Celtitren Cycle Log

Hyde said:
I can't see cutting longer than 6 wks ever a good thing anyway - if you need more than 6wks at a time to drop some significant bf off, you need to be on anabolics to prevent that for sure.

Which also begs the question why you got so fat in the first place to need longer than 6 wks of hard dieting & Clen use to see changes that are good enough to satisfy, ya know?

You're really lean now, so I can't really say how long it would take to shed fat at such a low bf % already.
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Yeah that's some profound thoughts there man! Well I could tighten up my diet a long ways rite now. I'm shooting for 350-400 carbs each day and tons of fat. I could tweak my carb types and amounts and timing quite a bit before I'd be maxed out. Rite now I try to get enough carbs for growth. Not tons of simple sugars but anytime post workout I don't care what they are. I'm a believer in carb back loading. So there is room for improvement definitely. Mainly I try to eat healthy and let my metabolism fill.in the gaps
 
Hope to get in a good workout tomorrow. And weigh myself and see how I'm doing there. Got Hemavol and Mr. Hyde preworkout to throw together for some brutal pumps
 
You ever use that stuff? I'm scared to, it has like 400-450mg of caffeine/scoop AND several other stims...couple guys I know who love the high stim pres love it tho, and say taste is great to boot.

How'd your longass drive go bro?
 
Hyde said:
You ever use that stuff? I'm scared to, it has like 400-450mg of caffeine/scoop AND several other stims...couple guys I know who love the high stim pres love it tho, and say taste is great to boot.

How'd your longass drive go bro?
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Damn. My on-cycle blood pressure would explode a freaking ventricle.
 
Dood my bp was so high for me on Msten and 1/4/19 dhea - it went from 122/60 at the doc off cycle to like 152 over 65 on.
 
Hyde said:
You ever use that stuff? I'm scared to, it has like 400-450mg of caffeine/scoop AND several other stims...couple guys I know who love the high stim pres love it tho, and say taste is great to boot.

How'd your longass drive go bro?
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Well I just slammed a scoop of each for blood flow and recreational purposes :-) felt fine to me. But I love caffeine and my blood pressure has never spiked. At least not when I've checked it. And last time I did I had a crap load of preworkout in my system. Bout 400 of caffeine and then yohimbe and all the goodies. never used it before today. And as far as the drive I'm still driving. Went thru Las Vegas and spent the night there on the strip and drove through L.A. today and now heading north. Another 5 hours to go and we're done. Decided to take a southerly route. Had a snowstorm from Nebraska till 3 hours past Denver. That sucked
 
Hyde said:
Dood my bp was so high for me on Msten and 1/4/19 dhea - it went from 122/60 at the doc off cycle to like 152 over 65 on.
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Yeah that sucks. Does your heart rate noticeably go up? For me caffeine feels crazy and good in my head and energy in the muscles but heart rate never jacks or anything that I can tell. And then my wife is different. Caffeine makes her heart go pitterpatter. Or else I make her do that :-D lol
 
On cycle big doses of stim do, and when I got up to 28mg of msten e/d with 6 tabs of 4ad & 6 1-alpha w 3 decaSARM the last few days I just felt bad, headaches & could tell bp was way high, and hadn't been using preworkout since I started the msten. That ****'s all you need; msten at 12mg preworkout was a good kick in the pants to lift. Not a stim surge, just alert & vascular as hell & tough as nails feeling.
 
Hyde said:
On cycle big doses of stim do, and when I got up to 28mg of msten e/d with 6 tabs of 4ad & 6 1-alpha w 3 decaSARM the last few days I just felt bad, headaches & could tell bp was way high, and hadn't been using preworkout since I started the msten. That ****'s all you need; msten at 12mg preworkout was a good kick in the pants to lift. Not a stim surge, just alert & vascular as hell & tough as nails feeling.
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I hear you. I should try a lower dose Msten just for the drive. I didn't like it at 20-30 for mass building.
 
If I ran Sten again I'd run 30mg for 20-30 days; solo or with a base of stano/4ad. Trestobol might be too much to control as I'm gyno prone, and the fact its methyl makes me wanna avoid it w/ a dimethyl. Msten definitely darkened my urine even on a g of TUDCA & 600mg of SAMe e/d, plus a couple liv52. Should probably fit fine with your tvar though, I just wouldn't use anything else if you do unless you needed some stano.

But I've got M1A and DMZ and Sdrol to play with yet, and have a legit source of Dbol so that's an idea too. So msten won't be in the mix for a long time if so. And if CL comes out with a pro-halotestin I'm gonna crap with excitement.
 
