Blood Pressure and Epiandro/1-DHEA

[GreenMachineX]

Damn bro...so if you hadnt been self monitoring your bp, you would maybe never have known it was so high (as in, no indicative sides)?

That right there is why everyone running sh1t like this should own a cuff monitor.

Agreed. I haven't been monitoring actually, but yesterday morning I knew something was wrong, so I went out and bought a new one since I couldn't find my old one.

 

[GreenMachineX]

BTW, thanks everybody for the support.

 

[bighulksmash]

BTW, thanks everybody for the support.

No prob

 

[gigante35]

That is little to much mg, currently i am using 500 mg epiandro and 200 mg super 1 and i am very pleased with results. I throw in 500 mg tudca and cycle support by rich piana.

 

[GreenMachineX]

That is little to much mg, currently i am using 500 mg epiandro and 200 mg super 1 and i am very pleased with results. I throw in 500 mg tudca and cycle support by rich piana.

Probably

 

[JMark]

Agreed. I haven't been monitoring actually, but yesterday morning I knew something was wrong, so I went out and bought a new one since I couldn't find my old one.

How did you know something was wrong? Did you feel something?

 

[GreenMachineX]

How did you know something was wrong? Did you feel something?

Just had a bad feeling; anxiety/fear, along those lines.

 

[GreenMachineX]

How many days do y'all think it'll take for it all to get out of my system, and blood pressure to come all the way back down?

 

[xo0ox]

How many days do y'all think it'll take for it all to get out of my system, and blood pressure to come all the way back down?

As a prohormone it will exit the body quickly (24h) so the BP should drop quickly after that.

 

[bighulksmash]

How many days do y'all think it'll take for it all to get out of my system, and blood pressure to come all the way back down?

3 to 5 to fully exit the system . You will notice the changes 24 hrs after last dose . If your bp stays high after a week there is something else ****in you up . My guess was diet , you said that was good tho . How is your cardio ?

 

[GreenMachineX]

As a prohormone it will exit the body quickly (24h) so the BP should drop quickly after that.

3 to 5 to fully exit the system . You will notice the changes 24 hrs after last dose . If your bp stays high after a week there is something else ****in you up . My guess was diet , you said that was good tho . How is your cardio ?

It's come down since Saturday, but not all the way. This morning it was 145/80, and my last dose was Saturday at 4pm. By no means do I have a perfect diet, but it's not atrocious either. I don't do any actual cardio, but I walk 6-7 miles a day at my job in a warehouse and lift boxes half the time too. I also know it's time to donate blood because my hematocrit climbs from TRT. I'd imagine it's 53 right now.

 

[bighulksmash]

It's come down since Saturday, but not all the way. This morning it was 145/80, and my last dose was Saturday at 4pm. By no means do I have a perfect diet, but it's not atrocious either. I don't do any actual cardio, but I walk 6-7 miles a day at my job in a warehouse and lift boxes half the time too. I also know it's time to donate blood because my hematocrit climbs from TRT. I'd imagine it's 53 right now.

Well thats a big issue . You should donate blood. It will help you lower hc . I wasn't aware of you being on TRT . Cardio would help ya as far as lowering bp a little . That came from my doctor.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Well thats a big issue . You should donate blood. It will help you lower hc . I wasn't aware of you being on TRT . Cardio would help ya as far as lowering bp a little . That came from my doctor.

I'll be donating tomorrow morning; the confusing factor with all this is a month ago I had a stress test and echocardiogram done and was told my heart is healthy and strong. But, I guess that really doesn't mean my blood pressure has to be healthy huh?

 

[bighulksmash]

I'll be donating tomorrow morning; the confusing factor with all this is a month ago I had a stress test and echocardiogram done and was told my heart is healthy and strong. But, I guess that really doesn't mean my blood pressure has to be healthy huh?

