Unanswered Cialis issues?

[Brain5ick]

So I believe I am for some reason experiencing the more serious sides of the cialis I’m on and my doctor is advising I stop taking it to see if anything changes. On top of chest/neck/arm/shoulder pains I’m getting ringing in my ears and blurry vision now so my doctor is rather concerned. More so about my cialis than my caffeine. So there’s an update. Anyone else experience these sides on these kinds of meds?
Heart is in A1 condition on every level so it isn’t that.

 

[Matthersby]

Cialis is the one with the least sides for me. Could take any time any dose and only get flushing and a stuffy nose.
Try Avanafil. Only 5 hour half life but I swear the stuff is badass. NO sides for me.

 

[Brain5ick]

Cialis is the one with the least sides for me. Could take any time any dose and only get flushing and a stuffy nose.
Try Avanafil. Only 5 hour half life but I swear the stuff is badass. NO sides for me.

I really liked cialis but these sides have been freaking me out. I can get that or viagra so I’ll see what I can work out. They just kind of built up over time and started getting worse. Not happening when lifting or doing cardio but when I’m resting or driving which is weird. Usually worse about 1-3 hours after dosing my cialis and later on in the day my vision gets blurry. Thought it was my contacts but they’re brand new and this happens with my glasses. Chest and neck pains are happening as I type this. Waiting to start my winny until I get this figured out because I don’t want to be anxious because of this issue when starting a cycle.
Have you ever heard of these sides on cialis or PDE5 meds bro? I have to put my mind at ease here.

 

[Ironpirate]

If you are taking the cialis everyday then try 3-5mg because it builds up in your system. I've found 3mg daily to suffice. I would definitely try to lower that caffeine intake as well.

 

[Brain5ick]

If you are taking the cialis everyday then try 3-5mg because it builds up in your system. I've found 3mg daily to suffice. I would definitely try to lower that caffeine intake as well.

Lowering the caffeine tomorrow to 400mg or less. Yeah I figured 10mg every day was too much. My wife just told me she’s noticed over the past few weeks that I’ve been having odd pains that have been progressively getting worse but she chalked it up to me having workout injuries. She said it started about two weeks after I started the cialis.
You know I’ve only had anxiety issues with caffeine but nothing like this, but obviously it isn’t helping. Makes me wonder about guys that take 300-400mg pre workouts every day.

 

[Ironpirate]

Lowering the caffeine tomorrow to 400mg or less. Yeah I figured 10mg every day was too much. My wife just told me she’s noticed over the past few weeks that I’ve been having odd pains that have been progressively getting worse but she chalked it up to me having workout injuries. She said it started about two weeks after I started the cialis.
You know I’ve only had anxiety issues with caffeine but nothing like this, but obviously it isn’t helping. Makes me wonder about guys that take 300-400mg pre workouts every day.

I hope you find the right balance for you that alleviates your issues. Cialis is a beautiful thing.

 

[benjamfzb]

I cant confirm as i only take it when im blackout drunk and have to perform in a fmf while on cycle but it makes me faint in the morning. Dizzy af when i get up fast too

 

[Brain5ick]

I cant confirm as i only take it when im blackout drunk and have to perform in a fmf while on cycle but it makes me faint in the morning. Dizzy af when i get up fast too

How much are you taking??

 

[benjamfzb]

How much are you taking??

Theyre 25mg pills from a questionable source. Pretty sure theyre underdosed. I take half the pill. Definitively works and is cialis even if underdosed

 

[Brain5ick]

Theyre 25mg pills from a questionable source. Pretty sure theyre underdosed. I take half the pill. Definitively works and is cialis even if underdosed

Hmm that’s odd for that dose, not if mixed with alcohol though

 

[Delboss731]

I cant confirm as i only take it when im blackout drunk and have to perform in a fmf while on cycle but it makes me faint in the morning. Dizzy af when i get up fast too

Bro stop drinking. Coming from a guy with 7 years of alcohol abuse, **** ain't worth it. 2019 has been really my first year predominately sober since 2011. Alcohol will give way more negative sides then a lot of things. Especially if you're getting drunk to the extent of blacking out.

