Bridge overlap, yea or nea???

Srt4Muscle

Srt4Muscle

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The topic of bridge overlap has come up during a cycle review, sd to epi. The question, is it necessary and/or beneficial to overlap compounds during a bridge?

Example
Sd. 20/20/20
Epi. 00/00/40/40/40/40

Or

Sd. 20/20/20
Epi. 00/00/00/40/40/40/40

Which one would u choose and why....

My theory was, u would want to get the second compound started prior to stopping the first compound, that way u have a smooth transition in between. Also having both methyl compounds anything after 6 weeks would be considered pushing it, another reason overlap would be necessary. So u have at least 4 weeks of the second compound and limit the overall stress on your body.
 
I wanna preface by saying it probably doesnt matter.

But still, many questions arise about overlap w/ sd to epi cycles. I have never done overlap, so my opinions are biased.

In terms of overall liver stress, the total dosages of each compound is the same in both cycle plans you outline. You could split hairs, but i think this is the bottom line.

I agree with your thoughts on the epi needing some time to kick in. But remember that half-lifes work both ways....

The SD you take on day 7 of week 4 will not only affect day 7 of week 4 (or whatever your last week of sd is). In fact, all of the Sd you take in week 4 will be working well into week 5. Now if youve preloaded epi during week 4, you will be doubling up on methyls in week 5 or further. This may or may not be desired. For me I like to have a general idea of which ph i am under affect of.

I guess overlapping would make more sense to me if sd had a significantly shorter halflife than epi. Im assuming theyre similar.
 
Let me start with the the term 'bridge'. This would be an example of two cycles with a 'bridge' between them:

Week 1-10: Dbol, Test, Deca
Week 11-15: Test only at a smaller dose (this is the bridge)
Week 11-20: Test, Tren, Winny

Now we have kids saying they are 'bridging' pro-hormones like:

Week 1-4: SD
Week 3-7: Epi

THIS IS NOT A BRIDGE. IT IS USING TWO STEROIDS CONSECUTIVELY DURING THE SAME CYCLE.

Then what is a blast & cruise you ask? It's basically multiple cycles 'bridged' together with a small dose of test and sometimes a low dose of another anabolic like deca, eq, or mast, or maybe even some peptides.

So to answer your question (why do people commonly overlap PH's), it is common practice because in theory it makes sense to a lot of people, and in reality they still make great gains. 25 years ago it 'made sense' to not use testosterone when there were much more anabolic and less androgenic substances out there. (sounds stupid now huh?) You can still make huge gains with tren only. Test is not needed if your goal is just to get huge. So who's right? The guy who's 250lbs of ripped muscle who only uses tren? Or the guy who's 250 pounds of ripped muscle that uses test with all of his cycles?

My point is this, whether or not you are overlapping, or just running one compound then switching to another, you will still make good gains. YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY. It's just that running a cycle for an extra 25% longer will yield more gains, period. So if you start with X amount of compound 1 and X amount of compound 2, it is most effective to string them together for the longest cycle you can handle. The less you overlap, the longer you can run it. The longer you run it, the more gains you make. The 'transition' will be 'smooth' regardless of an overlap.
 
i wrote this in fireworks thread and reposted it here,
fair enough im not arguing that running shorter cycle with overlap will bring more gains than a longer cycle without, i said thats obvious. what if he still overlapped and ran it at the length you suggest. he would gain more with overlap then....what are your thoughts for cycle length and toxicity? risk vs benifit? there are so many variable to building a cycle, my point is you can always make it stronger cant you. add more weeks and add more mg per day...i dont mean to be agrumentative about this, im just throwing things im thinking out so we can discuss it.

so i agree that we are splitting hairs also :)

by the way i am running a real bridge right now lol 4 week SD cycle, 2 week dbol bridge, 4 week EPI cycle. well i think you would consider it a bridge. much shorter cycle/bridge with all orals and i put my own spin on it. lol this is why i asked you about cycle length and orals, cause i run them longer than most hahaha
 
1-4: SD
5-8: Epi

vs

1-5: SD
4-8: Epi

Of course the gains will be a little better on the overlapped, because you are running 5 weeks of SD and 5 weeks of Epi vs 4 and 4. But, if you did:

1-5: SD
6-10: Epi

Then I think that would even be better still. Again, splitting fine hairs. In the end, the person with better diet and training would end up with the best results between the last two cycles.
 
Lmao agreed, I was going with 3 week sd and 5 week Epi, then u go and bring out the ten weekers. I like u man!!!!
 
Hey just a quick thought on the kicking out comment, no **** I asked this just to be clear one day a month or two ago. I was thinking ph's take a week or so to kick in but their half lifes are so short my thought was if they take so long to kick in should u wait a couple days after last dose to start pct. And the correct answer was no because their short half life you start day after. So its weird to me to think the effects last past the last dose, I guess. And therefore I would think to myself I want this Epi to be on its way before my last dose of sd.

"Kick-in/ kick-out" whatwcwr u want to call it hahaha, So thats what a amateurs thought process looks like lol feel free to poke fun. This is a great topic!!!
 
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