Unanswered CEL Stano-Plex 300 Intro

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Yeah man, the stiff dose of ashwaghanda makes me feel pretty crappy, slow, stupid, and groggy. I appreciate the level of studies on it, and the fact that it's pretty much gold for most people, and overall m-test is 1) stacked with proven ingredients, 2) economical, and 3) actually good for health overall, on so many levels. It sucks that it doesn't work for me, haha.
 
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Yeah man, the stiff dose of ashwaghanda makes me feel pretty crappy, slow, stupid, and groggy. I appreciate the level of studies on it, and the fact that it's pretty much gold for most people, and overall m-test is 1) stacked with proven ingredients, 2) economical, and 3) actually good for health overall, on so many levels. It sucks that it doesn't work for me, haha.
i'm gonna post up a ongoing log review of pct assist...
 
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Yeah man, the stiff dose of ashwaghanda makes me feel pretty crappy, slow, stupid, and groggy. I appreciate the level of studies on it, and the fact that it's pretty much gold for most people, and overall m-test is 1) stacked with proven ingredients, 2) economical, and 3) actually good for health overall, on so many levels. It sucks that it doesn't work for me, haha.
Are you taking all 6 caps at once? 600mg of KSM-66 does the SAME for me. Can't take it. But 3 and 3 morning/night is PERFECT.
 
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Haha, no suggestions at all, just trying to get a feel for what people are doing. There's seems to be no consensus on using a serm or not.
 
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Haha, no suggestions at all, just trying to get a feel for what people are doing. There's seems to be no consensus on using a serm or not.
There is no consensus...

IMO, this is a case where the use of a SERM in PCT would likely put your body and hormones through more stress than the actual prohormone (epiandro) itself would. People tend to run SERMs with a “may as well be safe” attitude and forget the fact that they often leave you with their own set of hormonal disturbances. Reduced IGF-1, increased E2, increased SHBG, and lingering libido/performance challenges being quite common and predictable. Then those people are posting on here asking about what they can take next to deal with that crap.

SERMs certainly have their place and I have used them many times. However, if somebody isn’t able to recover from a cycle of Epiandro without the use of a SERM, there was likely some degree of HPTA dysfunction already present to begin with. People forget that a normally functioning HPTA does have the ability to recover without introducing further hormone altering drugs.
 

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I agree Ricky.
I never use SERM's post mild cycles like Epiandro or 11oxo for example and I have also done Epistane,Hdrol and Pmag back in the years with otc pct.
Have not done any bloods but I know my body very well, testicles, energy level, libido, mood..... everithing is coming back to normal and I don't want to put more drugs in my body what's necessary.
 
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I agree Ricky.
I never use SERM's post mild cycles like Epiandro or 11oxo for example and I have also done Epistane,Hdrol and Pmag back in the years with otc pct.
Have not done any bloods but I know my body very well, testicles, energy level, libido, mood..... everithing is coming back to normal and I don't want to put more drugs in my body what's necessary.
Serms are for the weak
Of course I say all this after having just completed a SERM (Toremifene), but I was running multiple compounds. It’s not a pleasant experience to use any of them, and you would never catch me using a SERM after simply using an epiandro and/or androstene cycle.,
 

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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?
 

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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?
 
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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?
4 weeks should be good, if your continuing to see gains in post cycle extend it to 8 weeks. While you don’t need to continue the cycle assist it certainly would not hurt.
 
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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?

pct can be 4 weeks .. but i prefer 8 weeks ..plus will give you more time and more steady gains until next cycle.
 
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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?
I get the point of the M-test for PCT, but is there a benefit to running it at the same time as stano? I thought epi was supressive so would the M-test actually be doing anything? I'm asking because I'm interested in the triple stack but unsure if M-test should be used during or after for more benefit. Anyone have an opinion on the best way to run these together?
 
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I get the point of the M-test for PCT, but is there a benefit to running it at the same time as stano? I thought epi was supressive so would the M-test actually be doing anything? I'm asking because I'm interested in the triple stack but unsure if M-test should be used during or after for more benefit. Anyone have an opinion on the best way to run these together?
As epiandro is def one of the milder compounds, there certainly would be some help in regards to test levels. Without bloods for you personally to see how this affects you in particular it’s tough to say for sure though. Some might see suppression while other next to nothing.

For me, I plan to run it on and in pct just to help add any benefits (even outside of the test levels; sleep, mood, etc). Pct will just be a bit longer and have some other goodies as well to help but all OTC. Sns Reduce xt, cel anabolic effect, Sns pct assist and mtest for that.
 
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Hmm, I'll have to try that. Imnonenof the few who do not like m-test, ash makes me feels like crap. Love icariin though!
Everyone responds differently to different things. If you love Icariin, you should look into PCT Assist; I think the name throws some people off into thinking its just a PCT product but its also a great natural test booster.
 
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So I did 4wk Mtest and AE. Currently 2.5wk in on Mtest/AE/Stano/cycle assist. Goiyto do another 4wk the same and bump Stano to 3/day. Then I plan to run Mtest/AE/Pct assist. Should this be for 4 or 8wks and should I continue the Cycle assist with PCT?
I want to make sure I understand correctly.