 

[benjamfzb]

Bro stop drinking. Coming from a guy with 7 years of alcohol abuse, **** ain't worth it. 2019 has been really my first year predominately sober since 2011. Alcohol will give way more negative sides then a lot of things. Especially if you're getting drunk to the extent of blacking out.

I appreciate the concern but this happens like 4x a year and usually on out of country trips

 

[Matthersby]

Everyone is different but a lot of guys use cialis to avoid viagra sides.
Vardenafil and Avanafil would be better places to start. Ava being the best one ever but requires more than eod dosing which is why I prefer cialis

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i think the half life is close to 2 days.. i recomend you take 10 mgs eod..

 

[Brain5ick]

No cialis today, having less pains so far. They are still there but definitely less of them. Less caffeine as well. Hit chest at the gym on just two cups of coffee and tore it up!!! Actually had a better pump and workout than usual.

 

[CroLifter]

Man i think i already said i dont get any benefit from cialis.

Why dont you drop it if it causes you health issues? You are young you will definitely be fine without it, besides, your testosterone is higher than teenager's hahahah

i also didnt like it because for some weird reason coupled with low dose of caber dropped my blood pressure to 95/55 i almost collapsed at work had to go home early. Also, my resting heartrate during daytime would drop to 44, that is when i said no more of that sh1t.

 

[Brain5ick]

Man i think i already said i dont get any benefit from cialis.

Why dont you drop it if it causes you health issues? You are young you will definitely be fine without it, besides, your testosterone is higher than teenager's hahahah

i also didnt like it because for some weird reason coupled with low dose of caber dropped my blood pressure to 95/55 i almost collapsed at work had to go home early. Also, my resting heartrate during daytime would drop to 44, that is when i said no more of that sh1t.

I just liked the pump and whatnot and hell running into my wife dick first was pretty great. It wasn’t working as well as of lately though and I’m not sure why. No reason to run it if it isn’t working though so I’m just stopping it due to the random health issues.

 

[CroLifter]

I appreciate the concern but this happens like 4x a year and usually on out of country trips

Stopping that habit early (at 19) was extremely good for me. People always tell me that they drink so that they get "loose". Well, personally, if the company is there and music is good then i dont need anything else.
never tried any of the recreational drugs and dont plan to.

however, a little bit of test and proviron and i feel very uninhibited. Uninhibited as if i had a couple of drinks yet i keep my sharpness.

 

[Matthersby]

I just liked the pump and whatnot and hell running into my wife dick first was pretty great. It wasn’t working as well as of lately though and I’m not sure why. No reason to run it if it isn’t working though so I’m just stopping it due to the random health issues.

After 4-5 years it stops working even close to as well too. I’ve had to mess with mixtures with 10 eod and then 25 of Avanafil or 5 of varden, even 50 of viagra from time to time. It will work but it won’t stay nearly as hard in between times of constant stimulation like it did those first few years. Then it fucks with your head bc you start thinking what if it doesn’t work at all one day and you want to cycle in an off or mix it to keep the body on its toes and keep it working. plus we all know what happens when we start stressing about being hard while we are actually hard. If I could go back I’d never start using it but I’d need it by now with 19nors running 6mos out of the year and all the hormone fcking with I do. Oh well this is what I chose. At least I can still keep it up well for now. Just hope that stays the case

 

[CroLifter]

Btw @Brain5ick you sure that those pains are cardiac related?

because i get some chest pains (more like sensations, not strong pains) however they might be anything from musculoskeletal to psychological.
I took a punch to an upper abdomen (without a boxing glove) few days ago while sparring and while it didnt hurt at all at the very moment i seemed to get light chest pain few minutes later...could be from the punch...could be from exhaustion as i was panting like crazy (intense sparring session)

