BPMartyr's Masochistic Suspended Animation

Mulletsoldier said:
You ever tried Sumo's BP? You more than likely have, but I would just thought I'd check. I had to switch as well and it has saved my back alot of trouble.
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Actually I never have but I was under the impression they put more emphasis on the legs vs back. I am wanting them for back thickness and upper trap development. I have a previously injured lower back however that I really need to watch. No 455 for 12 for me! :D
 
bpmartyr said:
Actually I never have but I was under the impression they put more emphasis on the legs vs back. I am wanting them for back thickness and upper trap development. I have a previously injured lower back however that I really need to watch. No 455 for 12 for me! :D
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Yeah they do emphasize hams and glutes, but they are a back saver that is for sure. I was thinking you could keep the weight relatively low and that way lessen the ROM on the legs to emphasize your back more without putting a huge amount of stress on your lower back. I guess the other thing you could try would be a heightened Rack Dead, maybe an inch above the knee, keeping the weight nice and low and keeping the reps super controlled. I mean, that weigh flexion at the lowerback would be reduced, plus you'd be using your lats more than a Sumo.
 
hi everyone trying to follow along but having a hard time lol so are you running the 1-test inject or still transdermal and what is the irritant factor everyone is talking about? Is that only with 1-test suspension? as I am pinning 1-t cyp 4 x a week right now and feeling great.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Yeah they do emphasize hams and glutes, but they are a back saver that is for sure. I was thinking you could keep the weight relatively low and that way lessen the ROM on the legs to emphasize your back more without putting a huge amount of stress on your lower back. I guess the other thing you could try would be a heightened Rack Dead, maybe an inch above the knee, keeping the weight nice and low and keeping the reps super controlled. I mean, that weigh flexion at the lowerback would be reduced, plus you'd be using your lats more than a Sumo.
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Rack deads it may be.


mixedup said:
hi everyone trying to follow along but having a hard time lol so are you running the 1-test inject or still transdermal and what is the irritant factor everyone is talking about? Is that only with 1-test suspension? as I am pinning 1-t cyp 4 x a week right now and feeling great.
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No, the 1T is transdermal and is known to be quite an irritant. Some report discomfort in a transdermal, I do not. 1Tcyp tends to be less irritating if at all. I have a vial of 1T suspension that I may dabble with after the transdermal is gone, much to the chagrin of some.
 
Update Day 39

Frustrated. Those DL's were too hard on the lower back and gave me a bit of a pull. All the extra sleep I have been getting only exasperates the problem as I normally get about 5hrs and wake up with a strong feeling back. Now that I am getting 8-10 at a stretch I wake up stiff and sore.

Long story short, my back was too tweaked to do legs as scheduled on Sunday and Monday, although better, did not feel 100%. So today I feel great and the friggin gym is closed. Sigh. Oh well, couple days off never hurt anyone right?

Dosing at:
Test suspension 75mg ed (25ga pin working much better)
1Test transdermal 200mg ed
superdrol 20mg ed
T3 ~12.5 mg ed
Letro .25mg ed

Have 10ml left of the 1Test trans which will get me my second dose today and two more full days. I am still undecided on using the 1Test suspension I have left. It would be nice to continue but I am also very sick of being tired half the time. Besides, now that the superdrol is in the mix, there really isn't a need for it it the cycle. If I do continue it will be for posterity only (and your viewing pleasure). Either way, once the 1T has reached cessation I will bump the superdrol to 30mg as I have found that to be my sweet spot as far as returns/sides.

My weight has been hovering right at 180 (starting weight 165 but I have packed a little fat on). Probably need to up the cals a little more to see much of a mass increase but my primary focus for this cycle is strength and that is coming along at a more than acceptable pace. If I can hold onto the strength gains through a leaning phase and post cycle therapy, even ending at my starting weight but stronger, I will be a happy camper.

I actually started the superdrol sooner than originally planned as it was going to be part of the leaning phase with the higher T3 dose. I decided to incorporate it earlier to take advantage of it's strength gaining properties while at above maint. cals. I will be using TRN/ZOL at the tail end of the cycle in it's place.
 
