Can’t sleep on DMZ!

[Bigmatt57]

I’ve been taking DMZ (hardcore sports nutrition) at 32mg daily. I’ve been on for 14 days now. I’ve taken DMZ about a dozen times. And this is my third time taking this brand of DMZ. I take the first cap right before I leave for work at around 9am then the second cap at about 11pm. I will feel super tired then about 30mins after taking the DMZ I will be wide awake and won’t be able to sleep until 4-5am. I think maybe it’s because I’m not taking a complete cycle support product. Since I’m only taking 32mg I’m just taking 1,500mg Hawthorn, 1,800mg NAC and 4,000mg garlic extract daily. Last night I did get a bloody nose so I’ll make sure to swing my the supermarket and get my BP checked? Could it be my BP that’s keeping me up? Any suggestions on what I could add? Or maybe take the second capsule at around 5pm.

 

[Pleonastic]

Certain anabolics have hurt my sleep as well. You could try taking it much earlier like 4pm or so.

The only thing that really works if I have horrid cycle insomnia are benzos but they can become super addictive and I'm sure they are not healthy in thier own right. For shirt periods, limited use though they work fantastic for me.

 

[CroLifter]

Mk677...

Trashes melatonin imho.

I cant sleep at all as of lately so i cheat frrom time to time with mk. I simply cant get to sleep, i get into this weird hallucinogenic state where i start to dream but I am aware that i M awake (its not lucid dreaming, i am awake but i am simply hallucinating) and can feel the surroundings of real life as well as the dream. Then i wake up and its like that, feeling like a zombie constantly. Been awake all night last night didnt get a minute of sleep just hallucinations lol

As a matter of fact on tren i slept normal and off cycle i cant sleep for sh1t

With mk I sleep like a baby

Prolonged oral treatment with MK-677, a novel growth hormone secretagogue, improves sleep quality in man - PubMed

Previous studies have indicated the existence of common mechanisms regulating sleep and somatotropic activity. In the present study, we investigated the effects of prolonged treatment with a novel, orally active, growth hormone secretagogue (MK-677) on sleep quality in healthy young and older...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Bigmatt57]

Just got another bloody nose, but right after checked my BP 127/81. I haven’t checked my BP in a long time. So even though this is a preety normal range it may be high for me. Going to pick up some celery seed extract from Walmart tonight.

 

[mawalega]

Man the blood would scare me personally. I just found that rad causes bleeding in some as well, might be just how the compound (or brand) effects you individually?

 

[Bigmatt57]

By the way I have been taking sleep medication, one night it was 2am, and after trying to fall asleep since 11pm I took 24mg of melatonin and 50mg of diphenhydramine and didn’t fall asleep till 7am, only to wake up a hour and half later for work. You would think I would be exhausted the entire day and fall asleep very early that night. But nope was still up till 4-5am.

 

[Bigmatt57]

Mk677...

Trashes melatonin imho.

I cant sleep at all as of lately so i cheat frrom time to time with mk. I simply cant get to sleep, i get into this weird hallucinogenic state where i start to dream but I am aware that i M awake (its not lucid dreaming, i am awake but i am simply hallucinating) and can feel the surroundings of real life as well as the dream. Then i wake up and its like that, feeling like a zombie constantly. Been awake all night last night didnt get a minute of sleep just hallucinations lol

As a matter of fact on tren i slept normal and off cycle i cant sleep for sh1t

With mk I sleep like a baby

Prolonged oral treatment with MK-677, a novel growth hormone secretagogue, improves sleep quality in man - PubMed

Previous studies have indicated the existence of common mechanisms regulating sleep and somatotropic activity. In the present study, we investigated the effects of prolonged treatment with a novel, orally active, growth hormone secretagogue (MK-677) on sleep quality in healthy young and older...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I know EXACTLY what you mean about the so-called hallucinations. It’s hard to explain but it’s like your still awake but just having weird thoughts and sh1t. You think your on the brink of falling asleep but you don’t.

