BPC guidance

hyperCat

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Planning to give BPC a run to see if I can get my shoulder pain under control before opting for surgery. I’ve done some reading and it’s kinda all over the place. Can someone share their dosing/frequency? I plan on getting a 10mg vial. It sounds like I can reconstitute with 10ml of bac water. Is this correct? Also, MA has several products- w/TB500, w/arginate salt, w/KPV, etc. Any recommendations and is there a difference in how to reconstitute these versions? Also, plan to research this by pinning directly into shoulder. Is sub-q okay or should I go IM?

Really just looking for guidance from the forum so I have a clear understanding of how to use this. Thanks!
 
I use a BPC and TB500 mix. 10mg/10mg -total 20mg. 3ml of bac water is the amount to use for dilution . If your pinning there is no reason to get the arginate salt. I go with 300mcg twice daily but you might not need that much. My dosing equates out to about 4u 2xday, if you are using a 5mg/5mg the units will be different. There is debate on pinning anywhere or close to the injury site, I go with as close to the injury site as possible reason being is it will work systemically or locally. Subq is perfectly fine no need to go IM.
It's definitely helped with my old man knees and shoulder and currently using for a pulled groin. It really depends on the injury though, a complete tear or bursitis it might not do much but worth a try. You might want to see an ortho as well, doing some PT helped my knees a heck of a lot. My fav site for peptide info is peptide dosages dot com but my go to for peptides is MA
 
ironviking said:
I use a BPC and TB500 mix. 10mg/10mg -total 20mg. 3ml of bac water is the amount to use for dilution . If your pinning there is no reason to get the arginate salt. I go with 300mcg twice daily but you might not need that much. My dosing equates out to about 4u 2xday, if you are using a 5mg/5mg the units will be different. There is debate on pinning anywhere or close to the injury site, I go with as close to the injury site as possible reason being is it will work systemically or locally. Subq is perfectly fine no need to go IM.
It's definitely helped with my old man knees and shoulder and currently using for a pulled groin. It really depends on the injury though, a complete tear or bursitis it might not do much but worth a try. You might want to see an ortho as well, doing some PT helped my knees a heck of a lot. My fav site for peptide info is peptide dosages dot com but my go to for peptides is MA
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Great info - thank you! So how many ml for each injection and do you just use a slin pin?
 
Slin pin yes. ml depends on dosing you'd be measuring in units though
There are a lot of variables - single peptide, combination (like I'm using), mgs of peptide, and ml dilution. Say if you got a 5mg bottle and diluted with 3mL the units would be different as opposed to a 10mg bottle diluted with 3mL.
The site I mentioned has all the info to easily calculate that out and in some cases already calculated.
Most research subjects start out with 250mcg per day to assess tolerance and go up to around 500mcg per day...or higher. A once per day inj. is probably ok I prefer two because the half life is still somewhat unknown.
 
ironviking said:
Slin pin yes. ml depends on dosing you'd be measuring in units though
There are a lot of variables - single peptide, combination (like I'm using), mgs of peptide, and ml dilution. Say if you got a 5mg bottle and diluted with 3mL the units would be different as opposed to a 10mg bottle diluted with 3mL.
The site I mentioned has all the info to easily calculate that out and in some cases already calculated.
Most research subjects start out with 250mcg per day to assess tolerance and go up to around 500mcg per day...or higher. A once per day inj. is probably ok I prefer two because the half life is still somewhat unknown.
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Yep, got it. Placed my order today. Going with the 10/10 combo of BPC and TB. I’ve read where it’s systemic so no need to inject where the pain is, although there seems to be several anecdotes where it seemed to make a difference. Hopefully this will help and I can avoid surgery. It’s an impingement which a lot of times is due to inflammation, so there’s potential I guess. Would be nice to get back to lifting a little heavier.
 
I usually get 5mg BPC vials and constitute it with 1ml BAC - this makes the math on dosing really easy.

I've found I get the best results with BPC when I dose 250mcg twice a day - morning and night. From everything I've read and the years of experience I have with BPC, it very much requires injection at the site of injury. I would mix 2ml in the 10g bottle to make measuring doses easiest - .05ml = 250mcg. I use .3ml slin pins, as it makes measuring easier than the 1ml pins.

