Blood in semen

[Wobmarvel]

So a couple of years ago during a sarm cycle I had a major dip in sex drive and also noticed When it did happen that my semen was dark. From what I understood at the time it was blood in my semen.

I did a bit of research and one common cause for this is enlarged prostate so I made an appointment at the doctor's and had bloods taken and the prostate marker results came back fine. Liver enzymes were slightly raised though.

I stayed off Peds after that and over the next year the blood went away and sex drive came back. And it's been normal for the last two years or so.

Anyway jump to now and I've just started a cycle of halodrol with dermacrine. I am not quite two weeks in and I noticed suddenly a large dip in sex drive in the last couple of days so I "tested" the situation so to speak in the shower this morning and I have dark semen again.

I am assuming the combination of halodrol and dermacrine is playing havoc with my DHT levels possibly enlarging the prostate which apparently can then put pressure on your uretha causing blood in semen.

This is pure speculation of course and because of the COVID situation in the world it isn't as easy to pop to the doctor's for a blood test any more. Only over the phone consultations with the soonest face to face appointment about two months away.

Anyway I'm now 47 and am not risking prostate issues for the chance to look a bit leaner and muscular so I'm stopping the cycle today. Like I said I'm not even two weeks in yet.

I wanted to know if anyone else had experienced anything like this and had any theories and/or advice besides the obvious get bloods done which I will at the soonest opportunity.

I also tend to go supplement crazy when I get back into working out and am using a fat burner, cycle support and multivitamin product plus a natural diuretic to help lose initial water weight. Do you think I should stop everything or would the natural stuff be okay to continue with? I know your not doctor's just want opinions. This isn't the sort of thing I can discuss very well with my wife.

 

[Smont]

You should go to a Dr. Because I've delt with literally 1000+ ppl who have used anabolics. Talking to them here, various gyms, ppl I do meal plans for ect. And never heard of a single person get blood in there seman from running sarms or prohormones.

It's very likely you got some kind of issue pre existing and then maybe the supression of your testosterone levels is triggering it?

I really don't have a clue, but my point is I don't think anyone here is going to have a clue either.

This isn't your run of the mill bro trouble shooting question

 

[botk1161]

What @Smont said!

 

[Wobmarvel]

Yeah appreciate that. The fact that my post resulted in tumbleweeds made me realise that it can't be particularly common. That and it's the sort of post that people probably want to steer clear of in case their advice makes the situation worse etc.

When it happened before I was actually recovering from groin hernia surgery and it was about six weeks after and I started doing light deadlifts and other exercises whilst using mk677 and ostarine. As great as the NHS is the doctor's here are not specialists in anabolics so when we discuss stuff the mention of sarms or prohormones is just met with blank stares and any advice would be to stop them... Understandably.

Like I said before the bloods came back okay. Liver enzymes were raised and I went back for a second test and asked to have test levels checked also. This was weeks later and I had completely come off of everything and everything was within normal range. The blood continued for about a month or so then completely stopped for the next few years until now.

I was also told that blood in semen is something that just happens to some people and it can come and go as they get older. Possibly just something doctor's say when they don't have an answer.

I also had a kidney stone about a year and a half ago which resulted in severe pain and blood when I peed but no blood in semen so my internals have been through a bit.

At the end of the day I'm a 6 foot 190lb guy who doesn't look like a bodybuilder and just want to get into better shape because I've been out the game for a year or so. I don't need PEDs and pushing 50 years old isn't the time to take these risks. I'll keep the fatburner and multi in plus will probably run the cycle support to the end too. Take a couple of days off and try and get an appointment at the docs sooner if I can.

I'll stop rambling now. I really appreciate the response guys. Psychologically this is a bit of a punch in the face and it's nice to know a couple of you at least took the time to read and respond.

 

[Kronic]

ya I don't think peds or supplements would cause blood in semen usually. I'd guess cancer so get it checked asap

 

[Wobmarvel]

ya I don't think peds or supplements would cause blood in semen usually. I'd guess cancer so get it checked asap

Yeah that was obviously my fear the first time. I expected the doctor to be all like "just pop your clothes on the seat and bend over” but apparently they do a blood test first to check prostate markers and they were fine so the rubber glove test never happened. If I can get blood tested soon I'll see what happens this time.

