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[jtmass]

I would say this is debatable.

Super Mandro has always come with 330 mg of 1-Andro per daily dose but when it first came out it used Bergamottin to enhance absorption as based on the West Texas A&M Study (link below). Customer feedback has always been very consistent with the study's results, give or take a litte depending on user.

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Roughly 6 months after it came out Hard Rock removed Bergamottin and switched to Liposomal Delivery. Customer feedback has remained consistent with original version, any differences are likely to be statistically insignificant.

We have never had a product that offers 330 mg of 1-andro with no delivery system so it could possibly be the case that both Bergamottin and Liposomal work equally as well.

Again, it is debatable but I would say that based on what we have seen from customers, making sure you are getting the proper dose is #1, especially if you are trying to replicate the results of studies.

I don’t remember where I read it. But, it basically said, Cyclosome delivery system is King. And also showed the difference in yield between Cyclosome and other delivery systems. Others where half of what Cyclosome system delivered.

The only problem is (which is huge), it wasn’t a study. So, it very well could be a way to push products of Hi-Tech since they came out with the delivery system first.

 

[jtmass]

Here is a read. So, what they are saying is all the other Andros with no delivery system and which has 330mg as their serving size may not be even close to the potency of the ones with Cyclosome Delivery System. Plus, more side effects.

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Thoughts?

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Here is a read. So, what they are saying is all the other Andros with no delivery system and which has 330mg as their serving size may not be even close to the potency of the ones with Cyclosome Delivery System. Plus, more side effects.

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Thoughts?

Personally, I'd want the full dose (in mg), and then any enhanced delivery system is a bonus on top of that, not a replacement for it. We just don't know how well these delivery systems work for these specific ingredients, so I don't think we can rely on them with certainty to make lower doses as effective or more effective than normal doses. If they do improve the ingredients, then it'll be even better/stronger at the standard dose. Just my cursory $0.02 really. The same mg dose with enhanced delivery would likely be preferable though, as the "worst" case should be it not doing anything additional; it shouldn't make the product less effective, and may make it more effective, if the absorption enhancer does indeed work as claimed.

 

[jtmass]

Personally, I'd want the full dose (in mg), and then any enhanced delivery system is a bonus on top of that, not a replacement for it. We just don't know how well these delivery systems work for these specific ingredients, so I don't think we can rely on them with certainty to make lower doses as effective or more effective than normal doses. If they do improve the ingredients, then it'll be even better/stronger at the standard dose. Just my cursory $0.02 really. The same mg dose with enhanced delivery would likely be preferable though, as the "worst" case should be it not doing anything additional; it shouldn't make the product less effective, and may make it more effective, if the absorption enhancer does indeed work as claimed.

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[muscleupcrohn]

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[Tank007]

I don’t remember where I read it. But, it basically said, Cyclosome delivery system is King. And also showed the difference in yield between Cyclosome and other delivery systems. Others where half of what Cyclosome system delivered.

The only problem is (which is huge), it wasn’t a study. So, it very well could be a way to push products of Hi-Tech since they came out with the delivery system first.

Key thing to pay attention to is at the top of that page in very small print, "Disclosure - This is a sponsored post."

 

[musclemaker]

I don’t remember where I read it. But, it basically said, Cyclosome delivery system is King. And also showed the difference in yield between Cyclosome and other delivery systems. Others where half of what Cyclosome system delivered.

The only problem is (which is huge), it wasn’t a study. So, it very well could be a way to push products of Hi-Tech since they came out with the delivery system first.

Here is a read. So, what they are saying is all the other Andros with no delivery system and which has 330mg as their serving size may not be even close to the potency of the ones with Cyclosome Delivery System. Plus, more side effects.

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Thoughts?

Studies are always key but I think we all know that you can always pick studies that support your thesis, at the end of the day actual results are what really matter.

Just giving my take since I think we can offer a bit of a different perspective as we are retailer and carry a bunch of different products and we get a lot of feedback on all of them. It's not just about reviews that are posted on our site but the conversations our team has with customers (which they have a lot of).

Dosage has always been the common denominator for customers when it comes to results. Again, hard to judge delivery system since pretty much every 1-andro product has used some sort of delivery system.

Personally, I'd want the full dose (in mg), and then any enhanced delivery system is a bonus on top of that, not a replacement for it. We just don't know how well these delivery systems work for these specific ingredients, so I don't think we can rely on them with certainty to make lower doses as effective or more effective than normal doses. If they do improve the ingredients, then it'll be even better/stronger at the standard dose. Just my cursory $0.02 really. The same mg dose with enhanced delivery would likely be preferable though, as the "worst" case should be it not doing anything additional; it shouldn't make the product less effective, and may make it more effective, if the absorption enhancer does indeed work as claimed.

I agree with this logic. Dosage first, especially since we are dealing with orals.

 

[PyroAsylum]

I've had good results with chosen 1 but im running it with abnormal and brutal 4ce. Honestly the stack isnt worth what you pay for it. I suggest you guys check out advancedsupps.com. It doesnt stock blackstone products but has everything else including some sarms at decent prices. My PCT is lacking im just running OTC products. Im definitely going to try to get some nolva for my next cycle.