bassgod272
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it thins your blood.
Bronkaid for loosing weight?
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it thins your blood.
bassgod272
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One more thing is Ephedrine HCL in Primatene is more potent mg for mg than Ephedrine Sulfate(Bronkaid).
Harry Manback
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Use whatever you want. The post was for those who use Primatene and would like to save two dollars.
Broodstar
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Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.
Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.
25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine
25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine
Ephedrine Sulfate vs. Ephedrine HCL
By 5% difference? Clearly enough Bayer (bronkaid) is not going to put a losey ephedrine that does not work. The science behind it all is yes I agree HCL is supperior than sulfate hands down, but as far as how much here is 5% difference. I tried both Vasopro (hcl) and bronkaid. Both work very well in my experiences.
Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.
25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine
25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine
Ephedrine Sulfate vs. Ephedrine HCL
By 5% difference? Clearly enough Bayer (bronkaid) is not going to put a losey ephedrine that does not work. The science behind it all is yes I agree HCL is supperior than sulfate hands down, but as far as how much here is 5% difference. I tried both Vasopro (hcl) and bronkaid. Both work very well in my experiences.
Broodstar
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True. Again they all have the same mechanisms I don't care how you want to word it. But 2 dollars not bad at all ^_^
Jda777
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there are 1000 mg = 1 gm
1000/25(per pill) = 40 pills.
I think my receipt said something like 9 grams per however long. Regardless, that would be like 360 pills.
I'd say you are okay as long as you are not a :crackhead:
bla55
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Good to know heheh.
And I was reading another of FlawedGrunt's post about the receptors, and he asked how long it's safe to run without busting your receptors. Also read about adding benadryl, anyone has info on that?
I've made good losses on this right now, but I'm nowhere near where I want to be after a dirty bulk. I'm sitting at 230 - 235 after a dirty bulk that got me to 245. I would be with a decent 8 - 10% of fat at 225, which is where I want to get for my shirtless summer and then run another bulk session.
Anyone got insight on that? Couple of months safe? When would I have to take the benadryl? How long do I have to quit for? Is it like steroids, as time on = time off?
Thanks again!
And I was reading another of FlawedGrunt's post about the receptors, and he asked how long it's safe to run without busting your receptors. Also read about adding benadryl, anyone has info on that?
I've made good losses on this right now, but I'm nowhere near where I want to be after a dirty bulk. I'm sitting at 230 - 235 after a dirty bulk that got me to 245. I would be with a decent 8 - 10% of fat at 225, which is where I want to get for my shirtless summer and then run another bulk session.
Anyone got insight on that? Couple of months safe? When would I have to take the benadryl? How long do I have to quit for? Is it like steroids, as time on = time off?
Thanks again!
jsp0785
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u can run benadryl while on it for a few weeks to keep ur receptors up. just get the knock off from walmart or sams club it's cheaper but make sure it's the same active ingredient as benedryl can't remember what it is off the top of my head. i would say 4 weeks on and at the very least 2 weeks off before starting again. maybe go 6 weeks with the last 2 taking benadryl and then take a month off
FlawedGrunt
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While I have posted this in the past as well and the science and perecentages are there... 25mg of HCl always feels much more effective and potent that 25mg of sulfate. I continue to choose to pay the extra and use the HCl for the reason, several others on the forum say the same thing about HCl feeling more potent... and i doubt its because of a 1mg difference... I think the HCl is just better
To each their own
Broodstar
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Agreed hcl is much better. But bronkaid is just another ephedrine source for those who are on a budget. But other than that I totally agree with you flaedgrunt hcl is the higher source. Good luck everyone who runs ECA its an awesome stack ^_^
FlawedGrunt
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Yeah budgets... unfortunately alot of us are on them! hahaha being unemployed blows!
I honestly feel its safe... to run E/C for 4-6 weeks, just take benedryl every 3rd week one a night before you go to bed
I honestly feel its safe... to run E/C for 4-6 weeks, just take benedryl every 3rd week one a night before you go to bed
Broodstar
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Flawedgrunt can you explain the benadryl theory on the ECA stack. Thats something I havent heard and yes unemployment sucks a$$. Ha good luck on the powerball ^_^
jsp0785
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jsp0785
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Agreed. Many epherine products, lets take Bronkaid for example, is used to help with tight chest, shortness of breathe,asthma. Many ephedrine products will have something related to asthma for example Primatine is a good example in the picture on the box. But yes ehedrine gives you energy it aint funny. Also you mentioned about doing it on cardio do be aware to keep your heart rate in check one effect of the ephedrine is it will raise your heart rate.Anywho good luck.
