Unanswered Cel Stano-Plex +?

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Hi All,

I am 29 years old and have been lifting seriously since I was 18. I just finished up a nice 90 day cut, have settled in maintenance for the last couple months but now I am ready to start bulking.

I have never done a stack before so I'd like to hear from you. I just picked up a bottle of Cel Stano-Plex. What should I pair this with? I'm looking to keep it oral but other then that I am pretty open to your recommendations.

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Def pick up another bottle

And it is very stackable .. how hardcore do you want to go ? Or want like a soft ph + natural muscle builder ?

A lot are stacking it with 8 weeks of stano + 8 weeks anabolic effect
 

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Pick up second bottle run 900 mg for 40 days.
Thanks for the quick response. I'll pick up another one today then and run them at 900mg.


Def pick up another bottle

And it is very stackable .. how hardcore do you want to go ? Or want like a soft ph + natural muscle builder ?

A lot are stacking it with 8 weeks of stano + 8 weeks anabolic effect
Awesome. Picking up another bottle since this seems to the general consensus. Since this is my first time, I don't want to go super hardcore yet. A soft PH + Natural sounds like a good introduction if you have any recommendations!
 

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Okay- so I just ended up ordering the Anabolic Effect + Stano Plex + MTest and SNS Growth Factor XT package. Seemed like an awesome deal since it included the Stano and the Anabolic Effect that I was recommended.

I think I should be covered but let me know your thoughts!

 
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Thanks for the quick response. I'll pick up another one today then and run them at 900mg.




Awesome. Picking up another bottle since this seems to the general consensus. Since this is my first time, I don't want to go super hardcore yet. A soft PH + Natural sounds like a good introduction if you have any recommendations!
Agree with this 100%... for an amazing but super mild stack this combo is unbeatable!
 
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Awesome. I’m really looking forward to it. Appreciate the input.
if you decide to log it, or even just put up some feedback, please feel free to tag myself or any of the other reps here so we can follow along!
 
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...you’ll need a 2nd Mandro
Unless he's looking to run the epi above 1g, but that was my immediate thought as well. You need to run the 1-andro for 6-8 weeks for the gains. At 4 weeks, all you're really doing is just suppressing yourself.
 

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1000 stano is the sweet spot. Seen plenty more and no liver enzymes out of range(non methyl)
Super mild stuff with some great energy, and leaning/hardening effects.
Any point to running this with strong compounds like dbol , winny,DMZ , Msten or the DMZ Msten combo or even with tren ? Or maybe just as a bridge in between serious cycles while on TRT ?
 
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Any point to running this with strong compounds like dbol , winny,DMZ , Msten or the DMZ Msten combo or even with tren ? Or maybe just as a bridge in between serious cycles while on TRT ?
It's Epiandro.
 
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Any point to running this with strong compounds like dbol , winny,DMZ , Msten or the DMZ Msten combo or even with tren ? Or maybe just as a bridge in between serious cycles while on TRT ?
IMO it might help in the slightest when stacking with something natty or extremely mild but it wouldn’t be much you’d notice, especially with those compounds. I ran a short cycle recently of 1 Andro (330mg)/EpiAndro (900mg) hoping it would combat the lethargy/libido issues and it did nothing noticeable for that in the slightest; both caused me to end it at 4 weeks. I wouldn’t bother
 

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It's Epiandro.
I know , I get the point , I've just never tried it , and people talk about like it does some mild decent stuff, but then others talk about like it's nothing. And what about the last part ? It's better than nothing in between serious cycles on TRT , sooooo..........

Not that I take many breaks from using stuff , but I'm planning to in the future to save a little money and because it's healthier.
 
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I know , I get the point , I've just never tried it , and people talk about like it does some mild decent stuff, but then others talk about like it's nothing. And what about the last part ? It's better than nothing in between serious cycles on TRT , so......
I wasn't putting it down necessarily. I was just making sure everybody knew what it was.
 
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Any point to running this with strong compounds like dbol , winny,DMZ , Msten or the DMZ Msten combo or even with tren ? Or maybe just as a bridge in between serious cycles while on TRT ?
i love running it along hardcore stuff. .. I have found nothing that brings the same "in work out realisation of strength" if that makes sense.. its like all the other stuff works.. no doubt, but when i add in a high dose of epi I get these notions of my own strength while lifting.. It makes me very confident and strong.. noticably strong cause you can "realise it" i dont know if that came out the way i meant it lol
 
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EpiAndro is what every “test booster” claims to be. Definite instant strength and aggression...swagger...I’m certain women can smell it...

Took about 750mg for me...but it did raise blood pressure and slight hair shedding.
 