That sucks DL's are not an option for you BP. They are by far my fav exercises. Though, there are def other options.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
That sucks DL's are not an option for you BP. They are by far my fav exercises. Though, there are def other options.
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Tbars are my fav for back but I just like to add in some variety. Speaking of TBar, I have never been able to find out how much the bar weighs on that lying TBar row. Anyone know?
 
bpmartyr said:
Tbars are my fav for back but I just like to add in some variety. Speaking of TBar, I have never been able to find out how much the bar weighs on that lying TBar row. Anyone know?
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On the Hammer Strength type fully prone ones? Or the donkey-row T-Bars? I just put an Olympic Bar in the corner and add plates so I know exactly how much is on there.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
On the Hammer Strength type fully prone ones? Or the donkey-row T-Bars? I just put an Olympic Bar in the corner and add plates so I know exactly how much is on there.
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Honestly, I don't know what it is called. You lay prone but at an incline. The bar is fixed to the base of the machine with a swivel/u type joint and you just slide plates on the end. Looks like this:


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yeahright said:
CONGRATULATIONS!
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Why thank you kind sir! Next stop, 1st degree.:bruce1:
 
bpmartyr said:
Honestly, I don't know what it is called. You lay prone but at an incline. The bar is fixed to the base of the machine with a swivel/u type joint and you just slide plates on the end. Looks like this:


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Holy crap you got big BP..Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I think that bar only weighs about 20lbs, if that. I don't like using that thing because I don't feel I get the contraction from the corner thing.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Holy crap you got big BP..Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I think that bar only weighs about 20lbs, if that. I don't like using that thing because I don't feel I get the contraction from the corner thing.
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Corner thing?
 
bpmartyr said:
Corner thing?
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That was a really odd sounding post, my mind was somewhere else when I made it.

I do not like the lying T-Bars because I feel I get a better contraction from placing an Olympic Bar in the corner of a room and loading plates on it. Plus, you know exactly how much weight you are lifting then.
 
I don't know that bar always seems pretty heavy to me maybe because I have short arms and the angle is weird. how is the strength and weight coming. I'm up 9lbs on day 18 and the pheradrol just arrived yesterday :) plus i'm thinking that cyp i;'m running should start kicking in about 3 days hope it leans me out as much as you
 
mixedup said:
I don't know that bar always seems pretty heavy to me maybe because I have short arms and the angle is weird. how is the strength and weight coming. I'm up 9lbs on day 18 and the pheradrol just arrived yesterday :) plus i'm thinking that cyp i;'m running should start kicking in about 3 days hope it leans me out as much as you
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Seems heavy to me too.

I updated today on the weight and strength but it got buried in our misc banter. Here ya go:

bpmartyr said:
Update Day 39

Frustrated. Those DL's were too hard on the lower back and gave me a bit of a pull. All the extra sleep I have been getting only exasperates the problem as I normally get about 5hrs and wake up with a strong feeling back. Now that I am getting 8-10 at a stretch I wake up stiff and sore.

Long story short, my back was too tweaked to do legs as scheduled on Sunday and Monday, although better, did not feel 100%. So today I feel great and the friggin gym is closed. Sigh. Oh well, couple days off never hurt anyone right?

Dosing at:
Test suspension 75mg ed (25ga pin working much better)
1Test transdermal 200mg ed
superdrol 20mg ed
T3 ~12.5 mg ed
Letro .25mg ed

Have 10ml left of the 1Test trans which will get me my second dose today and two more full days. I am still undecided on using the 1Test suspension I have left. It would be nice to continue but I am also very sick of being tired half the time. Besides, now that the superdrol is in the mix, there really isn't a need for it it the cycle. If I do continue it will be for posterity only (and your viewing pleasure). Either way, once the 1T has reached cessation I will bump the superdrol to 30mg as I have found that to be my sweet spot as far as returns/sides.

