB shoulder shrugs
45x6x15-20

Behind the neck shoulder press
45x12
95x2x8-10
95x2

Upright rows
95x3x8-10
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Killin it man! And nice PR on military press!
 
Burnfire said:
Killin it man! And nice PR on military press!
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Thanks man! I'm just waiting to start up RAD in 2 days and do Deadlifts tomorrow! Going to change up my routine to hit each body part twice a week but still do rest pause training.

Mon: Back, legs, biceps
Tues: Chest, Shoulders, triceps
Wed: Break
Thurs: Repeat Monday
Fri: Repeat Tuesday
Sat: Break
Sun: Break

•Looking to minimize calories burnt each week yet hit each muscle twice.
 
Also CJ haven't you been running LGD for like the past 3 cycles ? You could possibly have a tolerance of sorts just a thought
 
CJNator said:
Thanks man! I'm just waiting to start up RAD in 2 days and do Deadlifts tomorrow! Going to change up my routine to hit each body part twice a week but still do rest pause training.

Mon: Back, legs, biceps
Tues: Chest, Shoulders, triceps
Wed: Break
Thurs: Repeat Monday
Fri: Repeat Tuesday
Sat: Break
Sun: Break

•Looking to minimize calories burnt each week yet hit each muscle twice.
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That's sounds like it's gonna be legit. Nice ready to see how you do with the RAD. And the new workout routine will give you some good results, mixed with the protein your getting. Let's the gain begin.
 
Joedoubledose said:
Also CJ haven't you been running LGD for like the past 3 cycles ? You could possibly have a tolerance of sorts just a thought
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Possibly yet I honestly doubt Xcels LGD had any in it. I'd say IMO the only legit ones I used were PNs and C&Ps. Yet C&Ps or Xcels didn't feel like how I feel now on LGD. I had 2 or 3 months in between the LGDs but I guess it's possible to maybe build one just by using it.

I was just thinking if LGD was less effective would I actually be gaining weight and fat?
 
Burnfire said:
That's sounds like it's gonna be legit. Nice ready to see how you do with the RAD. And the new workout routine will give you some good results, mixed with the protein your getting. Let's the gain begin.
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Let's hope they do begin lol.
 
Day 29 of LGD

Update(I excluded shoulders in the 1st update due to improper measurement)
-Body measurements
•Before
Calves R13½ L14
Leg R 22½ L 22
Waist 33½
Forearm R11 L11
Arm R13 L12¾
Chest 38¼
Lats 41¼

•After 1st month
Calves R14 L14.25
Leg R23.25 L23.25
Waist 34.25
Forearms R11.25 L11.25
Arms R14 L14
Chest 39.75
Last 49
Shoulders 47

•Weighted 165 this morning but I'll check in tomorrow to see what it is.

Hit deadlifts, squats, and arms today

Deadlifts
135x3
225x3
315x3
365x1
405x1(no lock out)
405x1(lock out with straps so...PR:D)

Squats(as deep as physically possible)
135x7
225x4x2-4

Seated curls(10 secs between each set)
20x15
20x10
20x5
20x4x3

Tricep rope pushdown
35x15
35x10
35x7
35x4
35x3
35x2x2

•Here is the deadlfting with the hat that I won lol first time wearing a hat in a gym and in public hairygrandpa Invalid Link Removed
 
•I could have swore I posted this up but I'm 166, I've been 5lb since yesterday, I'm not going to update pictures since body composition hasn't changed.
 
•Guys I've been thinking and I'm ending this cycle after RAD. Im going to bump up LGD to 16 with RAD, stay at my calories and macros, and let RAD plus LGD do their thing. I'll probably be selling off LGD or save it for a future run at a low dose, maybe a recomp right before I cut. I believe this run would have been better at a lower calories surplus in terms of general composition.
 
Do you have any dermacrine or something for the lethargy and if you get any lower libido? Save the LGD don't sell it. You'll want it someday.
 
That true I probably will save it and I'm not worried about a lower libido, RAD will be the main cause of lethargy but that can't be helped.
 
Maybe YOu ara the one who is not seeing the gains, you just posted your arms increased 1 inch, thats A LOT for 3 0 days and only 5lbs.
 
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