 

[Wobmarvel]

ya I don't think peds or supplements would cause blood in semen usually. I'd guess cancer so get it checked asap

Also I would agree that Peds wouldn't directly cause this but an enlarged prostate can and we all know that Peds can effect the prostate.

 

[Hyde]

Sounds like you have come to the right conclusion: stop the hormones, and follow up with the doctor. Explain that even though you stopped the PEDs, at your age and the rarity of this vs prostate issues/cancer at this age (very common) you absolutely need more intense screening. Being proactive and vigilant is how people catch stuff before it becomes unstoppable.

 

[Smont]

Also I would agree that Peds wouldn't directly cause this but an enlarged prostate can and we all know that Peds can effect the prostate.

Yes the can, but your first cycle was sarms and many sarms are actually prostate protective, the opposite of many steroids and prohormones. Anyway, this is a question for a specialist.

Unfortunately tho, once you mention steroids or anabolics, the large majority of Dr are automatically going to just say that's the problem and never look deeper.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So went to the doctor's today. Going back on Tuesday for a bit of a fondle and "internal" examination (can't wait) they are also testing a urine sample and will be taking bloods. Did discuss the Peds and this guy at least seemed to know a bit about them and not just look confused like the lady I talked to before. Obviously his advise was still to stop. His point was that when you mess with your hormones it makes his job a lot harder to find out what is generally wrong with you as you are getting artificially altered readings on a lot of markers.

Interestingly I looked back through my supplement orders and it looks like I was also taking dermacrine before and it was actually lgd and rad I was using.

 

[Smont]

So went to the doctor's today. Going back on Tuesday for a bit of a fondle and "internal" examination (can't wait) they are also testing a urine sample and will be taking bloods. Did discuss the Peds and this guy at least seemed to know a bit about them and not just look confused like the lady I talked to before. Obviously his advise was still to stop. His point was that when you mess with your hormones it makes his job a lot harder to find out what is generally wrong with you as you are getting artificially altered readings on a lot of markers.

Interestingly I looked back through my supplement orders and it looks like I was also taking dermacrine before and it was actually lgd and rad I was using.

I'd highly doubt these are the culprits, if they are I'd bet my house your the first person in history to get these side effects from these compounds

 

[Smont]

I'm not saying keep using hormones, you absolutely should stop, what I'm saying is I don't believe there's any individual product causing the problem. I'd bet there's a underlying issue and anything hormonal you take is causing the problem.

 

[Wobmarvel]

I'm not saying keep using hormones, you absolutely should stop, what I'm saying is I don't believe there's any individual product causing the problem. I'd bet there's a underlying issue and anything hormonal you take is causing the problem.

I totally agree. Even with the chance that a lot of guys with this issue wouldn't be comfortable telling anyone about it I'm pretty sure with the millions of people on PEDs over the years we would have heard of more cases.

The amount of possible causes is pretty large. It could even be a twisted testicle that gets aggrivated when I go from not working out for a year to suddenly doing squats and deadlifts etc.

It just so happens that when I do this after a long layoff I always add PEDs in so they also become a common denominator. I would still be a bit ignorant to assume that it's everything except the PEDs though and feel I should follow doctor's orders and stop. I don't for a second think this could happen to anyone else. I understand it's pretty unique and for anyone that may be strangely interested I'll update when I know more.

 

[Smont]

I totally agree. Even with the chance that a lot of guys with this issue wouldn't be comfortable telling anyone about it I'm pretty sure with the millions of people on PEDs over the years we would have heard of more cases.

The amount of possible causes is pretty large. It could even be a twisted testicle that gets aggrivated when I go from not working out for a year to suddenly doing squats and deadlifts etc.

It just so happens that when I do this after a long layoff I always add PEDs in so they also become a common denominator. I would still be a bit ignorant to assume that it's everything except the PEDs though and feel I should follow doctor's orders and stop. I don't for a second think this could happen to anyone else. I understand it's pretty unique and for anyone that may be strangely interested I'll update when I know more.

So it's not just every time you start peds but also every time you start working out hard again? You take time off, and then when you get back into the gym you start working out and taking stuff at the same time?

If that's the case do you always try to jump right back into doing things where you left off?

I'm just looking at other common denominators but even with that in the consideration the whole scenario is still a very odd side effect or injury I should say, it's not something I've ever heard someone say before. And yeah I agree it's not something people would probably commonly talk about but I've seen people talk about way weirder stuff than that so I'm sure we would have heard something lol.

