Bloodwork analasys help, low sex drive and ED

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Hello goodfellas, i am writing this after long reserch and reading on the web and this forum.
I am in my 30's and decide it to do my first cycle, since i wanted to go with the safe option, i went wirh Anavar, but the guy that i bought the pills from said that Amavar is a mild steroid and i should stack with Winstrol.
Stared the cycle and took 30mg of anavar and 20mg of Winstrol, for about 7 weeks when i started to get ED, and no sex drive,
Did bloodwork and had FshThen dropped Winstrol and added Test Enanthate, 250mg per week for another 6 weeks with Anavar 30mg. I stopped Anavar in total 10 weeks and continued with Test for another 2 weeks so in total.
Anavar 10 weeks, Winstrol 7-8 weeks and test 6 Weeks.
Full cycle lasted 13 weeks.
I did add HCG when i started with test arround 1000IE per week. I should mention that my sex drive and boners returned when i added Test and HCG. 2 weeks after my last injcetion with Test e i started PCT.
FClomid every OD 50mg and Nolva/tamoxifen 10mg ED.

Blood Analasys durring PCT.
LH 7.05 normal (0.8-7.6)
FSH 8.23 (0.7-11.1)
Prolactin 14.8 (normal 1-16)
Did not have test and estrogen reagent in the lab

I did PCT for about 7 weeks, and had morning woods,

Now a month after finishing PCT and 3.5 months after my last injection i have, no sex drive and ED is present. Did blood work and results are
Test 473 (270-870)
Estrogen LH- 3.1 (0.8-7.6)
Prolactin 28.6 ( normal 1-16.6)
FSH no reagent.

I thought that the symptoms might be from high prolactin and took some Caber 0.25 0.5mg weekly yesterday was my second dose. And i dont feel any different I can get it up but drops quickly.
I know that i did a rookie mistake and should have went with test only first cycle but it is what it is.
Can you help and or give any advice should i do another PCT with higher doses like 50mg every day clomid and 40tamoxifen? Or wait it out, how long does it takee for caber to work. And so you think estrogen is on the low side and the problems might be from it. Thx
 

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I dont see estrogen in there.

You made a mistake not getting pre cycle bloods. 473 may be normal for you, may be too low. Hard to know with out precycle bloods.

I personally dont think using more serms will help, provided you used them for at least 4 weeks at doses you specified.

I say give it time. Its the only way your hormones will normalize. You can continue to take sth like p5p and l dopa for that elevated prolactin.

Do you have any other symptoms besides de novo low libido? How are energy levels? Pumps in the gym?

Libido is a tricky one. I am on 350mg test a week right now and have no libido. Once you start AAS it will never be the same, i am telling you that from experience and others here can confirm. I havent had normal libido in 2 years since i first pinned my a$$.

You cant gauge your recovery by libido.

Time is the only thing that will lead to normalization.

Edit: This is merely a patch up, but i have lost relationships due to this and know how devastating it can feel. Get some pt141. Srs. It has been a life saver for me and is a reliable way to get a boner when needed.

It may not bring back your libido, but it will help you get hard when cialis doesnt work (like for me it never did). Its the only thing that ever worked for me, and i tried test, tren, masteron, proviron, hcg, caber, cialis, viagra... To name a few hehe
 
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It’s hard to tell. Your blood seems fine except your high prolactin which you won’t fix in a single caber dose btw. But no pre blood to compare.. It’s quite possibly simply your own mind and stress making you go soft. The brain is extremely strong and the fact you’re able to get it up but it doesn’t stay hard makes me believe you must be thinking about it and you’re ruining it for yourself. I read a study somewhere cant remember the exact numbers but psychological ED was in fact responsible of 25-30% of people having ED issues.
 
