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Citique my H-drol pct please

gmenfan40

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Running h-drol 50/75/75/75/75/75

Will be running cycle support (Universal Sterol Complex) two weeks prior and through entire cycle, including pct.

PCT Liquid Clomid 105/70/35/35
Test booster (A-HD) 1 capsule a day for 4 weeks
Cycle support (Universal Sterol Complex) 4 weeks
Erase starting week 3, when SERM dosage is lowered 2/2/2/2 (take until two weeks after discontinuing SERM)

This will be my first cycle, any feedback would be appreciated. Is my clomid dosage too high? It's liquid clomid, and it goes by 35mg intervals, haven't recieved it in the mail yet, to know exactly how it's set up. Am i starting erase at the right time, seeing mixed information to either start it at the beginning of a pct, or 3 weeks in.
 
hey man, i am in the same boat as you, just starting my first h-drol, this is what someone sent to me as a good overall pct:

the basics for pct are test maximizing/boosting, estrogen blocking, estrogen minimizing, and cortisol control. So that being said. You want the following compounds.

Serm: saturation/normal/normal/taper dose
Erase: 3/3/3/2/1 (there are other mild AIs, but erase doses so easily, and has cortisol control as well).
DAA:3g/3g/3g/3g
Test maximizer (hopefully with SHBG inhibitor) (Division 1 and titanium xl are a good combo for this with the div 1 being optional) for all 4 weeks

also remember to not try and cut during pct, keep your calories at your new maintenance or a bit over, train but not as hard as when you were on, and absolutely minimize cardio.

there are a couple other things you can add in to pct, but those are just fractional improvements over the base above.
 
It looks good to me. I don't think you need that much clomid though, but thats just me. H-drol shouldn't shut you down that hard. I have ran h-drol in the past with just a basic over the counter pct like hcgenerate and I recovered fine.
 
SuperMachoMan said:
hey man, i am in the same boat as you, just starting my first h-drol, this is what someone sent to me as a good overall pct:

the basics for pct are test maximizing/boosting, estrogen blocking, estrogen minimizing, and cortisol control. So that being said. You want the following compounds.

Serm: saturation/normal/normal/taper dose
Erase: 3/3/3/2/1 (there are other mild AIs, but erase doses so easily, and has cortisol control as well).
DAA:3g/3g/3g/3g
Test maximizer (hopefully with SHBG inhibitor) (Division 1 and titanium xl are a good combo for this with the div 1 being optional) for all 4 weeks

also remember to not try and cut during pct, keep your calories at your new maintenance or a bit over, train but not as hard as when you were on, and absolutely minimize cardio.

there are a couple other things you can add in to pct, but those are just fractional improvements over the base above.
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So you suggest Erase the start of a pct, and run it one week longer than everything else, interesting. Seems like a solid plan.
 
justliftit said:
It looks good to me. I don't think you need that much clomid though, but thats just me. H-drol shouldn't shut you down that hard. I have ran h-drol in the past with just a basic over the counter pct like hcgenerate and I recovered fine.
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Do you have bloods to back this up or are you just going by your own judgement?
 
im highly skeptical of anything with tribulus in it or basically anything thats a root or plant that supposed to raise natural test. Iv have heard good things about D aspartic acid and it actually has some studies and tests behind it, Trib and these other are all "may increase" or "some think it raises". i like the erase and DAA combined, . I am also throwing in some Creatine in my pct to help keep gains, Does anyone know if this is to hard on the body or if its ok?
 
trib is more of a libido/errection enhncer, not a test booster, there are other compounds that have been shown to increase test (primordial has one that converts cholesterol to test).

ManBeast
 
I don't know how to read blood work, I let my doc do that. But I did happen to get some blood work 2 months after my cycle and my doc said everything looked fine. The only time I had problems was with m-drol (stronger than h-drol) and anadrol (way stronger than h-drol). I know some friends that don't even take a pct with h-drol, I tell them they are crazy but idk. If he wants to take clomid go ahead, there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Yea the SERM thing is something i only heard about in thse forums. In the golden age of bodybuilding, there were no SERMS and really PCT in general, and they are far more healthy than the bodybuilders and powerlifters now, mostly because alot of them are still alive and didnt die a 50. My dad and people his age all ran steroids and had no idea either. I know people who have ran anadrol, deca, dbol, test, primabolin, sust and more and have never even heard of pct. All of them though would taper off though. I think the key is not abusing anabolics, you run 2 good cycles a year and dont go overboard on dosage and time.
 
I honestly don't think SERMs are to blame for the early deaths of modern bodybuilders, I think it is the extreme amounts of compounds (ab)used.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
I honestly don't think SERMs are to blame for the early deaths of modern bodybuilders, I think it is the extreme amounts of compounds (ab)used.

ManBeast
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Thats what i am saying, i am not saying it is SERMS, i am saying if you run only 2 cycles a year without going extreme youll get good results and it wont be that brutal on your body. Also i am not a fan of how bodybuilders look now. I would much rather look like Frank Zane who weighed around 180 than jay cutler, i actually have no desire to look like him or any of these squatybodies with there huge waists and oversized legs.
 
Yeah, back in the day I think aesthetics and defintion were key, with size being important. Now I think its more of a size > definition > aesthetics thing in BBing...

ManBeast
 
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