BYE BYE cortisol! Hello PN's 11x-td...

hvactech

hvactech

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Ive been chosen to review a bottle of Platinum Nutraceuticals 11-Oxoderm, transdermal 11x cortisol control. Id like to extend my deepest gratitude for this. First time using an 11x product.

-60ml bottle
-1ml equivalates 1000mg orally

-My dosage and stacking will be as follows:
11-Oxoderm - 1ml or 8 pumps once daily
Epiandro - 300mg
-This will be an 8 week run and depending on results a second bottle will be purchased to increase dosage of 11-Oxoderm. Ive used epiandro multiple times so I know what to expect from it and how to distinguish the cortisol controlling results.
-My diet for the next 8 weeks will be a low carb style with no carb-ups or refeeds. 175g of protein,100g carbs, 80g fat.. A fluctuation of 100 calories here and there netting about 1800-1900 cals training days with a backloading approach using recompadrol. Non training days is no carbs with increased protein and fats... ive recently grew fond of beans so black and pinto are my carb sources along with tremendous fiber and a decent amount of protein...
-Other supps to be included:
Phytofoods
Anavite powder
Recompadrol
Carnitine
Various preworkouts
-Pct will consist of test powder, form-xt, ara, and natadrol for an additional 8 weeks..

This is my last hormonal run for a while and im also preparing myself to transition from bodybuilding to maintaining and a physique lifestyle. Years of stress and excessive time consumption derived from the sport of bodybuilding has taken its toll on my personal life, ill be in the gym 4x weekly for the next 16 weeks and no more than 3 after that. I try and perform high volume to make up for the lack of frequency and 2 out of the 4 days are dedicated to legs.
-5'5
-153lbs
-Bf% n/a

Pics coming soon along with a full blood panel I had performed last week.
 
SUbbed brother! And what is that by all of your supplements?
 
McCrew530 said:
SUbbed brother! And what is that by all of your supplements?
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It is a pound of 91/9 ground turkey with a cup of brown rice.. not sure why pics upload sideways on a mobile.
 
Last indulgence ive been working on....

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did you get your 11 oxo in the mail already..?

Im still waiting on mine :(
 
Today was the first initial dosing after my morning shower, I applied 8 pumps between my chest and shoulders and upper back. Texture is a creamy white substance , very smooth and texture with a very faint smell, it dried instantly upon application , I also dosed 300 milligrams of EPI andro. 2 more doses of EPI andro will take place during the day
 
Post workout.... 12oz ham steak and peppers

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hvactech said:
No worries big guy... not sure what im suppose to "feel" with 11x
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A lot of people who have used epiandrosterone (main ingredient) say they feel increase aggression quite quickly after only short amount of use. Not to mention muscle hardening, most likely too early for that though.

I probably jumped the gun asking about those effects as it should become more apparent in the next few days of use hopefully :)
 
Hmmm.. so andrenosterone (11x) is essentially the same as epiandro (EPIandrosterone) ?
 
So....this morning starts the official "ocd" dieting in which I modified... full targeted keto with no refeeds. Carbs only post workout. Im getting very bloated after carb ingestion with recompadrol. Im also jumping on the hbcd intra train with aminos
 
hvactech said:
So....this morning starts the official "ocd" dieting in which I modified... full targeted keto with no refeeds. Carbs only post workout. Im getting very bloated after carb ingestion with recompadrol. Im also jumping on the hbcd intra train with aminos
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With the serving size confusion I will be pumping 6 times every morning till bottle runs out... I had been pumping 8 times the last two days
 
hvactech said:
So....this morning starts the official "ocd" dieting in which I modified... full targeted keto with no refeeds. Carbs only post workout. Im getting very bloated after carb ingestion with recompadrol. Im also jumping on the hbcd intra train with aminos
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I did keto once for about 4-5 weeks... Never again for me, I was tired and grumpy all the time lol.

I now just drop carbs lower but never cut them out... Lowest I ever go is around 90-100g
 
grinnell27 said:
I did keto once for about 4-5 weeks... Never again for me, I was tired and grumpy all the time lol.

