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Cardio on 1andro epiandro

21marine

21marine

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Is it normal for these compounds to significantly impact cardio? I'm on week 3 of my cycle and typically run 3 miles in 27-28 minutes. Today I had trouble finishing two due to what I would call shin splints and averaged like 11 minutes per mile. It could also be that I thrashed my legs in the gym yesterday but I have done that before without a decline in cardio performance like this. In any event very happy with the stack so far.
 
It must have been you weren't fully recovered from your leg day. Last year I was on 1 andro/epiandro and the muscle endurance was nuts. Loved it.
 
Im on 1, 4, epi andro stack. 330, 330, 600. Cerberus v2.

I can't say there has been a decrease in cardio. I am however taking 7mg of cardarine with it...
 
The only thing I would recommend is some 4andro. Your gonna start feeling like chit very soon when your estrogen chrashes...
 
Jinsun said:
The only thing I would recommend is some 4andro. Your gonna start feeling like chit very soon when your estrogen chrashes...
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I was under the impression that the EpiAndro can be used as a test base and would take care of the lethargy and that there would be no need for 4andro.
 
21marine said:
I was under the impression that the EpiAndro can be used as a test base and would take care of the lethargy and that there would be no need for 4andro.
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That is partly true. Here is the whole truth :) a test base gives you two things: DHT and estrogen. Epiandro only gives you DHT but no estro. 4andro converts directly to test. Which in turn converts to estro and DHT. But and this is a big but, you need quite a lot of 4andro to produce normal levels of DHT and e2. And this is where the price of this andro's comes into play quite a lot... My opinion is that just pin some test. You are 100% suppressed from 1ad and epi so there is basically little reason to use test. Test + 1ad would be the best stack IMO no need for epi. With the money saved from epi and 4ad buy more 1ad and the results will be the best.

I'm never again buying these andro's. The price just doesn't make sense. A 250mg test + 50mg var cycle would give you better results and be cheaper at the same time.
 
Jinsun said:
That is partly true. Here is the whole truth :) a test base gives you two things: DHT and estrogen. Epiandro only gives you DHT but no estro. 4andro converts directly to test. Which in turn converts to estro and DHT. But and this is a big but, you need quite a lot of 4andro to produce normal levels of DHT and e2. And this is where the price of this andro's comes into play quite a lot... My opinion is that just pin some test. You are 100% suppressed from 1ad and epi so there is basically little reason to use test. Test + 1ad would be the best stack IMO no need for epi. With the money saved from epi and 4ad buy more 1ad and the results will be the best.

I'm never again buying these andro's. The price just doesn't make sense. A 250mg test + 50mg var cycle would give you better results and be cheaper at the same time.
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I agree with you man, the price of these things is a killer. I'm happy with my results so far but this will be my only run with the Andros.
 
Ran this morning and had no issues. Happy to report that my ****ty run time was from the leg thrashing in the gym and not the Andros!!
 
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