Can i use Trembolone 4 ever ?

xR1pp3Rx said:
im not lying.. there has been a couple recent studies and big pharma is looking at it as a "new" SARM or for TRT
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This makes no sense... it does literally none of the things trt would and actually makes all of them worse (which is why people have to have a test base with it).

As for sarms... it just isn't ha.
 
How to "use trenbolone 4 ever" :

-Inject your test subject rodent EoD

-Once said rodent dies, get another

-Repeat

I'm hoping that after watching test subjects literally die in front of you one after another that you will reconsider this

 
From what Ive read, the dudes in white lab coats favor tren as a SARM due to its low/negligible androgenicity. This is all based on rat studies, of course.
 
Nac said:
From what Ive read, the dudes in white lab coats favor tren as a SARM due to its low/negligible androgenicity. This is all based on rat studies, of course.
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Lol I know, sounds cray cray...but as far as theyre concerned it fits the definition/MoA of a SARM.
 
This is where I came across the idea, article has links to study:

ironmagazineDOTcom/2015/how-safe-is-trenbolone/
 
It just sounds too wrong to try to wrap my head around

Tren is extremely androgenic; do not know where you got "negligible"

It is around 5x moreso than testosterone
 
Lol Im not claiming anything, read the article bros.

Theyre saying its selectively androgenic. Meaning, it has low affinity for bad androgenic stuff (doesnt convert to estro or DHT, doesnt fuk up prostate).
 
Oh I will definitely read it and thanks for sharing Nac

I'm confident it will be an entertaining read
 
Nac said:
Lol Im not claiming anything, read the article bros.

Theyre saying its selectively androgenic. Meaning, it has low affinity for bad androgenic stuff (doesnt convert to estro or DHT, doesnt fuk up prostate).
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Which we know not to be the case in humans. It binds to the androgen receptors at a much greater strength in humans which in turn makes it resistant to metabolic breakdown...hence its harsher on the body.
 
I wouldn't even say rats dodged the bullet here

it drastically increased prostrate mass and lowered HDL (and LDL, but I wouldn't call it safe because of a trade off)
 
Driven2lift said:
I wouldn't even say rats dodged the bullet here

it drastically increased prostrate mass and lowered HDL (and LDL, but I wouldn't call it safe because of a trade off)
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The long term and damaging effects simply can't be seen....even remotely in a six week study, in rats. If a 49% increase in prostate mass within 6 weeks doesn't tell you that in 6 months you are going to have issues, I don't know what will. Thats simply an insane amount of growth in such a short time.

The decrease in HDL is typical of highly androgenic drugs. Dr. Rand McClain has seen numerous bloodwork with people on Winstrol with HDL in the single digits. In 6 weeks, not a concern...because it will bounce back upon cessation of use. For TRT...no way in hell a doctor would use it.
 
Nac said:
I think Im more bamboozled by how tren could qualify as a viable trt compound.
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Its not. There are people that have takin dbol with no change in liver values for 6 weeks.....then concluding you can take dbol as TRT because no changes were seen in 6 weeks. It doesn't work like that.
 
illazilla said:
exactly!! people think because its so powerful it makes it more dangerous... not saying its not dangerous indirectly, but even still if diet and health is kept in check it can definetly be controlled

my bloods were fine after close to a year on tren; yet a person on a 16 week test/dbol cycle eating mcdonalds everyday will have messed up liver values!
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You know none of us are responding to your posts merely because there's no point in arguing with an idiot.
You need to do a whole lot more research before you continue to make a fool of yourself.
 
Nac said:
I think Im more bamboozled by how tren could qualify as a viable trt compound.
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I think I recall lewellyn postulating the dose would be much smaller to get the same effects. I will have to revist the article he wrote about it..
another thing no being mentioned is the theory it may hasten/worsen ahlziemers
 
reps4jesus said:
You know none of us are responding to your posts merely because there's no point in arguing with an idiot.
You need to do a whole lot more research before you continue to make a fool of yourself.
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hahahah im the idiot ??? look at you hero..... you want me to research something that has no RESEARCH based on it ?? good call brains hahaha
 
illazilla said:
hahahah im the idiot ??? look at you hero..... you want me to research something that has no RESEARCH based on it ?? good call brains hahaha
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After reading just a few of your recent posts and understanding you have no respectable amount knowledge on the subject I can't dignify this or anything else you say with a response. But have fun on the forums bud, you're bound to run into one or two people who are dumb enough to listen to you.
 
Actually in some idioms, it is called trem with M, and mine corrector is portuguese, english, indian, and some other languages.