 

[Hyde]

I totally agree. Even with the chance that a lot of guys with this issue wouldn't be comfortable telling anyone about it I'm pretty sure with the millions of people on PEDs over the years we would have heard of more cases.

The amount of possible causes is pretty large. It could even be a twisted testicle that gets aggrivated when I go from not working out for a year to suddenly doing squats and deadlifts etc.

It just so happens that when I do this after a long layoff I always add PEDs in so they also become a common denominator. I would still be a bit ignorant to assume that it's everything except the PEDs though and feel I should follow doctor's orders and stop. I don't for a second think this could happen to anyone else. I understand it's pretty unique and for anyone that may be strangely interested I'll update when I know more.

What you are saying you’ve done, begin taking PEDs as soon as you start getting back into lifting, is extremely common. I probably don’t need to convince you of this now due to the thread theme, but this is always a poor idea.

Coming off a layoff, you are primed for results no matter what, and your base of fitness is always garbage compared to where it will be in just a couple months of work.

Always spend a couple months grabbing that low hanging fruit, building your GPP back up with low rest periods & very light weights, or even circuit work. Get your abs and low back endurance back up to snuff so you are ready to handle a barbell safer, and THEN start lifting heavier and add the PEDs when that initial progress slows.

^That’s just brovice you didn’t ask for

Regarding your appointment, I’m glad they’re taking this seriously and wish you luck! I had food-born colitis once and was surprised with a finger probe. It does suck, but it’s fast enough & you get the information you really need.

 

[Wobmarvel]

What you are saying you’ve done, begin taking PEDs as soon as you start getting back into lifting, is extremely common. I probably don’t need to convince you of this now due to the thread theme, but this is always a poor idea.

Coming off a layoff, you are primed for results no matter what, and your base of fitness is always garbage compared to where it will be in just a couple months of work.

Always spend a couple months grabbing that low hanging fruit, building your GPP back up with low rest periods & very light weights, or even circuit work. Get your abs and low back endurance back up to snuff so you are ready to handle a barbell safer, and THEN start lifting heavier and add the PEDs when that initial progress slows.

^That’s just brovice you didn’t ask for

Regarding your appointment, I’m glad they’re taking this seriously and wish you luck! I had food-born colitis once and was surprised with a finger probe. It does suck, but it’s fast enough & you get the information you really need.

To be honest I really don't need PEDs. I've never reached my potential without them and I tend to use them once a year for around 8 weeks to achieve a certain look. I'm not a huge guy, I'm kind of lean lanky and on clothes you wouldn't even think I lifted. When I was younger I really liked the results and definitely got more muscle built in less time than natural and after a while I start to think that working out without them is a waste of time. It's a total psychological thing. I used to get that way with preworkouts once, if I hadn't had one what's the point of working out.

Anyway health has to come first, I have a wife and kids and my youngest is only 8. I'm 47 and really want to see my kids become adults so time to Reprioritise.

 

[Dick-Hertz]

You getting "pounded in the grommet" and damaging your prostate?
"Pegged" like a demturd tranny?

 

[Wobmarvel]

You getting "pounded in the grommet" and damaging your prostate?
"Pegged" like a demturd tranny?

Precisely.

 

[Wobmarvel]

I've also discovered in the last few months that preworkouts with agmatine now give me an upset stomach. They never used to. I think I'm going through some kind of male menopause. A special kind that forbids me from taking anything that may improve my workout performance.

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

New to the thread .. so not all caught up

but just wanted to say glad you stopped ped's .. and also yeah continue to get your prostate/psa levels checked and best of luck.

 

[Hyde]

I've also discovered in the last few months that preworkouts with agmatine now give me an upset stomach. They never used to. I think I'm going through some kind of male menopause. A special kind that forbids me from taking anything that may improve my workout performance.

Don’t underestimate a good cup of black coffee and the mindset to just see out whatever you are capable of that day!

Sometimes I get anxious about lifting weights that I know will be heavy for me, but if I re-align my thought process I can focus on the realization that all I need to do is simply do whatever I can. I am only capable of exactly what I am, nothing more, and regardless of how good or bad I fee come time for the gym, all I need to do is all I can. There’s a lot of freedom, knowing I can always work that hard - as hard as I can that day.