My weight has been hovering right at 180 (starting weight 165 but I have packed a little fat on). Probably need to up the cals a little more to see much of a mass increase but my primary focus for this cycle is strength and that is coming along at a more than acceptable pace. If I can hold onto the strength gains through a leaning phase and post cycle therapy, even ending at my starting weight but stronger, I will be a happy camper.

I actually started the superdrol sooner than originally planned as it was going to be part of the leaning phase with the higher T3 dose. I decided to incorporate it earlier to take advantage of it's strength gaining properties while at above maint. cals. I will be using TRN/ZOL at the tail end of the cycle in it's place.
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After the 1-test trans is gone please give the 1-test suspension a few shots I am so interested in doing this and if you were to tell me it wasnt that bad I would probbly start the next day! LOL but no lieing! be a gunie pig for the sake of science and for every other baord member that loaded up before the ban and now hates bathing in nasty smelling carriers twice a day.
 
mixedup said:
15lbs so far not bad not bad i'd be happy especially if it's a pretty lean 15
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I am happy, even though it is not lean. Main goal is strength for this cycle, not mass.

scarfacebling said:
After the 1-test trans is gone please give the 1-test suspension a few shots I am so interested in doing this and if you were to tell me it wasnt that bad I would probbly start the next day! LOL but no lieing! be a gunie pig for the sake of science and for every other baord member that loaded up before the ban and now hates bathing in nasty smelling carriers twice a day.
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How can I say no to that eh? I'll giver er a go. My mentor, Skye, will be disappointed. :D

And I am with ya on the transdermal bathing. What a pain in the arse.
 
bpmartyr said:
I am happy, even though it is not lean. Main goal is strength for this cycle, not mass.



How can I say no to that eh? I'll giver er a go. My mentor, Skye, will be disappointed. :D

And I am with ya on the transdermal bathing. What a pain in the arse.
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you know you can just pay someone to beat your ass with paddle along with the whips and chains, then you would at least get a $$$ off at the end. :D
 
Skye said:
you know you can just pay someone to beat your ass with paddle along with the whips and chains, then you would at least get a $$$ off at the end. :D
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Hmmm, sounds good. Do you charge by the hour or is a flat rate?
 
bpmartyr said:
Hmmm, sounds good. Do you charge by the hour or is a flat rate?
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flat rate because I farm out any guys and ugly chicks to the local house of ill repute. :D They work cheap :D
 
Update Day 40

Lower back feeling good but I wanted to give it another day so I hit my A set instead of legs (B set). Weight or reps up on almost every lift. Got over ambitious on DB French press' and screwed the pooch on those. Overall a great workout. Had the day off from work so I napped, ate and played games with the kids all day. (got my ass handed to me in Monopoly)

Went to MA class in the evening. It was a light workout luckily since my endurance has really gone to **** since I quit the cardio. Oh well, I'll be back on my knees in no time. :D

Tomorrow will be the last day of trans 1T. Friday I will hit up some 1T suspension in an as of yet undisclosed location.

Time for bed.:yawn:
 
Question, have you ever thought about trying that as a 1-T decanoate? It would be much less painful and you could reduce your injection volume considerablely.

Oh and congrates on your gains bro.
 
Skye said:
Question, have you ever thought about trying that as a 1-T decanoate? It would be much less painful and you could reduce your injection volume considerablely.
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It's not that I enjoy being a pin cushion or that I am a huge fan of 1Test (although I like the strength gains). I was just bored and putting something together predominantly by what I had on hand. Budjet can be a little tight at times and my wife wouldn't appretiate an overseas powder order at this junction. :) Bad enough that I told her this cycle wouldn't cost much and then I start botchin lab experiments and having to order more vials and filters LOL. Oh yeah, add the copay and antibiotic script to the cost and yeah, I should have just bucked up for a long ester based cycle. But what fun would that be.:bruce1:


Skye said:
Oh and congrates on your gains bro.
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Thank you.
 
Skye said:
i was wondering if you wanted to convert the 1T over to deca?
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Ahhhh, I get ya. I would but I sold the remainder of my powder as the deal was too sweet to pass on. It would be interesting to know how to do that however.
 