I now just drop carbs lower but never cut them out... Lowest I ever go is around 90-100g
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My post carbs will be 75-100 which is also a cbl effect, I may do a banana or strawberries in the morning
 
grinnell27 said:
That seems fine doing that then you'll prob feel fine doing that.
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I ran full keto for 4 weeks and dropped a ton of fat but by the 5 I lost strength and motivation and was "snappy"
 
A little veinage tease... post upper back/traps...

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keto is great but not for everybody , btw i'm planning to do a cycle similar to yours keto + 11 oxo ( pills form ) and 1 alpha finaflex instead i'm curious how you go good luck.
 
bobi593 said:
keto is great but not for everybody , btw i'm planning to do a cycle similar to yours keto + 11 oxo ( pills form ) and 1 alpha finaflex instead i'm curious how you go good luck.
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Thanks for joining
:-)
 
so there are some changes being made, first and foremost I have left LGsciences indefinitely and have signed with Prime nutrition and Black Stone Labs, secondly im finishing my last bottle of epiandro and will use up the rest of my 17 proandro which is 2 bottles...dosing will be 9ml a day till supply is gone, 11-oxoderm has been 4 pumps twice daily morning/night.

the pump application has started to bind up and not dispense properly so I will use the syringe route and dose 1ml a day. the product smell definitely lingers through the day and it continues to dry fast and smooth. muscle hardness is abundantly apparent and increased vascularity is most welcomed. I have introduced more carbs on a regular basis and have dropped recompadrol due to understanding my carb tolerances without supplements. im also struggling finding a decent tdee during the cold season and I do not want to drop cals too low. maybe this will be a recomp process versus a pure fatloss but we'll see, progress will be made none the less
 
Congrats on the switch man the guys at Blackstone are good people. I had some interaction with them on another forum. If you can recomp while maintaining calories the product will speak for it self. Do your thing brother like you always do. And thank you for the feedback on the pump is it binding at the tip or in the tube.
 
Oh and if you get and samples of Euphoria I would love to try it :439:
 
the tube is building pressure plus the product semi hardened in the spout ...I normally stick to 2000-2300 cals year round and just adjust carbs accordingly. I don't like fluctuating through bulking and cutting diets...with all being said I will be introducing the new meadows intra product, INTRA-MD :)
 
Thanks for the heads up on the pump issue. Congrats on the signing! They seem a great company and have some decent products.
 
20oz 93/7 ground turkey, 3.5 cups black bean, peppers and onion

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Congrats Hvac on the new supplement companies.. both seem really solid :)
 
hvatech you have an adorable kid for a hand! I had no idea!
 
So....
Slight acne on the application spots... shoulders, chest, upper back... agression is kicking in and some increased focus is present.
Workouts are consistent and high volume, increased recovery time as well

Typical monday chest, shoulders, triceps:
Hammer seated chest presss
Bb bench
Hammer seated upper chest press
Incline db flyes
Weighted dips
Tri push downs/pull downs
Db side, front raises...
Weight range is depended upon the day... usually whatever puts me at 6-8 rep pressing movements and 8-10 rep secondary movements. Dips are always slight failure. Presses are 3 working sets and secondaries are 2 till failure. About 20 total sets for the workout lasting about 1-1.5 hours..

Supps have changed a little:
3-4 pumps 11x
4mls 17pro
1 scoop phytoform
Upon waking

1 scoop Anavite
Omega 3's
Alcar
First meal

4ml 17ro
Mid day

1 scoop anavite
Omega 3's
Alcar
Late night meal

1 scoop SAN green supreme fusion
Zma
3-4 pumps 11x
4mls 17 pro
Pre bed
 
Do you normally get acne with TD's? I know that I get some with certain creams.
 
Is it weird that I enjoy pumping creamy white stuff on my chest and smiling ear to ear as I rub it in?
 
Sorry to do this but I need to put this log on hold temporarily... just a few days
 
hvactech said:
Is it weird that I enjoy pumping creamy white stuff on my chest and smiling ear to ear as I rub it in?
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It is weird isnt it..? But I also love using transdermals & especially like rubbing them into my chest :)
 
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