I am no doctor by any means. I have been in your situation minus the trt . My doctor suggested a healthier diet more potassium to be specific. Lots of liss and some fast paced walking . At the time I was cycling massive amounts of aas . Now its calmed down everything is normal. That doesn't mean I don't have damage that i caused . Main concern with hi bp is the arterial walls of the left ventricular construction. Best advice is to stop aas and eat more fruits and veggies . Healthier cuts of meat and break a sweat every day doing cardio .

Do you have a heart rate monitor?

 

[GreenMachineX]

I am no doctor by any means. I have been in your situation minus the trt . My doctor suggested a healthier diet more potassium to be specific. Lots of liss and some fast paced walking . At the time I was cycling massive amounts of aas . Now its calmed down everything is normal. That doesn't mean I don't have damage that i caused . Main concern with hi bp is the arterial walls of the left ventricular construction. Best advice is to stop aas and eat more fruits and veggies . Healthier cuts of meat and break a sweat every day doing cardio .

Do you have a heart rate monitor?

Did you tell your doctor of your cycling?

I don't have a heart rate monitor, just a BP monitor; why?

 

[bighulksmash]

Did you tell your doctor of your cycling?

I don't have a heart rate monitor, just a BP monitor; why?

My pcp yes not my urologist or my endocrinologist.

Hb monitor will help you keep your hr in the target zone to improve cardiovascular performance.

 

[GreenMachineX]

My pcp yes not my urologist or my endocrinologist.

Hb monitor will help you keep your hr in the target zone to improve cardiovascular performance.

Gotcha.

 

[bighulksmash]

If u decide to grab one just start slow . Do a week of keeping it in the target zone for just 15 mins a day . Biggggg diff . Wat test are you on ive done c e p

 

[GreenMachineX]

If u decide to grab one just start slow . Do a week of keeping it in the target zone for just 15 mins a day . Biggggg diff . Wat test are you on ive done c e p

Well, the thing is, before I started this cycle, my BP was fine. During the stress test, it rose and fell the way it was supposed to. No issues. Could being on that cycle for 3 and a half weeks only really have messed it up that bad?
I'm on test cyp, only 80mg a week with 50mg regular DHEA a day.

 

[bighulksmash]

Well, the thing is, before I started this cycle, my BP was fine. During the stress test, it rose and fell the way it was supposed to. No issues. Could being on that cycle for 3 and a half weeks only really have messed it up that bad?
I'm on test cyp, only 80mg a week with 50mg regular DHEA a day.

While u were cycling did u take the dhea as well? Also when i took that much "andro" i got a pain in my prostate like it was gonna explode. Did u get that?

 

[GreenMachineX]

While u were cycling did u take the dhea as well? Also when i took that much "andro" i got a pain in my prostate like it was gonna explode. Did u get that?

Yes, took DHEA. Nothing prostate related. It was all just kicking in it felt like though.

 

[bighulksmash]

Yes, took DHEA. Nothing prostate related. It was all just kicking in it felt like though.

That wpuld have been a good run

 

[JMark]

Is 330mg 1 andro, 330mg 4 andro and 500mg epi andro a day too much dhea? I see it's a very common cycle though.

 

[bighulksmash]

Is 330mg 1 andro, 330mg 4 andro and 500mg epi andro a day too much dhea? I see it's a very common cycle though.

Imo its pushing it . But many people will be quick to disagree. Delivery systems are what we should question. As to how much is actually absorbed.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Is 330mg 1 andro, 330mg 4 andro and 500mg epi andro a day too much dhea? I see it's a very common cycle though.

it is a common cycle, doesn't necessarily mean you wont experience any sides..

 

[bighulksmash]

it is a common cycle, doesn't necessarily mean you wont experience any sides..

I like 1 ad at 500 4 ad 300 that was a ball ache for me

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Here's my rule of them when running andros. Take a cycle support, Arimacare Pro should have you covered, maybe throw in extra hawthorne, and cut all stims when on cycle. Stims on cycle isn't necessary whatsoever. Following those 2 rules, never had an on cycle BP issue.