TB500 is systemic and doesn't require injection at the site of injury. BPC works quickly and the effects are quite pronounced...it's difficult to pinpoint the effects of TB-500. It's hard for me to say I got a lot from TB, but I've paired it with BPC a number of times to expedite recovery as well as I can. But, again, it's difficult for me to speak to its added benefits.
 
delsolrob said:
I usually get 5mg BPC vials and constitute it with 1ml BAC - this makes the math on dosing really easy.

I've found I get the best results with BPC when I dose 250mcg twice a day - morning and night. From everything I've read and the years of experience I have with BPC, it very much requires injection at the site of injury. I would mix 2ml in the 10g bottle to make measuring doses easiest - .05ml = 250mcg. I use .3ml slin pins, as it makes measuring easier than the 1ml pins.

TB500 is systemic and doesn't require injection at the site of injury. BPC works quickly and the effects are quite pronounced...it's difficult to pinpoint the effects of TB-500. It's hard for me to say I got a lot from TB, but I've paired it with BPC a number of times to expedite recovery as well as I can. But, again, it's difficult for me to speak to its added benefits.
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Definitely a lot of contradictory info out there. I’m going to pin my shoulder where the injury is cause there’s enough ppl saying it matters and there isn’t really a downside to it other than being a little more difficult to reach. Might have my wife just do it.
 
hyperCat said:
Definitely a lot of contradictory info out there. I’m going to pin my shoulder where the injury is cause there’s enough ppl saying it matters and there isn’t really a downside to it other than being a little more difficult to reach. Might have my wife just do it.
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I used it on my knee and also had a minor ankle injury (same leg) - pinning my knee helped my knee quickly and never saw any benefit on my ankle, until I started pinning it directly.
 
delsolrob said:
I used it on my knee and also had a minor ankle injury (same leg) - pinning my knee helped my knee quickly and never saw any benefit on my ankle, until I started pinning it directly.
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That tracks with what I’ve read other ppl say about it. I haven’t received mine yet but I’ve been thinking of how to pin my shoulder. Trying to pinch the skin there doesn’t work so good, so just wondering if I can just pin it straight into the back side of my shoulder with a slin pin. That would likely be more IM, which I’m not sure matters or not.
 
I’ve seen videos of people using a chip clip like what you would use to close a bag of chips to pinch their skin and then they use a slin pen
 
kid amnesiac said:
I’ve seen videos of people using a chip clip like what you would use to close a bag of chips to pinch their skin and then they use a slin pen
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Yeah I saw one of those vids. It was in the front delt I saw, and my pain is more on the back side which is a little trickier. I’ll figure it out, but it would be very simple if I could just pin directly into that area but like I said, that’s probably a shallow IM injection and not sure it’d be optimal.
 
Use a downward angle maybe even a 45 degree angle at the site and you should be able to keep it subq. IM with a slin pin will be tough and really not recommend, they just weren't designed to go in muscle tissue. It might be tricky at first but I'm sure you'll get it.

Side note: have you seen an ortho about your shoulder? Impingement is usually felt at the front or top side of the delta by the acromium process. Side and rear side pain could be the start of frozen shoulder. I've had that and it sucks very little will help but it will heal on its own without surgery...just takes a while. I'd be interested to see how BPC affects it though. Mine healed before I knew about peptides.
 
ironviking said:
Use a downward angle maybe even a 45 degree angle at the site and you should be able to keep it subq. IM with a slin pin will be tough and really not recommend, they just weren't designed to go in muscle tissue. It might be tricky at first but I'm sure you'll get it.

Side note: have you seen an ortho about your shoulder? Impingement is usually felt at the front or top side of the delta by the acromium process. Side and rear side pain could be the start of frozen shoulder. I've had that and it sucks very little will help but it will heal on its own without surgery...just takes a while. I'd be interested to see how BPC affects it though. Mine healed before I knew about peptides.
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Yeah, I’ve seen an ortho about it. It’s the same issue I had with my other shoulder several years ago. Ended up getting a subacromial decompression on that one. Reason I was thinking of pinning in the rear of the shoulder was because that’s where the ortho shot it with cortisone a couple times. But I do get pain in the top and side as well with overhead movement. It hurts worse in the back shoulder when I bench press tho. I think I can pinch enough skin to have my wife pin it more on the side.
 