FlawedGrunt
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Im not 100% on the "logistics" side on benedryl, however what I do know is that with consistent use of a stimulent that attcks receptors after while they will recess into the muscle or the fact like of like a defense mechanism. With clenbutrol it can happen extremely fast like 2 weeks or so and with EC it can happen but takes quite awhile. Anyways Benedryl helps keep those receptors fresh and operating correctly and if you plan on taking EC for an extended time its not necessary to take benedryl every 3 weeks just reccomended to keep things moving along proficiently. Ive ran EC for 4 weeks on without benedryl and been fine but if you plan on going longer id do at least one week of benedryl at night before bed.
Its reccomended before bed cause the shxt will make you sleepy as all hell. And i know its not reccomended to take it for longer than a week but im not sure of the reasoning, i think it can be counter productive.
However if you have the money, pick up some Reset-AD, havent used it myself yet but it has Ketotifen and the reviews for Reset-AD are overwhelmingly good. Alot of guys who said there were insensitive to stims felt like crackheads again hahahahaha
Thats another point, after a week or two of max dosage EC you will stop feeling the cracked out feeling... alot of people think that means its not working... when in reality thats usally when your fatloss is the best. And your first week of EC you should lose a good 3-5 lbs cause of water loss due to Caffeine being a diruetic
Ok im done ranting time to go for a run
FlawedGrunt
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I personally thing Yohimbine is AWESOME at the correct dosage... however it does make it very very very difficult to do cardio or workout in general... at effective doses your heart will be going so fast at some points its down right scary
First time I ever did sprints with a good dose of Yohimbine in my system I could have swore my heart was gonna jump right of my chest and bitch slap me for pushing it so hard
And then there was doing Alternating DB curls... i was only doing a max of 8 reps and by the time i was done doing them I thought for sure id pass out before I hit the last rep on every set
HOWEVER, Yohimbine dosed correctly and away from carbs with OBLIDERATE fat cells. I lost a good chunk on my love handles that way... however max dose is like .2mg per 10 lbs of bodyweight (i think that was the math) so for me it was one dose of almost 22mg of Yohimbine while I was having trouble with my heart at like 16-18mg... Now before someone does something stupid and goes and takes a max dose keep in mind Yohimbine is a VERY POWERFUL stimlulent and you should judge your tolerance... that means if you have 2.5mg pills you should start at 1 pill, and then work your way up 1 pill a day until you hit a sweet spot.
Also keep your eye open for Alpha Yohimbine coming out from RPN pretty soon, I used Alpha Yohimbine once in the past and it pretty much has all the positives and non of the negatives.
God I feel like a board rep or something suggesting all these products! Whos hiring! hahahaha jk
Phew that was long winded...
Disclaimer: Im not an expert on this topic, I have alot of common knowledge based on my own research for my own EC , ECY cycles which I gladly share. But im not perfect so dont no 1 go dying and sayin some shxt like "Flawed said I could!" Hahha
FlawedGrunt
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Well i better not be getting to the pearly gates and get damned to hell cause some asxhole decided to blame his death on me! Who am i kidding im already damned to hell... all my boys with be there... so its gonna be a party! :thumbsup:
Damn Jda777 if thats your pic in your avatar you have a sick ass physique! Thats about what im going for... but its a long ways out
bla55
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I mean, he does have a skull for a picture! :lol:
And I hear you guys about the heart rate, I usually take my EC (I leave the Y out of my pre-cardio dosage) at a decent dose of 35 or 50, with 400 of C, about 40 - 50 mins before the workout. I also wear a heart monitor to make sure I don't go above 180 ever. So far it seems to be going good.
As for the ECY dosage I'm trying your suggestion, which has helped me out on not feeling too jittery. I'm now dosing it 3x a day rather than 2. 35mgE, 400C, 10mgY, 3 times a day. And that's been treating me damn good. I'm always with a good feeling, I don't crash, got energy, not hard on my stomach, doesn't get my heart exploding or anything.
I'm really happy with this right now and it's working wonders. One week from now I'll sneak some benadryl in (did i get this correctly? run it for a week at, lets say, the 4th week? And then go for maybe another 2 weeks with ECY and take a month break?).