Hell, they seem to have everything on the market or in the works just short of the cure for cancer.
 
Hyde said:
If I ran Sten again I'd run 30mg for 20-30 days; solo or with a base of stano/4ad. Trestobol might be too much to control as I'm gyno prone, and the fact its methyl makes me wanna avoid it w/ a dimethyl. Msten definitely darkened my urine even on a g of TUDCA & 600mg of SAMe e/d, plus a couple liv52. Should probably fit fine with your tvar though, I just wouldn't use anything else if you do unless you needed some stano.

But I've got M1A and DMZ and Sdrol to play with yet, and have a legit source of Dbol so that's an idea too. So msten won't be in the mix for a long time if so. And if CL comes out with a pro-halotestin I'm gonna crap with excitement.
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You ever take ALA? I always do and urine is clear as long as I'm hydrated. Its more liver help than anything. And yeah pro-halotestin would be fun for you especially since your a powerlifter eh?
 
And I just managed a dumbbell only bicep workout and I can say my preworkout combo is some inSANE pumps and vascularity! Love it
 
Lol. Consider me in on the presale.
 
Today is the day I'm deciding to throw in M1,4ADD now. I'll see how that and Tren act together and if its good I mite run 20 days of it. If its scary I'll drop it. I figure to run it at 90 for starters with TUDCA, Cycle Support, and ALA. Also Aromasin. Going to be fun. So far bodyweight hasn't budged from 187.5. Not putting on a lot of weight with the Tren. But it feels good.
 
tinytony said:
You ever take ALA? I always do and urine is clear as long as I'm hydrated. Its more liver help than anything. And yeah pro-halotestin would be fun for you especially since your a powerlifter eh?
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I never have, will def check it out now tho. At least worth a look right? And you got the idea with Halotestin - from my limited reading it really jacks up rbc and the muscles ability to utilize oxygen, so that's where the temporary & righteous gains in strength are. Aggression is supposed to be totally volatile as well; as such just using 10-20mg preworkout only stacked into another cycle is enough to see a large benefit. It's not supposed to cause virtually ANY protein synthesis; it is literally used for bull-headed aggression with the weights and jacked up work capacity. Most gains in performance will not likely be retained post cycle, but it's great for competition. Strongmen love it too for same reasons.
 
tinytony said:
Today is the day I'm deciding to throw in M1,4ADD now. I'll see how that and Tren act together and if its good I mite run 20 days of it. If its scary I'll drop it. I figure to run it at 90 for starters with TUDCA, Cycle Support, and ALA. Also Aromasin. Going to be fun. So far bodyweight hasn't budged from 187.5. Not putting on a lot of weight with the Tren. But it feels good.
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Shredded Labs had a product called methylvar when they came to market - trenavar & m1,4add - Mack ran it and logged it, went 6 wks I believe and got up to 120 or 150 mg of m14add e/d (I believe 120, and tvar wasn't as high as yours tho). Most ppl need 90-120 on the stuff they say, so 90s a great start. They always recommend going 5-6 wks like epi to reap full gains, although 4 couldn't hurt. Mack had some nosebleeds at end of cycle so expect bp to jack up (he's on 1/2g of test now and just finished methadrol extreme and hasn't mentioned any nosebleeds so thinking m14add is fairly harsh on bp).
 
Hyde said:
I never have, will def check it out now tho. At least worth a look right? And you got the idea with Halotestin - from my limited reading it really jacks up rbc and the muscles ability to utilize oxygen, so that's where the temporary & righteous gains in strength are. Aggression is supposed to be totally volatile as well; as such just using 10-20mg preworkout only stacked into another cycle is enough to see a large benefit. It's not supposed to cause virtually ANY protein synthesis; it is literally used for bull-headed aggression with the weights and jacked up work capacity. Most gains in performance will not likely be retained post cycle, but it's great for competition. Strongmen love it too for same reasons.
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Yeah look up Alpha Lipoic Acid and study everything you can get your hands on. I've used it solo for liver support on cycle. My uncle has a trashed liver due to some cholesterol medication the doc gave him he thinks. Anyway he's almost to the point of needing a transplant and doctor has him taking ALA and once or twice a year for last couple years he goes to phoenix and gets ALA IV . its what's keeping him alive pretty much man. I've read a lot about it and there are good studies and yet its amazing nobody on here takes it. I mean I see the odd guy that does it but its rare! And ID love to try that PH. It might clash with my nature though because I have a bit of a temper that I have to try to control.
 
