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Blood Work Results

HebrewHulk

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Good evening,

All natural right now as you'd imagine from the results, but edited just to clarify.

Age 32
Weight 240
Height 6 foot 1

Ok,

Free test range was quoted as (50 to 250), I don't know the unit, I think it's NL. My result was 111.

Total T range was (175 to 800). My result was 509.

Though the option for TrT is on the table, I feel it's not low enough to need it. However, I feel like I'll grab some Cialis and run a prohormone this summer to cut down bodyfat and hopefully increase T that way. Any advice, ideas? General discussion purpose, what would you do if this ws your blood work?
 
Run a prohormone to increase T? Your testosterone will tank when you take a pro hormone. Then even if you utilize a SERM, your test levels may not hit the free/total levels you are presently at.

What is your present BF % estimate?

Do you believe you have reached, or are near your genetic potential of building lean muscle?

How long have you been lifting?

What does your work/sleep schedule look like?
 
You might be better off finding a supp that does a good job lowering cortisol and shbg. Your numbers aren't bad - but that would allow you to raise the free test at least. If your going to cause a shutdown at 32 with already good markers....make it a good run. Not a ph and cialis.....my 2 cents
 
I would say bodyfat is 15%.

Def reached limit to build muscle, but should cut at this point.

Lifted 16 years now mostly non stop.

sleep 8 hours easy a night, low stress job.

I feel my t levels are low for my situation.
 
For example if you search normal T levels by age bracket, it should be closer to 600; and people in their 70s usually have T levels in the 500 range. I feel like I could be low. Is there a reliable chart this site has seen before?
 
HebrewHulk said:
Good evening,

All natural right now as you'd imagine from the results, but edited just to clarify.

Age 32
Weight 240
Height 6 foot 1

Ok,

Free test range was quoted as (50 to 250), I don't know the unit, I think it's NL. My result was 111.

Total T range was (175 to 800). My result was 509.

Though the option for TrT is on the table, I feel it's not low enough to need it. However, I feel like I'll grab some Cialis and run a prohormone this summer to cut down bodyfat and hopefully increase T that way. Any advice, ideas? General discussion purpose, what would you do if this ws your blood work?
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Are you saying that a Dr offered you TRT based upon those numbers??
 
It's available. It seems more by choice then by recommendation. I def can though. I'd prefer NOT to, but I honestly feel like my numbers are LOW for a 32 year old.
 
HebrewHulk said:
It's available. It seems more by choice then by recommendation. I def can though. I'd prefer NOT to, but I honestly feel like my numbers are LOW for a 32 year old.
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TRT that is available on demand isn't really TRT in the clasical sense. It's really just buying Testosterone.
... Which some of us certainly do.

Brother, you definitely don't seem to know a lot about Test, and steroids and such (which isn't a crime).... But if I were you, I wouldn't rush into TRT, before you understand it a little better.
If you start TRT, you go into it knowing that you will probably have to purchase and use hormones for the rest if your life, in order for your body to function.
 
Could I do no cycle and do a PCT to jumpstart natural levels? Example, nolva for 4 weeks or clomid for 4 weeks?
 
So, yeah, you won’t get trt from ANY doctor with those numbers. TT needs to be under 300. Unless you go to Titan, where you need to be under 400.
 
I mean... I don’t really think there’s anything wrong with you at all.

If you just want to take steroids, do it. Or don’t. Nobody can stop you and nobody is going to hold your hand either.

And hey, if you WANT trt then using gear is 100% the way to do it, because eventually, you’ll have no choice.

Try some clomid, maybe a single dose of hcg, see if when the peaks settle out it’s a higher number, taper off the clomid, see if it sticks...
 
I’d prefer to not cycle or use trt. I just felt that 509 number was low for being 32. It seems 509 is normal?

I may jump on an AI like Erase to help Free T. I feel like I should be testing in the 600 range
 
509 is lowish for 32 but not bad.

A level of 509 for you is totally different than 509 for someone else. If you feel good and are able to gain muscle or at least maintain then I would not even consider TRT at your age and numbers.

You havent mentioned your diet but hormones need dietary cholesterol. Make sure you eating plenty of animal protein and some fat
 
No doctors wanted to put me on trt even tho I felt like **** for so long and I was at 312 at 29. No way any doctor is gonna put you on trt at 500 mate, your numbers aren’t even bad at all they’re normal.
 