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IMO it might help in the slightest when stacking with something natty or extremely mild but it wouldn’t be much you’d notice, especially with those compounds. I ran a short cycle recently of 1 Andro (330mg)/EpiAndro (900mg) hoping it would combat the lethargy/libido issues and it did nothing noticeable for that in the slightest; both caused me to end it at 4 weeks. I wouldn’t bother
nothing helps lethargy as good as ending a cycle.
 

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Alright ya'll. So I ended up doing this stack and wanted to quickly write an update.

I ended up starting this back in September, but a week later I was approached for a new job opportunity in a new city so I stopped. I traveled a bit, moved, started a new job, and picked this back up on January 2nd running 900mg stano once I got settled. Pretty quickly I leaned out again (also from being back on my meal plan), was hitting PRs regularly, recovered well and my cardio kicked back up very quickly. I could definitely see an increase in performance and aesthetics.

I know that some of the benefits were just from being back in a routine with meals and the gym but I wouldn't have ramped as quickly without this stack.

Question: How much time between cycles would you recommend if I wanted to go a 2nd time?

Cc @booneman77
 
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Alright ya'll. So I ended up doing this stack and wanted to quickly write an update.

I ended up starting this back in September, but a week later I was approached for a new job opportunity in a new city so I stopped. I traveled a bit, moved, started a new job, and picked this back up on January 2nd running 900mg stano once I got settled. Pretty quickly I leaned out again (also from being back on my meal plan), was hitting PRs regularly, recovered well and my cardio kicked back up very quickly. I could definitely see an increase in performance and aesthetics.

I know that some of the benefits were just from being back in a routine with meals and the gym but I wouldn't have ramped as quickly without this stack.

Question: How much time between cycles would you recommend if I wanted to go a 2nd time?

Cc @booneman77
general rule of thumb most follows

Cycle length + PCT length = time off to start a new cycle

ex .. 8 week epi andro cycle + 4 week pct = 12 weeks
 
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Alright ya'll. So I ended up doing this stack and wanted to quickly write an update.

I ended up starting this back in September, but a week later I was approached for a new job opportunity in a new city so I stopped. I traveled a bit, moved, started a new job, and picked this back up on January 2nd running 900mg stano once I got settled. Pretty quickly I leaned out again (also from being back on my meal plan), was hitting PRs regularly, recovered well and my cardio kicked back up very quickly. I could definitely see an increase in performance and aesthetics.

I know that some of the benefits were just from being back in a routine with meals and the gym but I wouldn't have ramped as quickly without this stack.

Question: How much time between cycles would you recommend if I wanted to go a 2nd time?

Cc @booneman77
Did you run any kind of PCT?
 
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I did not run a PCT. I just ran this: Anabolic Effect + Stano Plex + MTest. Since it was super mild, I figured it wasn't needed and didn't notice any negative side effects once I stopped.

still run a pct and give some time off .. if reacting well to it .. continue to run Mtest ( some i know run it all year along)
AE run for 12weeks
Mtest can run long as you want and can throw in reduceXT to help even lean out more in pct and will help with your cortisol levels

pct for stano can be quite fun ..which is why i love the product itself
 
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Yeah, OP. I've seen posts from/talked to numerous guys on this board who ran an Anabolic/Androgenic substance who didn't run a PCT because they felt like it didn't really suppress them, and they didn't need one. ..... Only to find out later that they were wrong, and never properly recovered.
 

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Thanks @GQdaLEGEND and @Renew1. Appreciate your advice. I'll take some time off and will run a PCT on the next go around. Looking forward to running it again for the summer!
 
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These guys are correct, you should at least keep running the M-Test for a month or so after the cycle and take at least 12wks total off between stano cycles (you can run the m-test and anabolic effect in between)
 
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These guys are correct, you should at least keep running the M-Test for a month or so after the cycle and take at least 12wks total off between stano cycles (you can run the m-test and anabolic effect in between)
Does AE+Mtest count as time off or does clock start after that too?
 
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Does AE+Mtest count as time off or does clock start after that too?
Dear Kenny muthafckin powers .. general rule of thumb

Cycle + pct = time off you should be taking

But can continue to run mtest all the time until next cycle will work :)
 
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Dear Kenny muthafckin powers .. general rule of thumb

Cycle + pct = time off you should be taking

But can continue to run mtest all the time until next cycle will work :)
did we just become best friends? lol

I did a few weeks of nolva after my mtest cycle, then switched to AE+mtest (8 weeks into 12 week run) wasnt sure if it was official PCT
 
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did we just become best friends? lol

I did a few weeks of nolva after my mtest cycle, then switched to AE+mtest (8 weeks into 12 week run) wasnt sure if it was official PCT
pct is really just the time you;re taking your serm to recover. once you're done, the clock starts for "time off"

you can totally run natural stuff like AE/M-Test during that off time (thats what most do to maximize that time)
 

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