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Hi all, so after a 12 week 400mg test and 30mg msten cycle in june-august this year. I waited possibly too long for esters to clear and although i had no other symptoms of low T my libido was rock bottom and erections were weak as a mouse fart and lasted about as long, i got on clomid and after a month of 25mg a day it worked a treat, however after a few bad performances the fear of failure had taken root. I've got some generic tadalafil, piping rock t1000 tribulus terrestris and piping rock yohimbe 2200 which is 550mg of 4:1 yohimbe extract. After trying 20mg tadalafil with 2 caps each of y and t, the results were good but i had serious facial flushing, headache, sinus pressure, fast heartbeat and the pulse in my neck you could see from the other side of the room, it was not a comfortable night for me (other than the good sex).
I'm looking for thoughts/advice on this stack and is there any negative pharmacokinetics between the different compunds, any thoughts on the situation in general and also does anyone know how much actual yohimbine i would be getting from the supplement. Thanks in advance for input
 

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Hey bro,

couple of different thoughts I have on this.

the first and probably most important is the psychological aspect (which is a massive cause of Ed for some). You mentioned that you had no other symptoms of low t but you were struggling in the bedroom....did you get bloods? High (or low in some cases) estrogen can cause libido and Ed issues. If you didn’t that’s step one imo, at least that way you can either address an actual hormonal issue or be confident that your hormones arent an issue (just knowing that could be enough to remove pre sex anxiety which could also be the cause).

on the actual stack, why run the Y? Cialis alone is hugely effective and I would have thought was more than enough (even at 10mg). Y would just be adding sides for no benefit (in the sex context) imo? I’m kinda ignoring the trib as I don’t think that will have done much at all vs the other compounds tbh
 
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Hey bro,

couple of different thoughts I have on this.

the first and probably most important is the psychological aspect (which is a massive cause of Ed for some). You mentioned that you had no other symptoms of low t but you were struggling in the bedroom....did you get bloods? High (or low in some cases) estrogen can cause libido and Ed issues. If you didn’t that’s step one imo, at least that way you can either address an actual hormonal issue or be confident that your hormones arent an issue (just knowing that could be enough to remove pre sex anxiety which could also be the cause).

on the actual stack, why run the Y? Cialis alone is hugely effective and I would have thought was more than enough (even at 10mg). Y would just be adding sides for no benefit (in the sex context) imo? I’m kinda ignoring the trib as I don’t think that will have done much at all vs the other compounds tbh
Thanks for your input. I agree about the possibility of my issue being psychological, after the false starts i felt nervous even intitiating sex which is crazy because my gf is so understanding. I didn't get bloods done on this cycle (stupid i know) I've done a few cycles and literally every single time I'm in a situation my e2 creeps up my nipples start ringing like alarm bells, i take nolva or dex and they calm down so i feel confident i can intuitively know when E is an issue, i fully accept i could be wrong about this though. The trib and Y i basically had a blow out on supps when i found piping rock for 1st time and and had always wanted to try Y for its fat burning and have read trib is good for libido so wanted to throw the kitchen sink at it. I think it is a good idea trying 10mg next time and see how that goes.

I'm going to get bloods done soon as I'm 38 in January and want to know where I'm at to assess whether to ever cycle again or trt etc
 
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Hey bro,

couple of different thoughts I have on this.

the first and probably most important is the psychological aspect (which is a massive cause of Ed for some). You mentioned that you had no other symptoms of low t but you were struggling in the bedroom....did you get bloods? High (or low in some cases) estrogen can cause libido and Ed issues. If you didn’t that’s step one imo, at least that way you can either address an actual hormonal issue or be confident that your hormones arent an issue (just knowing that could be enough to remove pre sex anxiety which could also be the cause).

on the actual stack, why run the Y? Cialis alone is hugely effective and I would have thought was more than enough (even at 10mg). Y would just be adding sides for no benefit (in the sex context) imo? I’m kinda ignoring the trib as I don’t think that will have done much at all vs the other compounds tbh
I agree, the Y is overkill in this situation. I wouldn't shy away from lowering both of the other two doses and dropping the Y completely.
 

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Thanks for your input. I agree about the possibility of my issue being psychological, after the false starts i felt nervous even intitiating sex which is crazy because my gf is so understanding. I didn't get bloods done on this cycle (stupid i know) I've done a few cycles and literally every single time I'm in a situation my e2 creeps up my nipples start ringing like alarm bells, i take nolva or dex and they calm down so i feel confident i can intuitively know when E is an issue, i fully accept i could be wrong about this though. The trib and Y i basically had a blow out on supps when i found piping rock for 1st time and and had always wanted to try Y for its fat burning and have read trib is good for libido so wanted to throw the kitchen sink at it. I think it is a good idea trying 10mg next time and see how that goes.

