warlordwrug
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Anybody here run it? All of the articles & reviews ive seen on it sounds & looks like a infomerical
Cardarine/GW-501516
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booneman77
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you could look for any of the tons of logs... you know, with the search function...
JSTR808
Banned
I love it! 15mg to get started for first month. See a 15% increase in cardio output and a solid 2% drop in body fat. Then I up to 20mg month 2 and 3. Another 8 to 10% increase in cardio output and another 1-2% drop in body fat. Receptors will need to rest, so 4 to 8 weeks off is ideal.
BamBam0319
Well-known member
Running it right now, less than a week in and already feel better.
warlordwrug
Member
How do you feel?I keep on hearing reports that some people become hypoglycemia when they take it. The articles I've read says it causes less carbs to be stored in adipose tissue & more in the skeletal muscle.
kushbush
New member
Im currently running cardarine with osta shred and nolvadex as a recomp/pct. After a dmz 2.0 0/1/2/4/6 alpha 1 1/2/2/2/2 cycle.
Super cardarine 30mg ed 8weeks
Osta shred 50mg armistane 25mg ostrine 8weeks
Nolvadex 40/20/20/10
Igf1 a possible for week 4-8
The only real sides cardarine has given me is light headedness which usually passes about 1 to 3 hours after my 15mg dose in the morning on an empty stomach. (Way better then clen shakes). The best way to keep from carb crashing through out the day is to keep rice cakes in your backpack you take every where. I prefer the apple ones because the extra sugar to spike your glycol levels if you feel really weird. Another side which i don't know if it's common is i seem to be losing a bunch of water which im fine with i also seem to be poopin alot more. I've been running it for 2weeks at this point the endurance and pumps it gives you if you dose 15mg 45mn to an hour before your lift on an empty stomach are very noticable within 2 to 3 days. So yes i would recommend this to someone that is not a begginer.
Super cardarine 30mg ed 8weeks
Osta shred 50mg armistane 25mg ostrine 8weeks
Nolvadex 40/20/20/10
Igf1 a possible for week 4-8
The only real sides cardarine has given me is light headedness which usually passes about 1 to 3 hours after my 15mg dose in the morning on an empty stomach. (Way better then clen shakes). The best way to keep from carb crashing through out the day is to keep rice cakes in your backpack you take every where. I prefer the apple ones because the extra sugar to spike your glycol levels if you feel really weird. Another side which i don't know if it's common is i seem to be losing a bunch of water which im fine with i also seem to be poopin alot more. I've been running it for 2weeks at this point the endurance and pumps it gives you if you dose 15mg 45mn to an hour before your lift on an empty stomach are very noticable within 2 to 3 days. So yes i would recommend this to someone that is not a begginer.
NoAddedHmones
Well-known member
You realise 25mg of osta is going to pretty much prevent any recovery of your test levels in pct right?
kushbush
New member
I've seen bloods that went both ways for people that ran it with a pct. I figured ill just get some bloods done at the end to see how i respond. My test seems to come back fairly quick because im still young. Worst case scenario ill just trt my self at 200mgs and hcg. But i do appreciate you lookin out man. But would your recommendation be the 12.5 mg of osta then ?
warlordwrug
Member
I'm actually thinking about running it on a bulk at 20mg-30mg. I want to see if this can compare to long lasting insulin like lantus/levemir
UncleSarm
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I second NoAddedHmones. Nolva raises your LH and FSH levels to stimulate test production. However, when I did a cycle of Osta at 25mg ED my pre-PCT bloods showed that my test levels were below the minimum level, even though my LH and FSH were well within normal range. Also, even though my test was low, I was feeling great. So Nolva may be doing its job, but the outcome might not what you expect it to be. And you will never know, because you will be feeling just fine.
Hopefully someone a little more knowledgeable than me will jump in, but I would suggest to either drop the Nolva and do the recomp, then come back to the Nolva, or drop the SARMs and do your PCT. Either way, Osta in PCT is probably not a great idea. Don't know about GW.
NoAddedHmones
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Just to add to this, any compound which is agonising the Androgen receptor is going to suppress natural androgen production. Its not an if or maybe, OP most of the blood work on these compounds that shows they aren't suppressive in PCT is most likely by someone with a vested interest in selling you these compounds *cough cough*.
jgntyce
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How long are you gonna run it and for how long a break till you start again?
JSTR808
Banned
I like 12 weeks on. I've been off for 3 weeks and noticed a slight drop in cardio output, but I'm also focusing on heavy lifting and raising my own testosterone naturally (cold shower therapy, ZMA, low rep-heavy weight, etc). I'll start my next Sarms in April, for a good 4 weeks, then add GW.
NoAddedHmones
Well-known member
Ok. Kind of goes back to my statement regarding people with vested interests right? what backing do they have for what the are saying? see the shameless plugging of their overpriced rubbish products included in the protocol.
UncleSarm
Well-known member
It *is* possible that there may be some people that are not suppressed into clinical deficiency. For example, assume I'm young and my natural test level was 1000g/dl. If Osta suppressed it by 400ng/dl, I would still be sitting at 600g/dl, which is actually higher than my pre-cycle baseline which was about 550ng/dl. So on paper, they look perfectly fine, test levels are good, but the values are not telling you the whole story. Which brings us back to NoAddedHmones ' point of whether these people have a vested interest or not.
warlordwrug
Member
Holy **** cardarine is nothing to play with. In my opinion it drops your blood sugar lower and quicker than levemir and lantus. I'm two days in I started at 20mg per day. Before starting my blood sugar levels was around 120-130 fasting. When using long lasting insulin it was around 65-80. Cardarine has me around 60-75. All levels were taken on waking up
dreamcrusher
Member
How did it make you feel?
dreamcrusher
Member
If you feel hypoglycemic, I assume you take some carbs with it?
yates84
Well-known member
I second this. No way that info isn't skewed or bias in some way. 25mg is an insane pct dose even if you did believe the hype. Just say no....to osta in pct
yates84
Well-known member
Yes, it's usually that simple to fix.
UncleSarm
Well-known member
^^^ This. My Osta cycle was 25mg and my T levels pre-PCT were around 125, well in the clinical deficiency range. I would not do Osta in PCT.
yates84
Well-known member
125!? Wow that is tanked...
UncleSarm
Well-known member
Yeah, that was definitely lower than expected, but I was taking 25mg, which is considered the highest dose. Unfortunately that is the dose that Osta Elite comes in, so I didn't have much of a choice. For my next cycle I'm thinking of trying a lower dose for maybe 8 weeks and see how I do with that.
Edit: my overall test was low, but because my SHBG was also low, my free test was in range, although on the low side.
Vikingbro
Active member
I have been using cardarine for 3 cycles now lasting a month each with 2 week breaks in between. I am also a Keto athlete as mentioned above and my total carb intake never exceeds 30g a day. I was scared to be honest to take it at first so tapered up slowly. Currently on 20mg. I have had no adverse effects and I will sometimes do 1.5 hours of hard cardio/HITT daily as well as weight sessions. Obviously everyone is different but I have had no blood sugar/hypo issues.
BamBam0319
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I don't either, for what it's worth.