" Trembolona " for exemple, and thx for those who didnt focus on the M
 
Has anyone seen jerry brainums recent YouTube video claiming tren use has been linked to Alzheimer's? Interesting video
 
reps4jesus said:
After reading just a few of your recent posts and understanding you have no respectable amount knowledge on the subject I can't dignify this or anything else you say with a response. But have fun on the forums bud, you're bound to run into one or two people who are dumb enough to listen to you.
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you will see one day buddy, if you can give me evidence that tren is harsher than any other compound then i will be happy to retract my argument,, you cant try and belittle me because my findings arent the same as yours... dont try and act like a hero/know it all when theres no evidence at all that says tren can kill you!!!!!! .... the worst part about it all is that you try and demeanor people because they wont listen or follow you.... unless you come back with solid evidence take your bitchiness somewhere else
 
Too many variables. Like any other drug, some people can get by with doing it for decades, others die at any given time.

Even at moderate doses Tren gets my Resting Heart Rate to 100+ bpm at times throughout the day, and keeps my BP elevated. The sides tend to smooth out as my body acclimates, but that doesn't mean the Tren got any less harsh.

What would the benefit be to using it "4 ever"? As a form of TRT? But why?
 
Dma378 said:
Too many variables. Like any other drug, some people can get by with doing it for decades, others die at any given time.

Even at moderate doses Tren gets my Resting Heart Rate to 100+ bpm at times throughout the day, and keeps my BP elevated. The sides tend to smooth out as my body acclimates, but that doesn't mean the Tren got any less harsh.

What would the benefit be to using it "4 ever"? As a form of TRT? But why?
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i agree, i would never advocate using anything forever ... but saying tren can kill you is blown way out of proportion

if you see my previous posts i clearly state it can be harmful indirectly (high bp etc)

but these can definetly be mitigated!
 
illazilla said:
i agree, i would never advocate using anything forever ... but saying tren can kill you is blown way out of proportion

if you see my previous posts i clearly state it can be harmful indirectly (high bp etc)

but these can definetly be mitigated!
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Agree I think death is a bit extreme. But extended exposure or consumption to any chemical can have adverse effects in the end. Our 60's and 70's will tell the tale of our 20's-40's.
 
That being said, I have heard of long low dose cruises with tren. I just think the OP's use of the word "forever" is not a smart option.
 
illazilla said:
you will see one day buddy, if you can give me evidence that tren is harsher than any other compound then i will be happy to retract my argument
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Evidence? This is like saying I need evidence the sky is blue because there are no studies stating the sky is blue. How much denial are you in when you can't even admit that tren is harsher than test?

Its just amazing. Its like talking to a drug addict.
 
Admin said:
Evidence? This is like saying I need evidence the sky is blue because there are no studies stating the sky is blue. How much denial are you in when you can't even admit that tren is harsher than test?

Its just amazing. Its like talking to a drug addict.
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Um, youre not telling him what he wants to hear. He needs enabling.
 
I'll enable him slightly. OP if you want to run 87mg a week of tren for an extended period, do it. Yes that's really low, and if you were going to run it for a while that'd be the way to go. 6 months? 9 months? Knock yourself out. Do yourself a favor, do bloods a couple times, train and eat well.

But drop the idea of 4 ever. If your intent is to gain and maintain long term, there are plain and simply better options. All things considered, health being the main one.
 
Admin said:
Evidence? This is like saying I need evidence the sky is blue because there are no studies stating the sky is blue. How much denial are you in when you can't even admit that tren is harsher than test?

Its just amazing. Its like talking to a drug addict.
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you have to be joking right? you truly have no idea do you? your sitting here telling me pros dont use tren a majority of the year? if so you are dead wrong my friend

let me get this straight, you are telling me its obvious that tren is harsher than other steroids?

tell me how this is obvious........

stop talking to me theoretically, i want you to explain to me why its obvious its much more harsher.... if you can i will stop using it completely


after all; were all hear to learn right ? ;)
 
illazilla said:
you have to be joking right? you truly have no idea do you? your sitting here telling me pros dont use tren a majority of the year? if so you are dead wrong my friend

let me get this straight, you are telling me its obvious that tren is harsher than other steroids?

tell me how this is obvious........

stop talking to me theoretically, i want you to explain to me why its obvious its much more harsher.... if you can i will stop using it completely


after all; were all hear to learn right ? ;)
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also a big LOL at the ''like talking to a drug addict" if you havent noticed mate, this is anabolic steroid forum.... were all junkies LOL
 
illazilla said:
you have to be joking right? you truly have no idea do you? your sitting here telling me pros dont use tren a majority of the year? if so you are dead wrong my friend

let me get this straight, you are telling me its obvious that tren is harsher than other steroids?

tell me how this is obvious........

stop talking to me theoretically, i want you to explain to me why its obvious its much more harsher.... if you can i will stop using it completely


after all; were all hear to learn right ? ;)
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You simply are a ****ing idiot.

If you read what I posted you would understand why by its chemical structure and how strong it binds to the androgen receptor which makes it resistant to metabolic breakdown which then is harsher on your body as a whole. Please for the love of god, get a ****ing clue.
 
illazilla said:
also a big LOL at the ''like talking to a drug addict" if you havent noticed mate, this is anabolic steroid forum.... were all junkies LOL
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Then we all feel sorry for you. You truly are the definition of a meathead. Dead from the neck up.
 
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