Unanswered Can Anyone Dispel These Fat Loss Myths? Maybe Can Do So With Research?

ucimigrate

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Hello Everyone,

I really did enjoy the book "Body for Life" as it put together many things about goal setting, resistance training, cardiovascular training, supplementation, etc. But, in Bill Philip's new age talk, I think he misused research studies that he could never cite.

Some of his work made statements that I believe true research refutes. Can anyone support or refute me?

1. "Cardio in a fasted state burns far more fat, including 300% more" than doing in a non-fasted state.

The research I read showed that fasted cardio does burn more fat than non-fasted cardio; however, the difference is probably in the 10-20% range, and that fasted cardio often has less intensity than non-fasted cardio, and that it only works if calories are

2. "Cardio burns off your muscle?"

I think too much cardiovascular training can burn off your muscle. But, I think about 20 minutes is good per session.

Bodyweight finishers and stair climbing does not seem to eat away muscle.

3. "Free days are necessary to help reset your metabolism."

Small refeeds every 72 hours seems the best way. The protein and carbohydrates can get converted into glucose, hence going into glycogen. The insulin release also is beneficial for normalizing leptin levels. I think the amount of food would be less, as in 100 - 200 grams total of insulin producing sources.

4. "If fasted cardio is best, drinking a protein shake or something like Gatorade during the workout is a terrible idea."

5. "If fasted cardio is best, then you need to wait one hour after you eat"

Eating does not slow down metabolism. In fact, after a hard weight training workout, or a weight training workout with cardio afterwards, eating as soon after is necessary for meal replenishment. The fat burning happens during the workout and throughout the day, with little regards to a fasted state or not.
 
Fasted walking will get rid of fat better than intense cardio. Also improves insulin sensitivity.
 
The only time fasted would make sense is if you use Yohimbine to help with stubborn fat besides that just do your cardio if you include some on your plan

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Good Pubmed Study to prove that point:
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These findings indicate that body composition changes associated with aerobic exercise in conjunction with a hypocaloric diet are similar regardless of whether or not an individual is fasted prior to training.

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The authors conclude that when moderate endurance exercise is done to lose body fat, fasting before exercise does not enhance lipid utilization; rather, physical activity after a light meal is advisable.
 
Fasted walking will get rid of fat better than intense cardio. Also improves insulin sensitivity.

I do if so everything I do is fasted but I don't se how walking would burn more then running. Harder you work more calories should be burned. I do construction/ demo mostly concrete as my main thing. On weekends lawn care on a lot of large commercial properties. Kept a phone in my pocket to track miles. Biggest lawn I go 13 miles pushing spreader with 50 lbs and lots of hills. Fat melts off. Winter time I do boxing and add yohimbe. Works way better for me anyway. Walking never feels like I'm doing anything. Also like sprints but too much was getting hard on my knees. If walking works for you though that's great! I've just never seen a difference from it.
 
Lost over 40 pounds this year and only cardio was fasted walking. That said I did OMAD + keto (still do) and a few extended water fasts. I know it’s not what you asked about but if fat loss is your goal I strongly urge you to research water fasting.

I’m also a huge proponent of keto and intermittent fasting. Been bulking for a few weeks and all I’ve changed is adding more calories and I’m having much more success than I expected
 
I do if so everything I do is fasted but I don't se how walking would burn more then running. Harder you work more calories should be burned. I do construction/ demo mostly concrete as my main thing. On weekends lawn care on a lot of large commercial properties. Kept a phone in my pocket to track miles. Biggest lawn I go 13 miles pushing spreader with 50 lbs and lots of hills. Fat melts off. Winter time I do boxing and add yohimbe. Works way better for me anyway. Walking never feels like I'm doing anything. Also like sprints but too much was getting hard on my knees. If walking works for you though that's great! I've just never seen a difference from it.
Walking works better for fat loss because walking utilizes fat for fuel, running utilizes the muscle glycogen first before getting into fat stores.
 
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