I'm going to get bloods done soon as I'm 38 in January and want to know where I'm at to assess whether to ever cycle again or trt etc
bloods will help for sure bro. Give you some solid basis to form a plan.

the sinuses are a pain on ciailis but 10mg might mitigate some of that.

good luck mate
 
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Thanks, I'm going to do 10mg and see how that is, for my first time trying it i was definitely impressed, it's powerful stuff for sure, i was walking my dog about 2 hours later and got a boner out of nowhere, i wasn't even thinking of anything it just came up like i was 16 again haha
 
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I agree, the Y is overkill in this situation. I wouldn't shy away from lowering both of the other two doses and dropping the Y completely.
Thanks i going to try that, i need less cialis for sure, 20mg is too much for me
 

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Thanks, I'm going to do 10mg and see how that is, for my first time trying it i was definitely impressed, it's powerful stuff for sure, i was walking my dog about 2 hours later and got a boner out of nowhere, i wasn't even thinking of anything it just came up like i was 16 again haha
oh it’s great stuff for sure. I sometimes bang one down just for fun. I’ve no issue getting hard but that stuff makes it feel like I’m gonna split the skin it’s so hard.
 
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piping rock yohimbe 2200 which is 550mg of 4:1 yohimbe extract.
Dude, that is an insane amount. The most you want is maybe 5mg of yohimbine HCL before sex. 550mg is a dangerous dose. I've actually overdosed on yohimbe before and it's not pleasant. You can pick up some cheap Primaforce 2.5mg yohimbine hcl for around $10

on the actual stack, why run the Y? Cialis alone is hugely effective and I would have thought was more than enough (even at 10mg). Y would just be adding sides for no benefit (in the sex context) imo? I’m kinda ignoring the trib as I don’t think that will have done much at all vs the other compounds tbh
Yohimbine is actually an ED drug in some countries, so it can't hurt to take it with your sexual encounter. I sometimes take yohimbine, but I always take Tribestan before sex. It's the original tribulus from Bulgaria, soI feel like it boosts my libido.



3.5 Aphrodisia
Yohimbine can reverse the anti-aphrodisiac effects of alpha-2-adrenergic agonists in rats (such as clonidine[30]) or can otherwise negate some chemicals that antagonize sexuality (such as Naloxone,[31]) while enhancing sexual motivation in otherwise healthy rats. This effect is independent of the state of the genitalia (working in models of genital anesthetization[32]), the state of exhaustion,[33] and works independently of the hormone testosterone(still effective despite castration[34]), testosterone of which is known to be associated with enhanced libido in men[35] and women.[36]

4.1 Erectile Dysfunction
Yohimbine, secondary to its alpha-2-adrenergic inhibitory potential, was commonly used as first-line treatment for erectile dysfunction previous to the advent of PDE5 inhibitors.[53] A review[53] that cited the following trials[54][55][56][57][58][59][60] notes a variable efficacy range of 34-73% exists and this may be due to efficacy in persons with psychogenic erectile dysfunction rather than other models of erectile dysfunction, such as organic.[53]

Combination therapy of Yohimbine with L-Arginine has shown preliminary benefits[61] with more efficacy in mild to moderate (rather than severe) erectile dysfunction.[62]

Thanks for your input. I agree about the possibility of my issue being psychological, after the false starts i felt nervous even intitiating sex which is crazy because my gf is so understanding. I didn't get bloods done on this cycle (stupid i know) I've done a few cycles and literally every single time I'm in a situation my e2 creeps up my nipples start ringing like alarm bells, i take nolva or dex and they calm down so i feel confident i can intuitively know when E is an issue, i fully accept i could be wrong about this though. The trib and Y i basically had a blow out on supps when i found piping rock for 1st time and and had always wanted to try Y for its fat burning and have read trib is good for libido so wanted to throw the kitchen sink at it. I think it is a good idea trying 10mg next time and see how that goes.

I'm going to get bloods done soon as I'm 38 in January and want to know where I'm at to assess whether to ever cycle again or trt etc
You can get very cheap blood tests from here. You just buy the tests you want, and go into a Qewest or Labcorp and get a quick blood draw.

 
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oh it’s great stuff for sure. I sometimes bang one down just for fun. I’ve no issue getting hard but that stuff makes it feel like I’m gonna split the skin it’s so hard.
Believe me, I’ve split the skin many times on 20mg cialis. Also this girl I was seeing said to me last time; hey your dik is fatter... it was to be honest but probably down to spanking the monkey 24/7 for 2 days non stop🤣
 
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Dude, that is an insane amount. The most you want is maybe 5mg of yohimbine HCL before sex. 550mg is a dangerous dose. I've actually overdosed on yohimbe before and it's not pleasant. You can pick up some cheap Primaforce 2.5mg yohimbine hcl for around $10


Yohimbine is actually an ED drug in some countries, so it can't hurt to take it with your sexual encounter. I sometimes take yohimbine, but I always take Tribestan before sex. It's the original tribulus from Bulgaria, soI feel like it boosts my libido.








You can get very cheap blood tests from here. You just buy the tests you want, and go into a Qewest or Labcorp and get a quick blood draw.

Thanks for the detailed reply and all the links, lots to check out there, the yohimbe im taking is 550mg of yohimbe not YOHIMBINE so I'm wondering if anyone knows how much yohimbine would be in that much yohimbe root extract
 
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Believe me, I’ve split the skin many times on 20mg cialis. Also this girl I was seeing said to me last time; hey your dik is fatter... it was to be honest but probably down to spanking the monkey 24/7 for 2 days non stop🤣
I did same thing, thought since im suffering the sides i might aswell use my peen while its in turbo mode
 

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