Aha! I see you two have been conspiring behind my very back!!!

Skye, BP.. you two stay away from each other.. It makes me very jealous.... very very jealous.
 
Ubiquitous said:
Aha! I see you two have been conspiring behind my very back!!!

Skye, BP.. you two stay away from each other.. It makes me very jealous.... very very jealous.
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Never behind your back!


Just under your nose. :D

Don't be afraid Ubi, perfect love casts out fear.


1John4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment. He who fears is not made perfect in love.
 
sky could you post about this conversion you are talking about? is it fairly easy and what would the conversion rate be meaning if i had say 25 grams 1-test what would it be after this lil procedure?
 
Update Day 41,42

Hit my B set yesterday for bi's, quads and hams followed by cardio kboxing class to get the heart pumpin a bit. Lucky for me today is an off day cause my lower back is fuzucked. Hope I recover quickly.

Yesterday was also the last of the transdermal 1test so today as promised I hit the rt glute for a cc of 1test suspension. So far no more initial pain than the test suspension. Tomorrow may tell a diff tale. Can't tell you if the suspension has a more immediate effect on lethargy as I took a 3+ hour nap directly after injecting.

I am slated to do my A set tomorrow but will play it by ear, or lower back to be anatomically correct.
 
scarfacebling said:
sky could you post about this conversion you are talking about? is it fairly easy and what would the conversion rate be meaning if i had say 25 grams 1-test what would it be after this lil procedure?
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I am still working out all the details but when I asked about posting it here It was (nicely) shot down. the board I think doesn't want any more conversion discussions that include ways to get steroids from cattle pellets. while I don't like the new rules I can certainly understand them esp with all the atention AM gets nowdays. When I get the details and the post done I will ask if I can still link it here or not.

to answer your question it s a little more complex then a normal conversion but not impossible.
 
Sky I understand -- This used to be my one stop shop now I go over to a few other boards --- Its amazing how bad some of the advise is out there but i have no choice cuz of changes around here plus theres way too many superrol logs and whatever the new latest designer oral blah blah enough babaling -- BPMarty I am waiting to here about the pain on that 1test - or are you in the fetal position on your coach
 
scarfacebling said:
BPMarty I am waiting to here about the pain on that 1test - or are you in the fetal position on your coach
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I am fine. It WAS a glute though. I'll hit a delt today. It's my lower back that just about has me in a fetal position. It's loosening up some so hopefully I can train upper body today.
 
glad no pain with the suspension HOpe you back loosens up it's a pain to not be able to work as hard during a cycle I can barely do legs now because my physician wan'ts my knees mri'd
 
mixedup said:
glad no pain with the suspension HOpe you back loosens up it's a pain to not be able to work as hard during a cycle I can barely do legs now because my physician wan'ts my knees mri'd
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Thanks. A little ice and some ibuprofen are working wonders. I am going to give it a go at the gym. I will probably just wear a belt to be safe.
 
Update Day 43

Went ahead with my A set at the gym. Just wore the belt the whole time and my back is fine. Strength still slowly increasing, up in weight or reps on most lifts. Hit 20 reps on BW dips which is a PR for me. (I am only using dips for warmup right now so no extra weight strapped on)

Pussed out and hit the other glute with the 1T. Maybe I'll be brave enough for the delt tomorrow. :D
 
BP how is the lethargy on the 1-test? I have been tired all week. I am on week 1-t cyp probally just started really kicking in with the cyp esther have you seen bad lethargy on the transdermal or supsension?
 
mixedup said:
BP how is the lethargy on the 1-test? I have been tired all week. I am on week 1-t cyp probally just started really kicking in with the cyp esther have you seen bad lethargy on the transdermal or supsension?
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Sunday was my last day of 1Test. Lethargy was killing me. Feeling better already. The suspension seemed to be worse than the transdermal. Prob due to the fast release 1x ed vs the slow release trans 2x ed. The actual pain from the injection was not bad at all.
 