Hyde said:
Shredded Labs had a product called methylvar when they came to market - trenavar & m1,4add - Mack ran it and logged it, went 6 wks I believe and got up to 120 or 150 mg of m14add e/d (I believe 120, and tvar wasn't as high as yours tho). Most ppl need 90-120 on the stuff they say, so 90s a great start. They always recommend going 5-6 wks like epi to reap full gains, although 4 couldn't hurt. Mack had some nosebleeds at end of cycle so expect bp to jack up (he's on 1/2g of test now and just finished methadrol extreme and hasn't mentioned any nosebleeds so thinking m14add is fairly harsh on bp).
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Yeah I ran it a short 20 day cycle before and loved it but I have enough to go forever if I want to:-) it packs on weight in a hurry. Its partly water but with Aromasin that should be partly controlled. And there is a guy called Diplomats on here that I found his cycle of M1,4ADD and its phenomenal. He cycled some of the harshest stuff at tremendous doses. Hasn't posted in awhile (like a few years) as far as I can tell so idk if he's alive to tell about it.
 
Excited to see where this goes for you, stuff always made me curious. Seems like the biggest gainer you can run safely for 6wks. But I wonder since I have access to dbol if I should just go straight for that instead if I was gonna run it?
 
Hyde said:
Excited to see where this goes for you, stuff always made me curious. Seems like the biggest gainer you can run safely for 6wks. But I wonder since I have access to dbol if I should just go straight for that instead if I was gonna run it?
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I think I'd go for Dbol. But I'm not willing to cross over yet lol. Dbol would be cleaner. I have a feeling M1,4 is a bit dirtier if you know what I mean. Its supposed to convert to Dbol but you get so much weight and vascularity that it must be pretty active on its own. I know they say it is but its kind of bro science. If you were to run M1,4 at 150 you could gain 25 lbs I think. Might lose some of it but its freaking potent
 
Hyde said:
If I ran Sten again I'd run 30mg for 20-30 days; solo or with a base of stano/4ad. Trestobol might be too much to control as I'm gyno prone, and the fact its methyl makes me wanna avoid it w/ a dimethyl. Msten definitely darkened my urine even on a g of TUDCA & 600mg of SAMe e/d, plus a couple liv52. Should probably fit fine with your tvar though, I just wouldn't use anything else if you do unless you needed some stano.

But I've got M1A and DMZ and Sdrol to play with yet, and have a legit source of Dbol so that's an idea too. So msten won't be in the mix for a long time if so. And if CL comes out with a pro-halotestin I'm gonna crap with excitement.
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Pro-halotestin I'll look into it for you. Also the 7-methyl on trest doesn't make it toxic, it's 17a methylation that is generally the culprit...
 
Some quick googling says halotestin is pretty much just good for making you super angry/increasing gym aggression. Not much of a muscle builder...
 
I have some new veins that I haven't seen before on my upper forearms. I'm stoked about that. I'm not sure what's causing it because my diet has stayed pretty much the same. Maybe its the Tren, I'm just happy for these developments because I'm not a big veins guy. Never have been. No matter what my body fat % is and no matter how thin my skin is my veins are these little diameter things that I'm never proud of. And Im on vaso enhancing crap all flippin day. My little brother has the big veins on his arms that are three times as big as mine and we are about the same body fat. Guess I'm cursed lol. Its why I love gear I guess. Big veins. Maybe i should get my body fat down to 2% . ok there's my ramble for the day
 
nostrum420 said:
Some quick googling says halotestin is pretty much just good for making you super angry/increasing gym aggression. Not much of a muscle builder...
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halotstin makes people strong as fuark though. powerlifters use it pre comp

you can start smoking for bigger veins dude. i joke
 
The raws would be quite expensive I think the end product might end up being more expensive than it's worth unfortunately... it's the fluoxy group...
 
I'm thinking maybe some GH would help me with veins.. it seems to make some really snakey ones on some people. But to the point of bizarre.
 
Based on what I've been led to believe, copious amounts of GH will help pretty much everything.
 
My veins are like pantyhose. There are puny but stretch enormous proportions to let big stuff through and when that's over, ping, they're small again
 
nostrum420 said:
The raws would be quite expensive I think the end product might end up being more expensive than it's worth unfortunately... it's the fluoxy group...
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That sucks, but there is a market - powerlifters & strongmen used it for years. Most guys need to get REALLY worked up to hoist their true maxes - who the f ever lifted a tire off someone trapped beneath a car calmly, aye? Halo was used to let the bull out of the cage, and people claim incredible strength increases on it. More than anadrol.