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Thank you guys for the positive words, you are a breath of frehs air.
Thats the thing, i am full of energy, and have nice gym sessions, nice pump, unless i think about it the loss
Of libido and no boners, everything else is fine.
Esteogen levels are lower then 20, and normal is lower then 56, it does not have a specific number. But on the label it says low, I was thinking about pinning hcg for two weeks, but that might get back my sex drive but shut LH and FSH.
So i should continue caber, and try to wait it out, and do blood analasys again.
Thing is i tried viagra, but apart from massive headace did not get very hard, like 80% there .
Yes i know i should have done blood analasys befor o started ped.
Maybe there is a permanent damage somewhere, but i was carefull with the dosage and it is my first cycle and did a proper pct.
The only comparrable things i have, is that i used to watch porn and get horny and jurk off, but now almost nothing turns me on.
 

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This is also a good gauge; are you getting morning wood? If not, then there probably is a physiological issue.

I heard good things about a low dose (5mg a day) cialis long term. May be worth a try, alongside anti prolactin supplement.
 

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This is also a good gauge; are you getting morning wood? If not, then there probably is a physiological issue.

I heard good things about a low dose (5mg a day) cialis long term. May be worth a try, alongside anti prolactin supplement.
Thats the thing, in the middle of PCT i used to have morning and night boners, but now a week or so i have mild night boners and morning ones, and dont feel as good. and as you can see LH was 7.05 and LSH 8.3 higher when on PCT, then after i finished PCT, now LH is at arround 3.1, will be getting another blood analysis tommorow de novo to see FSH and LH again and test and prolactine and estrogen.
I am affraid that something is going on now and that Hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis is sort off shutting down.
Hm, will go and buy cislis and try it out.
 
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You say your estrogen is lower than 20 and is marked as low on your bloodwork? That could definitely be an issue. I can’t function personally on low estrogen and I function way better on higher levels.
 

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You say your estrogen is lower than 20 and is marked as low on your bloodwork? That could definitely be an issue. I can’t function personally on low estrogen and I function way better on higher levels.
Yes i have read that, but how to get my esteogen up, without shutting down LH and FSH, i mean without injecting hcg or test, any ideas.
 

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Clomid will elevate e2 but usually leads to libido issues in itself.

I would wait, get another set of bloods after like 4 we eks, and if test is even lower and you dont feel good, would consider another bout of clomid.

Some may suggest to wait longer, but i know how hard it is to wait while feeling suboptimal.


Just dont gauge things by libido, only by bloods.
Like i told you, 250mg test or 500mg test a week, i have no libido. Its not a good indicator at all.
 
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Clomid will elevate e2 but usually leads to libido issues in itself.

I would wait, get another set of bloods after like 4 we eks, and if test is even lower and you dont feel good, would consider another bout of clomid.

Some may suggest to wait longer, but i know how hard it is to wait while feeling suboptimal.


Just dont gauge things by libido, only by bloods.
Like i told you, 250mg test or 500mg test a week, i have no libido. Its not a good indicator at all.
I agree. Give it 4-5 weeks so your body can try and reach homeostasis. If test levels are within range or supraphysiological levels, it’s the last marker I would check concerning libido issues, I would only mention it if it’s super low. My libido is unchanged on 250,500,750+ of test and in reality the best libido I have is in 150-175mg.
 

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Thanks guys, so the plan is like this, i have withdrawn another blood analysis and will have the results tommorow, hopefully with shbg, and fsh, and exact estrogen levels, then will only take caber 0.5 mg per week for the next 4 weeks, and i will
Do another blood analysis after 4 weeks.
I think it is important to mention that i have lost over 40lbs or 20kg in about 3 months, and l am on abbout 2000 calories per day. I dont eat much beside protein pancakes and rice and chicking a scoop of protein and creatin, and macros are 170gr of protein 150grams of carbo and 35-50gr fats. Maybe i should take some
Vitamins also.
 

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Anyyway, for someone who is in the same place, i started cabergoline, but had sex many times after the last post, i really think it was all in my mind, once i pushed through and had sex the first time now it has all gone back to normal and i can have it up on demand any time i want to. So dont know if caber helped or it was all in my mind, will keep caber for another two months 0.5mg per week and thats it.
Really scared to start second cycle though
 

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