bpmartyr said:
Sunday was my last day of 1Test. Lethargy was killing me. Feeling better already. The suspension seemed to be worse than the transdermal. Prob due to the fast release 1x ed vs the slow release trans 2x ed. The actual pain from the injection was not bad at all.
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Ok it's not just me. I might be coming of the 1-T soon the lethargy this week is killing me and I know with the cyp eshter I probablly have 2-3 more weeks of it. Good think I have jet fuel and kranker saved up lol
 
bpmartyr said:
Sunday was my last day of 1Test. Lethargy was killing me. Feeling better already. The suspension seemed to be worse than the transdermal. Prob due to the fast release 1x ed vs the slow release trans 2x ed. The actual pain from the injection was not bad at all.
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I breathe a sigh of relief that the 1-test is over for you. I love it's gains but hate the sides!! Sweet test is left, right??

Keep the posts coming!
 
motiv8er said:
I breathe a sigh of relief that the 1-test is over for you. I love it's gains but hate the sides!! Sweet test is left, right??

Keep the posts coming!
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I will get back into the swing of posting here real quick. Schedule has been hectic along with soul crushing lethargy = no posts. :D

I am on Test and SD right now. Will be ramping the T3 up here before long and adding some cardio to lean a tad. The tail end will be MTRN & MZOL.
 
Update Day 48

Dosing:
~75mg test suspension 1x ed
10mg superdrol 3x ed (30mg total, obviously)
~12.5mcg T3 AM fasted
.25-.5mg Letro eod PM
37.5mg MDHT pre workout only
1.5 scoops Chaos pre workout only (shameless plug)
Cissus 2caps 2x ed (To combat dry joints from superdrol)
REM-R3G 3-4 caps PM (Holy friggin vivid dreams Batman)

Am feeling great overall. The lethargy has subsided and I have re-entered the world of the living.

Strength gains are coming along nicely. Not pushing it. Slow and steady. Don't need injury.

Libido: Whats that?

Back pumps are appearing since bumping to 30mg. I will increase water/taurine/minerals to combat but I may have to drop back to 20mg. This has not been an issue for me in the past. Same deal with M1T though. 20mg with no discernable sides one run and the next time 15mg about leaves me paralyzed.

Endurance seems to be suffering during the minor cardio sessions I am doing strictly for health reasons. In the past superdrol has made me feel like superman in this department.

Did my bi's, quads and hammies this afternoon. Still taking it easy on the squats as my back is still not 100%. Last couple of days my job has had me driving for over 6hrs ed. That only exasperates my lower back issues sitting for that long. Prob not helping back pumps either.
 
Update Day 51

Made up a new batch of suspension couple days ago and think it to be the best one yet as far as concentration of solute. That and the larger gauge needle not leaving the particulate behind and I think I have been getting a higher dose with each injection along with drawing up a couple extra tics on the syringe each time :D.

That being said, I had somke serious test flu today. Just woke up from a 6 hr nap actually. Screwed my gym schedule as did having to work yesterday. Thursday was my last time in. I have the entire week off from work so I will get back in the swing hopefully.

Weight is sitting ~183-184 right now. Pretty good for eating close to maintenance. I really don't want to get any heavier right now and I especially don't want any more fat on me. I am looking to increase strength a bit more here leading into the cut phase and try and maintain it throughout.

Lower back feeling pretty good right now. Hopefully will be close to 100% by tuesday so I can stack a little poundage on the squat bar. As far as lower back pumps, I dropped the superdrol to 20mg and they have reduced. I will continue with extra water/minerals/taurine and consider bumping up again in a few days.
 
I can empathize with the back situation. My luminescent heart goes out to you, my pain-riddled young human. Look to the east at dawn and make a tobacco offering of chew to the wind god.. all shall be good after a good sweat lodge session.

whoa, where am I?
 
Ubiquitous said:
I can empathize with the back situation. My luminescent heart goes out to you, my pain-riddled young human. Look to the east at dawn and make a tobacco offering of chew to the wind god.. all shall be good after a good sweat lodge session.

whoa, where am I?
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I literally just spit my chocolate mint whey shake through my nose you bashtad!

Thanks for the uh... words. :D
 
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