You're doing a Stano-Plex 300 cycle in the middle of your M-Test and Anabolic Effect run?
Stano-Plex 300 really shines at an 8 week run in my opinion.
Yes, I would personally use Cycle Assist in PCT although some people may not would find it necessary because Stano-Plex 300 is considered milder in terms of sides than many of the things out there now.
 
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I get the point of the M-test for PCT, but is there a benefit to running it at the same time as stano? I thought epi was supressive so would the M-test actually be doing anything? I'm asking because I'm interested in the triple stack but unsure if M-test should be used during or after for more benefit. Anyone have an opinion on the best way to run these together?
I think that M-Test is great to run with Stano-Plex 300 because it serves as a good test base for the Stano.
Some people say that Epiandrosterone is mildly suppressive, others argue that it isn't.
I think M-Test is great to run on cycle and during PCT. That's how I plan on running it myself.

Sorry for the late reply; I haven't been on much in the last couple weeks.
 

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I want to make sure I understand correctly.

You're doing a Stano-Plex 300 cycle in the middle of your M-Test and Anabolic Effect run?
Stano-Plex 300 really shines at an 8 week run in my opinion.
Yes, I would personally use Cycle Assist in PCT although some people may not would find it necessary because Stano-Plex 300 is considered milder in terms of sides than many of the things out there now.
Correct 7wks on AE/Mtest and added Stano/cycle assist/ growth factor 3kws ago. Just placed my order today to do 4 more weeks of Stano @ 3ed/cycle assist/Mtest/growth factor.
 

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So why run M-Test with Stano? It contains Urtica Dioica which is supposed to lower DHT? I would think that’s counterproductive
 
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So why run M-Test with Stano? It contains Urtica Dioica which is supposed to lower DHT? I would think that’s counterproductive
In my opinion M-Test is a great natural testosterone base that can be used with Stano-Plex 300. If overly concerned about the DHT lowering properties of Stano-Plex, you can always space your dosages out away from Stano-Plex.
 

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I saw epiandro was listed on the list of banned supplements that China will no longer by exporting as of Jan 1.. do you guys anticipate any effects to stanoplex?
 
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I saw epiandro was listed on the list of banned supplements that China will no longer by exporting as of Jan 1.. do you guys anticipate any effects to stanoplex?
It's hard to speak for Chinese suppliers on things like this. There are some weird choices sometimes for what they do and don't export. Hopefully there won't be any supply issues but hard to say for sure at this time.
 
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Just a little update but I’m on week 5 running this (just two caps/day, morning and pre workout in the evening).

Highlights:
LIBIDO - which actually sucks cuz with all the holidays I’m pretty much either alone or with all the family when the wife is “available” ha.

Strength - nothing dramatic but up 5-10lb across the board with no or lower cals each day (balancing some VERY low days around the holidays to create a more overall balance).

Stamina - I actually seem to have an increase here. Even cardio seems a little easier.

Overall/general - gym motivation is through the roof and daily feel/mood is def elevated. Normally this is a SUPER high stress time for me because of the distance from where I spend the holidays and all the crazy running but my mood has been exceptional. Shockingly instead of getting frustrated super easy like I do on pretty much any aas this has been the opposite. I’m as chipper as can be ha (which the wife is enjoying).

I literally can’t say anything bad outside of the fact that I don’t have anything dramatic in terms of pumps in the gym but this is standard for me even with most pump supps simply due to my diet and training fasted for 16+hrs nearly every time.
 
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I wanted to let everyone know that Competitive Edge Labs is offering a 30% off New Years Sale from now thru Jan 4th.
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You can use that same code at both the SNS and Competitive Edge Labs websites and its applicable on all products, even already discounted stacks.

That makes the pricing on Stano-Plex 300 as follows:

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I'd jump on this ...but! I just got 2 bottles of Stano delivered, one of Epi-Plex and 2 bottles of BMP.
 
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Next big holiday sale would be july4th .. so yea stock up smart lol
 
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Epiandro or Epicatechin?
I would think epicat is what he’s thinking based on the natty anabolic convo. It makes sense though as epicat usually works well with most things outside maybe those that increase inflammation as their MOA
 
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CEL Stano Plex is phenomenal. I notice big time increased endurance and muscle hardness within the first week. Just started it for the second time and already so happy to be taking again. If you’re on the fence about it DO IT. You won’t regret it.
 
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Stano-plex is amazing .. 600mg feels amazing

Don’t know maybe I react well to vaso too

But I see other pple dosing 900-1200 from other co and not getting the effects like I did on just 2caps of this
 
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Same experience for me. This was my first go with something “OTC” so I wasn’t expecting much (especially compared to other ph’s I’ve used)... to say I was pleasantly surprised would be a massive understatement. It was stellar and I can’t wait to run it again.
 
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Same experience for me. This was my first go with something “OTC” so I wasn’t expecting much (especially compared to other ph’s I’ve used)... to say I was pleasantly surprised would be a massive understatement. It was stellar and I can’t wait to run it again.
Glad I wasn’t the only one .. swear it felt like taking epistane at 40mg minus the sides
 

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