Can we get more TST feedback?

Size,..not really. I actually had to make up for lost weight (2 pounds under my normal weight) when I started taking TST.
Strength, not really. I usually have to work a muscle group at least once while on before I notice anything, which takes about a week. Either that or it takes about a week to actually get strength increases.:bb:


Basicly, NORMALLY (or for the past few months) about 183lbs.
If Im eating a lot, I can get to 185, but thats not muscle really, just some fat, and food weight.
When supplementing with creatine or BCAAs maybe 185.5-6.
So, basicly, (as it has been lately) Im waiting (or hoping) I get to 187lbs before I start a log.
As bad as it dsounds, Ive been there (187) twice before, but each time I lost weight (when the funeral came up and I had to fly to Illinios & Got sick as hell one weekend, Had wisdom teeth pulled and bleed for 5 days % and last weekend drove to Alabama with the GF so she could visit her son/family before deployment) abd had to start over.
The last time I wasted away to 181!!!!! :rasp:

Last night I weighed in at 185. So, after stuffing my face, getting back to the gym, Im at the begining again- As of last night.
Like Ive mentioned before- Its been a hell of a month. Of course, **** like this always comes up the second you decide to cycle.
Ive had some good results (seemingly) with the Haladrol- got to 187, but I had to take so many of those under dosed caps that I went through a bottle in like 7 days, and my order took like 10 days before I saw it (actually, I ordered another bottle from Island, and got it in Monday).
So- All this half assing it (well, not all my fault) I figured I'd base a chem (TST) I havent used, because Im sure it will be a harder road now then a few weeks ago.
So- there is is, half the story- figured Id get most of it out now.
 
I have been doing H-50- TST- 8 MG, and have seen great results in overall lean mass and strength. I took 100 MG H-50 for 2 weeks and now am cycling down. I did consider doing 10 MG TST but did not know if it would be worth it. I just started Zol 150 MG's and will stay on that for 2 weeks. Has anybody taken more than 6 MG of TST? If so what were the results?
 
ICEBERG said:
I have been doing H-50- TST- 8 MG, and have seen great results in overall lean mass and strength. I took 100 MG H-50 for 2 weeks and now am cycling down. I did consider doing 10 MG TST but did not know if it would be worth it. I just started Zol 150 MG's and will stay on that for 2 weeks. Has anybody taken more than 6 MG of TST? If so what were the results?
That sounds like quite a bit. I took 2mg's with 4mg's of Mtrn and had BP issues. Of course I was taking all my support supps. How's your BP/ sides?
 
I have had no alarming sides. Everything is fine. Everybody is different. I know people who swear by Xmass and I got the worst acne, low libido,the whole 9 yards despite doing exactly what I am doing now. I am beginning to believe that blood types -mine is AB+ play a primary role in in determining how a body will respond to a product during a cycle. Another example is that back when the Andro Sprays were around- I used the Nor Andro and 4 AD from ErgoPharm and made some huge gains. My workout partner took it and he saw nothing. It was befuddling. He kept trying other products to get some type of edge and lo and behold the one product that finally worked for him was basic creatine. Creatine Monohydrate gave me the ****s and cramps but it gave him size, strength, and impressive gains. So, you see it just goes to show you that there is no blueprint for a body chemistry- we ourselves must learn what our body's need physically and mentally to achive our goals. I am lucky mostly all products work for me and the ones that won't- I know right off the bat. Plus, Dude you live in a place where it rains 65% of the time. Right? I would think my B/P would be elevated a lot more if I had to deal with that all the time. LOL
 
Sea223 said:
That sounds like quite a bit. I took 2mg's with 4mg's of Mtrn and had BP issues. Of course I was taking all my support supps. How's your BP/ sides?

The elevated blood pressure was from the trn not tst
 
joebo said:
The elevated blood pressure was from the trn not tst
Yeah the rain sucks but I've lived here my whole life. I'm also 20% BF- I'm going to lean out a bit and try again- May just try Tst alone because I have read about the trn raising it. Good luck to you all.
 
ICEBERG said:
I have had no alarming sides. Everything is fine. Everybody is different. I know people who swear by Xmass and I got the worst acne, low libido,the whole 9 yards despite doing exactly what I am doing now. I am beginning to believe that blood types -mine is AB+ play a primary role in in determining how a body will respond to a product during a cycle. Another example is that back when the Andro Sprays were around- I used the Nor Andro and 4 AD from ErgoPharm and made some huge gains. My workout partner took it and he saw nothing. It was befuddling. He kept trying other products to get some type of edge and lo and behold the one product that finally worked for him was basic creatine. Creatine Monohydrate gave me the ****s and cramps but it gave him size, strength, and impressive gains. So, you see it just goes to show you that there is no blueprint for a body chemistry- we ourselves must learn what our body's need physically and mentally to achive our goals. I am lucky mostly all products work for me and the ones that won't- I know right off the bat. Plus, Dude you live in a place where it rains 65% of the time. Right? I would think my B/P would be elevated a lot more if I had to deal with that all the time. LOL

Excellent post I agree completely, everyone responds differently. I honestly think 4-ad was the best PH ever made bar none. The libido rush and gains I got from it rivaled real test. That's why I made this thread. I had bought a good quantity of TST hoping it might be the next 4-ad but it fell short of my expectations, though I think it is somewhat simliar and good for cutting. I also don't think dosing higher than 10mg is going to hurt anyone. I think PA called this one right, it's a weak Methyl-T.
 
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