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Cardarine vs stack for cardio/HIIT

Kostas007

Kostas007

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Which is better for cardiovascular and HIIT?

Cardarine stand alone vs

Creatine (???)
Beta alanine (everyday)
Citrulline malate
Nitrates
Creatinol phosphate
Pnenylpiracetam/Adrafinil ???(for motivation energy)

Which one can bring better results?
 
Cardarine I love for endurance, but you don’t actually feel anything from it. As you do on beta alanine with the tingles or energy like the adrafinil.
On Cardarine I just noticed the second day I could long longer easier and boom I knew it was working.
 
Sniper9191 said:
Cardarine I love for endurance, but you don’t actually feel anything from it. As you do on beta alanine with the tingles or energy like the adrafinil.
On Cardarine I just noticed the second day I could long longer easier and boom I knew it was working.
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I don't care so much about feeling anything.

I care more what would bring better results for cardio endurance.

Cardarine or the stack I mentioned

By the way which company Cardarine did you use?
 
Is there anything new about the cardarine-cancer thing?

Has anyone died?How can we know what happens 1-20 years from now

I am really intrigued with this substance but all the talk about cancer keeps me from trying it.Some say it was megadosed for a prolong period of time.

Some say it was not megadosed if you make the calculation to human equivalent dose

Are the benefits acute(from day 1) or cumulative?
 
I’ve never thought about it not being dose equivalent to what we would take..that freaks me out a little
 
The studies done on rats that yielded cancer was equivalent to humans consuming 2400mg a day for 2 years.
 
mattwv said:
The studies done on rats that yielded cancer was equivalent to humans consuming 2400mg a day for 2 years.
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The rats took it for 2 years. You are upping the dose equivalent but not the time. 2 years for a rat is about 40% of its expected life so its the equivalent of 2400mg a day for about 30 years in a human.
 
Wobmarvel said:
The rats took it for 2 years. You are upping the dose equivalent but not the time. 2 years for a rat is about 40% of its expected life so its the equivalent of 2400mg a day for about 30 years in a human.
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Ah excellent point!! Thank you.
 
You are right but i am very concerned wherever i hear the word cancer

Anyway which from these two options i presented do you believe would actually improve cardio?

Cardarine vs stack?
 
I did Cardarine only, finished recently, and it helped alot.

I guess you can try both as it won't do any harm.
 
not true, after HED conversion the female rats were given 17mg per day.
I ran cardarine for a week, **** is so effective I had to start doing A LOT of research, none the less I stopped.
 
kirart94 said:
not true, after HED conversion the female rats were given 17mg per day.
I ran cardarine for a week, **** is so effective I had to start doing A LOT of research, none the less I stopped.
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So do you believe there is danger?

The HED you mentioned on the study with rats is very concerning
 
Absolutely,
I dont know if there are dangerous associated with using it for less than a week.
It starts really working by day 3, by day 4 you have unlimited cardio.
It doesn't stay with you.
 
Kostas007 said:
Which is better for cardiovascular and HIIT?

Cardarine stand alone vs

Creatine (???)
Beta alanine (everyday)
Citrulline malate
Nitrates
Creatinol phosphate
Pnenylpiracetam/Adrafinil ???(for motivation energy)

Which one can bring better results?
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To answer your original question.
Your list won't really do anything for your Cardio HIIT with regard to endurance.

The Cardarine is the only thing proven and as such banned by WADA.
It's a Research Chemical however, and you would be taking risks with your long-term health maybe. It's just a fact.
The product was shelved by the manufacturer for some reason, and it may or may not be related to the cancer study.

After watching numerous commercials with pharmaceuticals in them and the incredibly long list fast-talked at the end of the potential sides, I'm almost equally convinced they don't really care about anything except $.

I recall taking Follidrone 2.0 and improving my longevity in the gym a great deal and I have logs to show it.
My routine lasted under 40 minutes and I was doing an incredible amount of sets.

It is up to you what you put in your body.
 
I am currently researching FG 4592 as it seems to be very promising chemical. I Believe its in phase 3 trials and is submitted for approval next quater of the year. At least with this drug there are HUMAN studies.
 
kirart94 said:
I am currently researching FG 4592 as it seems to be very promising chemical. I Believe its in phase 3 trials and is submitted for approval next quater of the year. At least with this drug there are HUMAN studies.
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First time i hear its existence.Has it shown anything promising on cardio?
 
Honestly,
I have it on hand from china as prices are cheaper. I'm still nervous about it. Trying to wait until more news come up with the studies. I was suckered in by the guys on EVO and SARMS sites about safety of cardarine (my fault ) and have ran it for two weeks. It is an amazing compound but probably not worth pursuing.
 
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