 

[BigGame84]

Man the blood would scare me personally. I just found that rad causes bleeding in some as well, might be just how the compound (or brand) effects you individually?

When the juice ain’t worth the squeeze...

 

[ValiantThor08]

Take all the DMZ before noon. Are you on testosterone? If not, add HCG, and or DHEA.

 

[Renew1]

I take (almost) all of my orals in the morning because it is easy for my sleep to be disturbed.
But DMZ doesn't affect my sleep much.

Keep an eye on your BP.

Oohhh..,...... 24mg of MELATONIN????

WOW

 

[Pleonastic]

By the way I have been taking sleep medication, one night it was 2am, and after trying to fall asleep since 11pm I took 24mg of melatonin and 50mg of diphenhydramine and didn’t fall asleep till 7am, only to wake up a hour and half later for work. You would think I would be exhausted the entire day and fall asleep very early that night. But nope was still up till 4-5am.

24mg of melatonan? I don't know too much about the stuff but it's a hormone as far as I know and that seems like a really high dose. Also you said you've done 12 cycles of DMZ. Not sure in how many years, but that's a lot, especially if other times you did other stuff.

I'm not trying to come off as "better than you". I take stuff too and have been in the anabolic drug game a very long time. But nose bleeds no sleep many cycles super high melatonin...I think maybe look into stuff a bit more and try to take things a bit safer. It's just my friendly 2 cents. Decide for yourself.

 

[Bigmatt57]

I take (almost) all of my orals in the morning because it is easy for my sleep to be disturbed.
But DMZ doesn't affect my sleep much.

Keep an eye on your BP.

Oohhh..,...... 24mg of MELATONIN????

WOW

I got the 12mg pills, I have such a high tolerance to the stuff since I’ve been taking it for years. Really need a tolerance break from the stuff.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I got the 12mg pills, I have such a high tolerance to the stuff since I’ve been taking it for years. Really need a tolerance break from the stuff.

With melatonin the less you take, the better it works for sleep, from what I have studied on it. Also, take it 2 to 3 hours before you sleep. Start with 300mcg, 2 hours before bed.

 

[Pleonastic]

I got the 12mg pills, I have such a high tolerance to the stuff since I’ve been taking it for years. Really need a tolerance break from the stuff.

Yea try and cold turkey for awhile or have multiple sleep things in your arsenal then alternate so that you don't become resistant to one.

 

[Zvch]

I’ve been taking DMZ (hardcore sports nutrition) at 32mg daily. I’ve been on for 14 days now. I’ve taken DMZ about a dozen times. And this is my third time taking this brand of DMZ. I take the first cap right before I leave for work at around 9am then the second cap at about 11pm. I will feel super tired then about 30mins after taking the DMZ I will be wide awake and won’t be able to sleep until 4-5am. I think maybe it’s because I’m not taking a complete cycle support product. Since I’m only taking 32mg I’m just taking 1,500mg Hawthorn, 1,800mg NAC and 4,000mg garlic extract daily. Last night I did get a bloody nose so I’ll make sure to swing my the supermarket and get my BP checked? Could it be my BP that’s keeping me up? Any suggestions on what I could add? Or maybe take the second capsule at around 5pm.

Things to consider:

1) 24mg of Melatonin is probably why you can’t sleep. Melatonin has adverse effects over 10mg. High doses of Melatonin will keep you up. You should never need more than 5-7.5mg.

2) If you’re not running a test base, that’s also probably contributing to the lack of sleep. Msten will have your natural testosterone production in the dirt quickly. Low T can cause bad sleep problems.

3) “Only 32mg of Msten” 32mg is a lot dude. If I couldn’t sleep, the first thing I would do is back down the dosage.

4) Nosebleeds aren’t necessarily correlated with high BP. Hematocrit can be too high without crazy BP readings.

Go donate blood immediately. If they don’t let you because your Hemoglobin/Hematocrit are too high, go to your doctor and have them prescribe it.