FlawedGrunt
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jsp0785
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i think the benedryl would be more effective while on it and the reset AD is great to take during ur time off while not on any stims
Broodstar
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Okay yes I did read on Clen about the stack with the Benadryl. Makes sence so I went to search for the benadryl and came up with a ton of different kinds. I don't know id there is just one peticular Benadryl or perhaps they all the same mechansims and either one won't matter.As far as Yohimbine, thats a good herb I am a caffiene junkie so I usually do 3 servings of my e/c/w ephedrine,caffiene,white willow (not extreme champion wrestling lol). I see many did the e/c/y which is also great. I also like synephrine as well (citrus aurantium) which is also great.
Jda777
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Thanks, I'm still trying to get leaner. I'd say I'm probably at the leanest point in my life. It's all about how bad you want it and how hardcore you stick to your diet. I keep a calorie log everyday to make sure I am taking in exactly what I should be.
My GF is getting self conscious I think though. She better step up her game. :laugh:
McBurly
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its a bronchodialator if i recall, thats why it helps out with endurance
FlawedGrunt
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Yeah my girl is all wierd about me getting into shape... like shes nice and skinny but she already worries about girls hittin on me cause im super social and friendly... she likes that im getting skinnier but doesnt like the fact i could get more attractive... damn controlling women hahah
Jda777
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Yeah. I tell her I'm not in competition with you, I'm in competition with myself and all the knuckleheads out there. Gotta be #1. I don't want to be huge, just bigger than average dudes and shredded.
Girls do take notice though. I'm breaking necks lately. :laugh:
FlawedGrunt
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True that brotha true that! I miss those days back when I was cycling m1t and was super dedicated when people would be like "damn youre big i wouldnt fxck with you" hahahaha dont gotta be the biggest just gotta have the upper edge on most hahaha
MrBrightside
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Yeah...I used a similar dose with 3 caps of Dialene. Completely backfired on my cardio- even though my legs never got tired, I thought my heart was going to jump out of my chest.
Weird how most bronchial-related cures involve ingredients that encourage weight loss.
Jda777
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Ha. The weird thing is when random guys come up to you in the locker room and start talking to you while you are in your underwear. I do try and answer their questions but can I at least get some pants on....:laugh:
jsp0785
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that's such bull ****. girls go out and show off their goods for free drinks but a guy can't do the same. so so depressing
jsp0785
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whats even more weird is ur standing in front of dudes in ur underwear.
jsp0785
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not to get off topic but i've been stuck at the same weight i'm at forever. is there anyway u can PM me your diet if u already have it typed up or something? i've been following one but it's the same food every single day and i'm looking for some variety but i'm not creative at all in the cooking department
Jda777
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Have you never been in a locker room Francis? :crackhead:
Jda777
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I don't have it typed up, and it is random day to day. Before I go typing some shite up, are you doing empty stomach morning cardio...for how long....how often...
Are you taking any fat burning supps.
How many calories do you take in each day.
How many grams of protein
How many grams of carbs
How many grams of fat
It's science and you have to play with those things to find your apogee in fitness.
FlawedGrunt
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im assuming youre a fan of fasted cario? Me too but i have quite abit to lose before i start lookin like that!
Harry Manback
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Bearing britches for longer than 30 seconds at my gym is a punishable offense. Said half minute provides ample time to slip off work slacks and slip on shorts, sweatpants, gi or what have you. Anything longer is portrayed as an act of public indecency. As always, there are exceptions to the rule. If you're over the age of 55, as hairy as can be and sit on the machine dedicated of calf raises yet perform 1/3rd full leg presses, then you are allowed to walk around the locker room naked. I've always questioned this logic myself. Although one day I will be there and perhaps then I will understand.
jsp0785
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i've always been the type of person to just eat whatevers around because i stay pretty lean with very little cardio. but i just started following a strict diet thats around 3,900 cals a day.. i don't have the exact numbers on me now. but there's no cardio going on in the morning
jsp0785
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oh the 1/3rd calf raises. i love watching people who have no idea what they are doing. i once whitnessed a kid trying to put 100lb plates on a machine that was about chest high or a little higher and it's angled upward.
Jda777
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I don't even wanna know how you punish each other in the locker room. I'll just be glad that I go elsewhere.
jsp0785
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hahaha this thread has gone from ephedrine to another topic and back to ephedrine constantly. we must all have ADD
Jda777
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Are you trying to go up in weight. If so you are probably in the wrong place to section to ask this. If you are trying to lose weight, wtf are you doing eating 3900 calories. I'm 194 really lean, and eat on average, around 2200-2400 day. If you are trying to lean up, drop calories to 3000 and stay there for a week or two....see what happens. High protein - moderate carb - no processed foods or sugars.