Bridge epi cycle into.....?

neuronation

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So, I'm nearing the end of my first cycle (epi), and seeing as how the sides have been pretty mild (even at 60mgs), and the gains not quite as impressive as I would have liked, I would like to bridge this into something else (the epi has been solo, btw).
Any thoughts?
It does not necessarily have to be legal, but I would really like to stay away from oils/injectables if I can.
I'm assuming it wouldn't make sense to take another methylated steroid, right? Or else I would just stay on the epi longer, and it would do the same(ish) thing?
Help would be appreciated. Oral is preferred (:shhh:). But I wouldnt mind something a bit stronger... this epi has just been a bit of a let down.... Or, I don't know if its been a let down, maybe I've just handled the sides really well? In any case, I'd like to extend this cycle and get the most out of it I can.

Thanks guys
 
Tomorrow, it will have been a full 4 weeks. 30/45/45/60 so far. Brawn epi for the first 3 weeks, Olympus Ep15tane for this last week, and will continue it for the rest of cycle.
Planned on a 6 week cycle
 
neuronation said:
Tomorrow, it will have been a full 4 weeks. 30/45/45/60 so far. Brawn epi for the first 3 weeks, Olympus Ep15tane for this last week, and will continue it for the rest of cycle.
Planned on a 6 week cycle
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The gains aren't impressive because it barely started kicking in. Also what do you define as unempressive? Whats your before and after weight so far?
 
neuronation said:
.... Or, I don't know if its been a let down, maybe I've just handled the sides really well?
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Are you judging your cycle by the strength of your sides?!

Has your strength or weight changed? Noticeable physique improvements? Increases in baseline lifts etc?
 
My weight has gone up ~6lbs... But I don't know how much muscle that is.
Yes, my strength has increased. My lifts have been ~10% higher on average since starting.
I dunno. I just want MORE. This **** has made me hungry (so to speak).
Stronger. Bigger. Better. Faster. Now.
I've just tolerated the **** well, figured I could add something fun to extend this sha-bang.
 
neuronation said:
My weight has gone up ~6lbs... But I don't know how much muscle that is.
Yes, my strength has increased. My lifts have been ~10% higher on average since starting.
I dunno. I just want MORE. This **** has made me hungry (so to speak).
Stronger. Bigger. Better. Faster. Now.
I've just tolerated the **** well, figured I could add something fun to extend this sha-bang.
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Just finish up your 6 weeks. The next 2 weeks should be fun
 
neuronation said:
My weight has gone up ~6lbs... But I don't know how much muscle that is. Yes, my strength has increased. My lifts have been ~10% higher on average since starting. I dunno. I just want MORE. This **** has made me hungry (so to speak). Stronger. Bigger. Better. Faster. Now. I've just tolerated the **** well, figured I could add something fun to extend this sha-bang.
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Inside four weeks and you're up 6lbs? That's not bad at all. Are you wanting to crazy explode or something?

If so, and given it's your first cycle so you'll be "all about the size" go for something legal or illegal that's an insane mass builder but wet as ****. Something like Dianabol or Anadrol in the illegal orals line. In terms of legal PH's, not sure what's legal if you're from the states, your laws are harsh as hell!!

After a few cycles of doing that you will lose the urge to balloon as much I think but for now, there's your "fun".

That said, after 6 weeks of anything methylated it's obligatory to advise you not to do any more orals. And make sure you line a decent PCT up that includes a SERM.
 
Thanks guys.
Yeah, I have nolva for PCT, going to buy some Reduct xt and DAA along with PCT assist. (Is this good btw, for a PCT?)

What about Tr3n or Tr3st (specifically those chemicals from Olympus labs), if you want to refer to them as something else, thats fine, but Im specifically talking about THOSE chemicals (and not trenbolone, for example).

Would Tr3n or Tr3st be a good addition this far in, or no?
 
neuronation said:
Thanks guys. Yeah, I have nolva for PCT, going to buy some Reduct xt and DAA along with PCT assist. (Is this good btw, for a PCT?) What about Tr3n or Tr3st (specifically those chemicals from Olympus labs), if you want to refer to them as something else, thats fine, but Im specifically talking about THOSE chemicals (and not trenbolone, for example). Would Tr3n or Tr3st be a good addition this far in, or no?
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Never done either, but plenty on here rave about trestolone so that could be an option. I'm about to run my first cycle of tren ace (trenbolone), but no idea what tren (PH) is like?!

They're both pretty harsh compounds for a first cycle from what I understand, and you may want to do your PCT then a break (time on + PCT <= time off)and then dive into them once you've read up fully on their action, dosing, suitable stacking, support supplements and possible side effects.
 
neuronation said:
Thanks guys. Yeah, I have nolva for PCT, going to buy some Reduct xt and DAA along with PCT assist. (Is this good btw, for a PCT?) What about Tr3n or Tr3st (specifically those chemicals from Olympus labs), if you want to refer to them as something else, thats fine, but Im specifically talking about THOSE chemicals (and not trenbolone, for example). Would Tr3n or Tr3st be a good addition this far in, or no?
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Just a thought, I absolutely loved topical dienelone, sold as Trenazone by Antaeus Labs originally. I guarantee you will love that stuff and it will avoid putting too much stress on your liver as it's not an oral.

I personally suffered from a bit of a libido crash, puffy nipples, higher BP and night sweats though (nothing major but noticeable apart from the sweats which were insane), but it should solve your craving for some stronger side effects and the urge to train is incredible. Dose at 150mg ED (75mg AM 75mg PM).
 
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