They can’t all be personal best performances; it takes the existence of bad workouts to provide the contrast necessary for great workouts, and 80% are probably just going to be average for what you are capable of in any given month.

Sorry if that’s getting a little esoteric. But the point is, show up & just do your best that day.

 

[FrankJ]

I had that once when I didnt release for a couple weeks, went away with regular use, never came back. I mentioned it to my dad, he said he heard the same thing through the grapevine in the Navy, that it can happen when you dont keep your pipes clean.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So doctor's internal examination happened this morning. Great fun, highlight of my day. Turns out prostate seems absolutely fine.

Went cold turkey on the halodrol and dermacrine about a week ago and within days the blood has gone away. The doctor believes the two are connected although he did say he tried to read up on it and couldn't find anything to prove that hormone manipulation leads to the issue.

He has told me to keep monitoring it and stay off the prohormones. I told him the other supps I'm taking or planning to and he had no issues.

He is testing a urine sample and will do a blood test depending on the results.if it comes back okay that's it for now.

I guess I should just quit while I'm ahead. If the blood returns I'll go back. Natural supps from now on.

 

[klbsa]

I had blood in my semen a few years ago and the Doc said it was most likely my prostate….. She was a pretty cute Asian woman and she actually made a pass at me when she had me vulnerable with my pants down and my junk out….. She started rubbing my leg and telling me not to worry that I would be fine while she stared at my dick like it was juicy rib-eye steak….. I started getting a semi and got my pants up and bailed the **** out of there before I did something dumb.

 

[Wobmarvel]

I had blood in my semen a few years ago and the Doc said it was most likely my prostate….. She was a pretty cute Asian woman and she actually made a pass at me when she had me vulnerable with my pants down and my junk out….. She started rubbing my leg and telling me not to worry that I would be fine while she stared at my dick like it was juicy rib-eye steak….. I started getting a semi and got my pants up and bailed the **** out of there before I did something dumb.

Well I'll be honest, that was not the experience I had but I'm glad I got it checked out

 

[Hyde]

So doctor's internal examination happened this morning. Great fun, highlight of my day. Turns out prostate seems absolutely fine.

Went cold turkey on the halodrol and dermacrine about a week ago and within days the blood has gone away. The doctor believes the two are connected although he did say he tried to read up on it and couldn't find anything to prove that hormone manipulation leads to the issue.

He has told me to keep monitoring it and stay off the prohormones. I told him the other supps I'm taking or planning to and he had no issues.

He is testing a urine sample and will do a blood test depending on the results.if it comes back okay that's it for now.

I guess I should just quit while I'm ahead. If the blood returns I'll go back. Natural supps from now on.

Glad your prostate seems healthy and they are making sure of that. If you add the compounds, get blood, stop them & it stops fast with no other changes, whatever the reason it’s causing it you can still be pretty confident that’s the cause.

Not worth the risk.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Glad your prostate seems healthy and they are making sure of that. If you add the compounds, get blood, stop them & it stops fast with no other changes, whatever the reason it’s causing it you can still be pretty confident that’s the cause.

Not worth the risk.

Yeah part of me is like ”i wonder if I try the dermacrine solo to see if that's the cause and just drop the halodrol" but given how I've been feeling the past few days even though I'm feeling better today I should probably just avoid prohormones and the like. Been curious about trying test. I don't have the means to inject (although I could). I can get hold of testogel but again I don't really need it. Like you said before I've been not training for a while and I really need a few months of getting back into it without adding any PEDs to the mix. I can always dabble in the likes of black lion or CEL if I really feel like I need to be taking something

 

[Hyde]

Yeah part of me is like ”i wonder if I try the dermacrine solo to see if that's the cause and just drop the halodrol" but given how I've been feeling the past few days even though I'm feeling better today I should probably just avoid prohormones and the like. Been curious about trying test. I don't have the means to inject (although I could). I can get hold of testogel but again I don't really need it. Like you said before I've been not training for a while and I really need a few months of getting back into it without adding any PEDs to the mix. I can always dabble in the likes of black lion or CEL if I really feel like I need to be taking something

Wait until all the doctor testing is done before you consider testing the Dermacrine solo. Then in a controlled fashion you could try it. But you also should ask how much that could possibly help anyway. Kind of a low reward for the risk.