If it ever comes to market, I'm in lol
 
Cleaning, painting and moving into my new house today. That's good but the clamp it puts on training isn't. This will pass and boy I'll be tearing it up again.
 
Back to the iron grind! Deads only tonight
Warm up and then first working set at
225×12
295×11
345×8
365×5. No it a long workout but since it was my first heavy in a bit it is really tearing into my back. Feels good! Trying to get my back strength up there with the rest of you big boys :-)
 
You picked up the bar...keep picking it up for a rep here, 5lbs added there, and it all comes together in time.

Sometimes I get anxiety before I lift a heavy set, especially squat. Then I tell realize that's its just the same thing I've practiced a thousand times - ain't nothin' to it but ta do it! lol
 
haha ifukin knew you had bigger deads in you. this is me noddinng my head with the biggest i toldz you so face ever
 
Hyde said:
You picked up the bar...keep picking it up for a rep here, 5lbs added there, and it all comes together in time.

Sometimes I get anxiety before I lift a heavy set, especially squat. Then I tell realize that's its just the same thing I've practiced a thousand times - ain't nothin' to it but ta do it! lol
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Yeah same here .. :-)
 
Chest tonight. Heavy barbell only
Warmup set of 25 reps and then moved to
225×13
275×10
315×3.5 lol
Then declines
225×10
245×6. Short tests actually even tho heavier. Rests at 60-90 seconds. Big pump but a totally different style of working out today. Slept very little last night but still felt pretty strong after a day at work.
 
Bis and tris today. No energy but tried to get a pump anyways. Tomorrow is legs and last day of work for the week so going to try to hammer legs bloody hard. Should be good workout. I'm sick of working on the roof in summer heat
 
Sucks you had no energy, but great thing about that is it can't be any worse in the gym tomorrow - likely much better!

BTW, was at wally the other day and picked up some Alpha Lipoic Acid at your recommendation. Been running it for a couple days now, gonna kill the bottle to help support my health thru pct (why not?). How many mg you usually run?
 
Hyde said:
Sucks you had no energy, but great thing about that is it can't be any worse in the gym tomorrow - likely much better!

BTW, was at wally the other day and picked up some Alpha Lipoic Acid at your recommendation. Been running it for a couple days now, gonna kill the bottle to help support my health thru pct (why not?). How many mg you usually run?
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Yeah that's one way to look at it! I take 600 minimum. At least on cycle. On cycle I shoot for 800-1200. Its supposed to have some nutrient partitioning effect at 600 and above also.
 
Hyde said:
Sucks you had no energy, but great thing about that is it can't be any worse in the gym tomorrow - likely much better!

BTW, was at wally the other day and picked up some Alpha Lipoic Acid at your recommendation. Been running it for a couple days now, gonna kill the bottle to help support my health thru pct (why not?). How many mg you usually run?
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P.S. it usually makes your urine smell like burnt rubber so don't be alarmed lol
 
Delts and traps instead today.
Dumbbell warmups. 2 sets of 20 lb dumbbells 25 reps and 15 reps.
barbell press supersetting lateral felt work between each set if barbell work.
115×12
135×10 half of the reps behind head
135×8 half of the reps behind head.
30 lb dumbbell 15 reps. Delts supersets were 10lb each side × 15 reps
20 lb ×8
Then hit side, front, and rear delts 10 reps each of 10 lbs each side for a total of two rounds. This heat takes it out of me so I mix it up for the best pump I can get with the energy I have to deal with. Felt lethargic today because I was curious if some letro I had was real or bunk so the last couple evenings I used myself as a Guinea pig and took .5 mg of it with my aromasin and the last two days the lethargy has killed. Yesterday I thought I was just tired but its the same thing all over again as when I stacked Msten and Epi. And skin is paper and so I guess I have my answer. Its legit. And as of last bight I'm not taking anymore until the day comes when I have boobies.. When I added in M1,4 ADD my bodyweight was 187.5ish and as of tonight after a week or so on M1,4 and with the letro and Aromasin in my veins and having sweated buckets at work, I weigh 190. And that's not a flippin lot of water retention with my AI doing their work.. Still on celtitren at 150 per day. M1,4 at 120 since day one. Urine clear as glass. Except of cource when my multivitamin roars thru then its green.
 
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