However i think that it can be other stuff, not just cardiac related

 

[Brain5ick]

Btw @Brain5ick you sure that those pains are cardiac related?

because i get some chest pains (more like sensations, not strong pains) however they might be anything from musculoskeletal to psychological.
I took a punch to an upper abdomen (without a boxing glove) few days ago while sparring and while it didnt hurt at all at the very moment i seemed to get light chest pain few minutes later...could be from the punch...could be from exhaustion as i was panting like crazy (intense sparring session)

However i think that it can be other stuff, not just cardiac related

Not cardiac related imo, but it’s not going to look much different of cialis is actually the cause and without taking it I feel pretty good. I’ll take that outcome lol.

 

[Delboss731]

I appreciate the concern but this happens like 4x a year and usually on out of country trips

No problem. My bad bro I thought you were routinely getting drunk. Proud that you only drink seldomly. best wishes

 

[Brain5ick]

So say 2 without cialis, having very slight cramps around the chest but not for as long and not as intensely. No neck pain or blurry vision so far. Ears still ringing on occasion. I’ll keep this updated.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

my only problem with cialis is affording how much i use

 

[Matthersby]

my only problem with cialis is affording how much i use

PRO’s was so stupid strong. I could take 5mg and it was like taking 25. And it was always $24.95. He closed 6 weeks ago and I still have a damn almost full bottle.

 

[Matthersby]

my only problem with cialis is affording how much i use

PRO’s was so stupid strong. I could take 5mg and it was like taking 25. And it was always $24.95. He closed 6 weeks ago and I still have a damn almost full bottle.

 

[Delboss731]

My only problem with cialis is getting hold of it. I hate having to use crypto currency and all this other bullshit. Wish it was as easy as before to access it.

 

[thebigt]

Bro stop drinking. Coming from a guy with 7 years of alcohol abuse, **** ain't worth it. 2019 has been really my first year predominately sober since 2011. Alcohol will give way more negative sides then a lot of things. Especially if you're getting drunk to the extent of blacking out.

the 1st ths or so you might feel the physical urge to drink...after that it becomes mentally tricky when you start thinking you can handle a few drinks-I struggled with the mental aspect for several years before I finally convinced myself I just wasn't ever ging back to that dark place I was at while drinking.

 

[patrick25]

the 1st ths or so you might feel the physical urge to drink...after that it becomes mentally tricky when you start thinking you can handle a few drinks-I struggled with the mental aspect for several years before I finally convinced myself I just wasn't ever ging back to that dark place I was at while drinking.

So you abstain from drinking all together?

 

[Ironpirate]

My only problem with cialis is getting hold of it. I hate having to use crypto currency and all this other bullshit. Wish it was as easy as before to access it.

You can get it very easily without crypto from some of the board sponsors

 

[thebigt]

So you abstain from drinking all together?

yes...I am a recovering alcoholic.

 

[Matthersby]

the 1st ths or so you might feel the physical urge to drink...after that it becomes mentally tricky when you start thinking you can handle a few drinks-I struggled with the mental aspect for several years before I finally convinced myself I just wasn't ever ging back to that dark place I was at while drinking.

X2

 

[Delboss731]

You can get it very easily without crypto from some of the board sponsors

Right but I'm not good with e-check or google pay. Maybe I'm just wanting easy processing by using a debit/credit card.

 

[thebigt]

Right but I'm not good with e-check or google pay. Maybe I'm just wanting easy processing by using a debit/credit card.

I got a debit card for the purpose of online ordering...I load the amount or close to it onto card and never carry a balance of over $15. would never use my credit card for online-never!!!

 

[Matthersby]

I got a debit card for the purpose of online ordering...I load the amount or close to it onto card and never carry a balance of over $15. would never use my credit card for online-never!!!