I'm blessed, my gf is a pharmacist and great at injections - she's given me so many BPC injections and I've actually sold her on the benefits - she uses is too now
 
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I've researched a boatload of BPC on my shoulders and knees over the past few years. I'm a fan. For research purposes of course
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Yep, I went with MA BPC+TB. Almost two weeks in now. ~300mcg for shoulder and ~300mcg for my biceps tendinitis. Hoping to start seeing some results soon. When you guys are researching this stuff, are you laying off the weights? I’m still working out? Maybe I should take a break but I’ve been able to manage it, although I might see better results with a break.

Also, how long can I keep the unused Bac water? I’ve seen some ppl say 30 days at room temp, and others say it’s fine well beyond that. So it’s currently ~15 days old. Can I still use it to reconstitute another vial of BPC or should I use a new vial of Bac every time I reconstitute? I don’t want to waste a vial of BPC if it’s only going to be good for a week or two.
 
hyperCat said:
Yep, I went with MA BPC+TB. Almost two weeks in now. ~300mcg for shoulder and ~300mcg for my biceps tendinitis. Hoping to start seeing some results soon. When you guys are researching this stuff, are you laying off the weights? I’m still working out? Maybe I should take a break but I’ve been able to manage it, although I might see better results with a break.

Also, how long can I keep the unused Bac water? I’ve seen some ppl say 30 days at room temp, and others say it’s fine well beyond that. So it’s currently ~15 days old. Can I still use it to reconstitute another vial of BPC or should I use a new vial of Bac every time I reconstitute? I don’t want to waste a vial of BPC if it’s only going to be good for a week or two.
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You should be resting. You can't heal if your still beating on the injury
 
Rest, ice/heat and rehab type stuff is what I do when trying to heal a injury. Then the BPC on top. BPC/TB/HGH in a perfect world:)
 
Smont said:
Rest, ice/heat and rehab type stuff is what I do when trying to heal a injury. Then the BPC on top. BPC/TB/HGH in a perfect world:)
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I knew this was the answer, guess I just had to hear it from someone. Guess it’ll just be legs for a while and maybe some light upper body work that doesn’t aggravate these issues. Hate it cause I have been adding on some decent lean body weight although at the expense of aggravating these injuries. Oh well, thx for the reality check.

Any suggestions about the bac water question I had?
 
The bac water should be fine usually it's 28 days from when initially punctured but if you only punctured once with a sterile needle it should be good for awhile longer. I wouldn't do that in a hospital setting or use it for a year that way but a couple months should be fine.
 
I use my bac water right up to the expiration date on the bottle regardless of when I first used it.

To be honest I was just using bac water for my HGH that expired 2 months ago🤷 when I realized it was expired I started using some injectable L-Carnatine to reconstitute it lol. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

28 days after first use is going to be the generic guideline you get and if you want to air on the side of caution you should probably follow that 28-day rule.

But, I've used it 6 months later with no issues. I also keep my vials sterile in a Ziploc bag and then inside a Tupperware in a cool dry place.
 
hyperCat said:
I knew this was the answer, guess I just had to hear it from someone. Guess it’ll just be legs for a while and maybe some light upper body work that doesn’t aggravate these issues. Hate it cause I have been adding on some decent lean body weight although at the expense of aggravating these injuries. Oh well, thx for the reality check.

Any suggestions about the bac water question I had?
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ironviking said:
The bac water should be fine usually it's 28 days from when initially punctured but if you only punctured once with a sterile needle it should be good for awhile longer. I wouldn't do that in a hospital setting or use it for a year that way but a couple months should be fine.
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ironviking said:
I use a BPC and TB500 mix. 10mg/10mg -total 20mg. 3ml of bac water is the amount to use for dilution . If your pinning there is no reason to get the arginate salt. I go with 300mcg twice daily but you might not need that much. My dosing equates out to about 4u 2xday, if you are using a 5mg/5mg the units will be different. There is debate on pinning anywhere or close to the injury site, I go with as close to the injury site as possible reason being is it will work systemically or locally. Subq is perfectly fine no need to go IM.
It's definitely helped with my old man knees and shoulder and currently using for a pulled groin. It really depends on the injury though, a complete tear or bursitis it might not do much but worth a try. You might want to see an ortho as well, doing some PT helped my knees a heck of a lot. My fav site for peptide info is peptide dosages dot com but my go to for peptides is MA
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