 

[Frank1983]

Hawthorne is my go to for blood pressure.

 

[JMark]

Imo its pushing it . But many people will be quick to disagree. Delivery systems are what we should question. As to how much is actually absorbed.

Delivery system is s-sedds by Olympus UK.

 

[bighulksmash]

Delivery system is s-sedds by Olympus UK.

Short for something?

 

[JMark]

Short for something?

Solid self-emulsifying drug delivery system

 

[bighulksmash]

Solid self-emulsifying drug delivery system

Hmm nice never tried it . Could be the reason for op bp spike . Too much into the system where as regular delivery lacks this transit route . I never heard of someone on trt with high dhea already tho . Possibilities are endless.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Hmm nice never tried it . Could be the reason for op bp spike . Too much into the system where as regular delivery lacks this transit route . I never heard of someone on trt with high dhea already tho . Possibilities are endless.

Think maybe I should stop the DHEA if I try again?

 

[bighulksmash]

Think maybe I should stop the DHEA if I try again?

To be honest yes . Iam not a doc and others may have a different opinion. But my take is too much of the same thing from different sources.

Think of it like this . I want to do a tren cycle. Im going for 3 different compounds
Tren trenavar and Trenbolone acetate . Wayyy to much of the same thing . Try 1 and 4 andro together. Without all the extra stuff. I did what u did with a product called trifecta the og version . Not the dhea one . Took wayy to much shyt of the same nature .


Although people do your cycle and more all the time . Which leads me to believe you must have had a medical condition which u either know about or dont know about .

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Im doign epi-andro lgd and furzabol gonna be a killer cutter

 

[GreenMachineX]

To be honest yes . Iam not a doc and others may have a different opinion. But my take is too much of the same thing from different sources.

Think of it like this . I want to do a tren cycle. Im going for 3 different compounds
Tren trenavar and Trenbolone acetate . Wayyy to much of the same thing . Try 1 and 4 andro together. Without all the extra stuff. I did what u did with a product called trifecta the og version . Not the dhea one . Took wayy to much shyt of the same nature .


Although people do your cycle and more all the time . Which leads me to believe you must have had a medical condition which u either know about or dont know about .

So even though all the DHEAs convert to different things, it might still be too much?

 

[GreenMachineX]

Well, figured out the real problem. Went to donate blood and my hemoglobin was 19.2! Told my TRT Doctor and will be going in at 1 for a follow up. Guess I need to donate more often than once a month.

 

[bighulksmash]

So even though all the DHEAs convert to different things, it might still be too much?

You have to look at the root cause here . Looks like you found it.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Hmm nice never tried it . Could be the reason for op bp spike . Too much into the system where as regular delivery lacks this transit route . I never heard of someone on trt with high dhea already tho . Possibilities are endless.

Dude, you called it! My blood test for DHEA came back sky high. Easy fix though; stop taking all DHEA and BP should come down.

 

[bighulksmash]

Dude, you called it! My blood test for DHEA came back sky high. Easy fix though; stop taking all DHEA and BP should come down.

Iam just glad ur ok man !

 

[GreenMachineX]

Iam just glad ur ok man !

Definitely appreciate it!

 

[bighulksmash]

Definitely appreciate it!

No problem that wat we're here for.

 

[JMark]

Dude, you called it! My blood test for DHEA came back sky high. Easy fix though; stop taking all DHEA and BP should come down.

Why was your dhea high to begin with?

 

[GreenMachineX]

Why was your dhea high to begin with?

As part of my HRT protocol, I take test cyp and DHEA. But taking regular DHEA with 1-DHEA is just too much.

 

[JMark]

As part of my HRT protocol, I take test cyp and DHEA. But taking regular DHEA with 1-DHEA is just too much.

I see. Glad it's an easy fix.