CA and H-Drol Stack

[fatburner2007]

Looking at running the following:

1. CEL Cycle Assist -

Preload 10 days before starting H-drol at 4 caps per day around 7am.
While using H-dro, take 4 caps around 7am and 4 caps around 9pm.

2. Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol -

Weeks 1-2: 50mg/day (take 2 caps around 4pm <workout around 5pm>)
Weeks 2-5 or 6: 75mg/day (take 1 cap around 11am and 2 caps around 4pm)

3. PCT:

I Force Nutrition Reversitol -

Week 1: 1 cap am, 2 caps pm
Week 2: 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
Week 3: 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
Week 4: 1 cap pm.

Lean FX at week 3 of PCT

Any problem with using something like APS Phenadrine for preworkout?

 

[fatburner2007]

APS Phenadrine
Serving size: 1 cap/60caps per bottle
750mg per (1) capsule

N-acetyl-Tyrosine
Icariin
Caffeine
1,3 dimethylamylamine
N-methyl-beta-methylphenylethylamine hcl
Methyl-synephrine

Can you give me the ingredients for the APS Phenadrine - I'm not familiar with it.

 

[fatburner2007]

Good idea!

One thing I have heard with H-drol is lower back pain; does it depend on the person or the type of dosage? Not sure if I sh ould expect this and if so what is best to deal with it?

Eh, go ahead and run it but be careful and monitor your blood pressure/heart rate.

 

[fatburner2007]

Would something like Xtend be beneficial?

Well it's a situation where your body is having problems replenishing electrolytes so a lot of people dose taurine... I prefer a product called Poisedon (spelling)... I believe nimbus nutrition makes it.

 

[fatburner2007]

Any suggestions on taurine dosage and would you start it day 1 of H-drol or along with preload?

It would... but that's more the bcaa's side of it... I'd definitely add additional taurine at the least

 

[fatburner2007]

Sounds good!

For H-drol, thought I saw somewhere to help avoid suppression, dose it higher earlier in the day than later.

Originally I was thinking:

Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol -

Weeks 1-2: 50mg/day (take 2 caps around 4pm <workout around 5pm>)

Weeks 2-5 or 6: 75mg/day (take 1 cap around 11am and 2 caps around 4pm)

Would it be better to do something like:

Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol -

Weeks 1-2: 50mg/day (take 2 caps around 11am <or even earlier in the day?>)

Weeks 2-5 or 6: 75mg/day (take 2 caps around 11am <or even earlier in the day?> and 1 cap around 4pm)

Start it day one... get some bulk taurine powder from nutra and mix in one teaspoon twice a day with your protein shakes (tasteless stuff).

 

[fatburner2007]

But wouldn't take the bulk of the dosage later in the day possibly result in better chance of suppression?

DS/PH's generally have a short half life I take advantage of the doses by spreading them (or the majority of the doses) around the time I work out... so option 1 looks better to me. Opinions can vary though.

 

[fatburner2007]

Understandable; look forward to this stack. :thumbsup:

Look there are going to be sacrifices made to make gains - I just optimally take my ph before and after workouts to help with muscle growth but yes sleep and suppression can be affected as a result. There is no reward without risks or some loss.

Best of luck with your decision