Thanks for contributing. I feel like I’ll just modify diet, but it’s already pretty clean. I added in an AI today that I’ll cycle for 4-6 weeks to assist in leaning out. I think if I can cut to 225 from 240 that would help also.
 
At age 53, my total T numbers were in the 380-400 range and doc would not offer TRT. Even with very low free T.

I'd say stick with diet changes for now.

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The above chart is what leads me to believe I’m low. I saw that last night. At 509, that essentially means at age 32 I have the test levels of the 59 plus bracket
 
Research and possibly supplement with boron. It may raise your free testlevels. As for doing a cycle, and running a serm, you still risk your free and total test levels coming out to be lower than they already are after. So you will want to weigh this, if you take roids, you may then have to be on TRT.
 
HebrewHulk said:
The above chart is what leads me to believe I’m low. I saw that last night. At 509, that essentially means at age 32 I have the test levels of the 59 plus bracket
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No, it means you have median total T. Standard deviation is like 194 homie.
 
Boron ~10g daily will lower SHBG significantly over time. 3 caps of NOW brand per day.

2-month cycles of Longjack around 3-500mg/day 5 days out of the week will also lower SHBG and raise free T & libido. Then take a break for a month before using again.

As mentioned, make sure you’re getting enough raw materials to make test. A plate of whole eggs a day and a 10-25mg pregnenolone 2-3 times a week can help this. Make sure you’re getting your quality omega 3 fats in daily too, like krill or fish oil, 2-3g or 4-6g, respectively.

As you mentioned, shedding some bodyfat can be very helpful. Avoid opiates and excessive alcohol & marijuana (common sense isn’t always that common).

Aromasin (exemestane) in low doses for a bit can help fire up T levels as well - maybe talk to your doctor about trying that?
 
BamBam54 said:
At age 53, my total T numbers were in the 380-400 range and doc would not offer TRT. Even with very low free T.

I'd say stick with diet changes for now.

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Would the charts section “standard deviation” indicate a + or - range? Like “margin of error”? Does it mean I subtract my T level from the avg T level, if it falls within that deviation I’m still normal?

What I’m trying to determine is if my levels are healthy for a 32 year old.

Much appreciate everyone’s replies. Forgot how good this forum was. I finally downloaded the app so I’ll actually post now.
 
HebrewHulk said:
What I’m trying to determine is if my levels are healthy for a 32 year old.
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As mentioned above, are they optimal? No. But they are within range. I personally choose to go on TRT because my life was a misery and I realised it would be a life changer for me. It’s really not something you should think about unless you really have to. I still have days where I wonder if it was the best idea. I couldn’t sleep, couldn’t be motivated, even when I managed to sleep 10hours it would feel like I had 0 sleep at all. Easily depressed, list go on and I’m nit even talking about my sex life prior to trt. I tried many things before trt too
 
HebrewHulk said:
Does this essentially mean my T level (509), should be within 194 points of the median T number to be normal?
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Excuse my blatant ignorance to the topic. My doctor doesn’t go over any of this. It’s just lab voicemail telling me the numbers. I made a follow up appointment anyway for some cialis but I feel the forum is better feedback.
 
HebrewHulk said:
Does this essentially mean my T level (509), should be within 194 points of the median T number to be normal?
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It would mean that your Test levels would need to be within 194 points of the low end of the normal range, to be considered normal.
 
HebrewHulk said:
Excuse my blatant ignorance to the topic. My doctor doesn’t go over any of this. It’s just lab voicemail telling me the numbers. I made a follow up appointment anyway for some cialis but I feel the forum is better feedback.
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Dont worry about all that brother. This is a big reason why AM is helpful- seems that most docs wont tell you more than they have to. But if you want to be in control of your health you have to know what's going on....ask away.

It's not like your a 16 yr old trying to convince us it's cool for you to run a bunch of tren
 
Renew1 said:
It would mean that your Test levels would need to be within 194 points of the low end of the normal range, to be considered normal.
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I believe it’s 194 over or under the mean number. Which makes sense with the mean number being in the high 600s and the 95the percentile being in the 900s.
 
Renew1 said:
It would mean that your Test levels would need to be within 194 points of the low end of the normal range, to be considered normal.
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Ok, is this an accurate interpretation:

-my level 509
-mean total (avg) 621
-mean total - standard deviation = 427.

427 or less would fall under (low) for my age bracket. 509 appears to be lower limit of normal.

I have a varicocele so am leaning towards correcting it as I believe it’s hindering test production.
 
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