Probably a safer practice. But really good credit unions and banks that use Visa/MC all have great fraud protection. Quick call or email and the charge gets reversed and then it’s on them to prove it’s valid and usually they just cover the loss and you never think about it again. Even worse than CC/Debit ordering online is MG/WU. There’s no real record (just a name of a guy/gal) and you could put in a $2500 order and they could send you nothing. What can you do with a steroid source that rips you off?

 

[Jeremyk1]

Right but I'm not good with e-check or google pay. Maybe I'm just wanting easy processing by using a debit/credit card.

I’ve never used google pay, but what’s the issue with e-checks?

 

[thebigt]

Probably a safer practice. But really good credit unions and banks that use Visa/MC all have great fraud protection. Quick call or email and the charge gets reversed and then it’s on them to prove it’s valid and usually they just cover the loss and you never think about it again. Even worse than CC/Debit ordering online is MG/WU. There’s no real record (just a name of a guy/gal) and you could put in a $2500 order and they could send you nothing. What can you do with a steroid source that rips you off?

I see your point...but the farrest off the reservation I go is rc's...I guess if they aren't going to accept debit cards any longer they will be gone for me also.

 

[Delboss731]

I see your point...but the farrest off the reservation I go is rc's...I guess if they aren't going to accept debit cards any longer they will be gone for me also.

I see that purerawz has a tab that includes google pay, paypal, Zelle, ect. So if I wanted to pay using paypal I just click that tab and then place order, from there it would take me to paypal to complete the order? Just asking if anyone knows.

 

[CroLifter]

Why dont you try to get cialis through your doctor?

 

[Delboss731]

Why dont you try to get cialis through your doctor?

Idk he's been my family doctor since I was a kid. I feel strange asking him now for a script of cialis. I know horny goat weed had a natural pde5 inhibitor contained in it called iicarin or something? Wonder if that could be a powerful, natural, and safe alternative?

 

[Matthersby]

There’s some decent herbal alternatives available at most pharmacies. There’s a little area by vitamins and condums. They have NO, yohimbe and all the other stuff Maca Horny Goatweed. They work pretty well but when it comes to steroid induced issues, drugs work way better

 

[Matthersby]

There’s some decent herbal alternatives available at most pharmacies. There’s a little area by vitamins and condums. They have NO, yohimbe and all the other stuff Maca Horny Goatweed. They work pretty well but when it comes to steroid induced issues, drugs work way better

 

[Delboss731]

There’s some decent herbal alternatives available at most pharmacies. There’s a little area by vitamins and condums. They have NO, yohimbe and all the other stuff Maca Horny Goatweed. They work pretty well but when it comes to steroid induced issues, drugs work way better

I've tried a lot of natural supps. Nothing like tadalafil.

 

[Jeremyk1]

Idk he's been my family doctor since I was a kid. I feel strange asking him now for a script of cialis. I know horny goat weed had a natural pde5 inhibitor contained in it called iicarin or something? Wonder if that could be a powerful, natural, and safe alternative?

Yeah icariin is what you’d want to look for. I’ve had trouble finding a reliable brand with a high percentage extract for a good price though. I think NutraBio released one that looks good. Anyway, as I recall, icariin is like 20 times less potent than viagra. Something like that. So yes, it could kind of replace it, but won’t work nearly as well. Also, I believe it has a short half life (2 hours? It’s been a while) so it wouldn’t replace cialis very well unless you plan on dosing frequently.

 

[Delboss731]

Yeah icariin is what you’d want to look for. I’ve had trouble finding a reliable brand with a high percentage extract for a good price though. I think NutraBio released one that looks good. Anyway, as I recall, icariin is like 20 times less potent than viagra. Something like that. So yes, it could kind of replace it, but won’t work nearly as well. Also, I believe it has a short half life (2 hours? It’s been a while) so it wouldn’t replace cialis very well unless you plan on dosing frequently.

But if you took let's say 900mgs of icariin at 60% Actually containing icariin, it could come a little closer to a 25mg viagra dose. Maybe a quarter of the potency of 25mgs of viagra at that dose.