Blasting while on TRT

threeFs said:
So now you wait....
How many days ago was your last inject? And how many mg's?
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Last inject was on Wednesday and it was about 50mgs.
My appointment is for this Friday. I was going to inject again tomorrow, but think I may skip that and then just get the labs drawn on Wednesday and inject that night.
 
They should have a "thing" where you can check your test levels immediately on demand, like pricking and testing your blood sugar. I see this coming in the future. Maybe I should invent it and make billions on it? This is REALLY stupid having to go to a fcking lab every 5 minutes, then waiting days to find out what your stinking test level is.....
 
kisaj said:
Me too. It probably sounds weird to guys fearful of injects or don't know what we experience, but about a day or so before, I just think about it.
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I think about it too....I think "why the fck do I have to do this???"....there are a lot of bad outcomes that can come out of sticking a needle into your body EW. Sure, most of us are safe and sterile about it....but its still not something that people should "like". Not sure why anybody would enjoy sticking a sharp object into themselves? then again there are people into BDSM and whips and chains :D......
 
So what is the option- cry about it and whoa is me every week? Deal with the situation at hand and enjoy the fact that you can feel better than almost any other man in his 35+ age. So, yeah, I actually "like" what it does for me and look forward to it.
 
kisaj said:
So what is the option- cry about it and whoa is me every week? Deal with the situation at hand and enjoy the fact that you can feel better than almost any other man in his 35+ age. So, yeah, I actually "like" what it does for me and look forward to it.
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there is a difference between looking forward to something and understanding its just part of the overall process (the whole sticking the needle in thing) . Liking trt and its results, and liking sticking needles into yourself, are two different things is my point....if you look forward to applying or injecting test, yes who wouldn't? If you look forward to, and like, sticking a needle into yourself? That is just not something I would think a normal person would look forward too. There are those who put on this big sense of bravado that they like sticking needles into themselves, which to me is nonsense.
 
I guess I have no idea what you are saying. It is pretty clear that we are talking about TRT and the the outcome from being on it. Nobody here has said that they are looking forward to sticking a needle in themselves just because they like needles. If you are taking this somewhere else and talking about people that like pain or whatever, then this probably isn't the thread.
 
mkretz said:
I was speaking more along the lines of cottage cheese and greek yogurt
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I still dont really count those ...def milk like you said.
If you are on a strict no carb then it prob matter a bit but for low carbing I really dont see much fluctuation, I have checked my blood glucose and is has minimum impact from my tests.
 
kisaj said:
I guess I have no idea what you are saying. It is pretty clear that we are talking about TRT and the the outcome from being on it. Nobody here has said that they are looking forward to sticking a needle in themselves just because they like needles. If you are taking this somewhere else and talking about people that like pain or whatever, then this probably isn't the thread.
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well when you say you are "looking forward to an injection" .......yep.....people might think you like the actual injection ;) Depends how you word it I suppose. I've found many of you old people are a pain in the ass :D what is going to happen in the 50's and 60's and 70's? lol
 
LOL, you're weird, man. I accept the blame on the misunderstanding here and promise to spell things out more clearly for the other zero people that don't understand what we are talking about.
 
kisaj said:
LOL, you're weird, man. I accept the blame on the misunderstanding here and promise to spell things out more clearly for the other zero people that don't understand what we are talking about.
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hahaha, you're alright man.....you're just getting grumpy with old age is all. I'm 2 years older and I'm Waaaaaay less grumpy :D
 
AnabolicHolic said:
I think about it too....I think "why the fck do I have to do this???"....there are a lot of bad outcomes that can come out of sticking a needle into your body EW. Sure, most of us are safe and sterile about it....but its still not something that people should "like". Not sure why anybody would enjoy sticking a sharp object into themselves? then again there are people into BDSM and whips and chains :D......
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Man, this is a whole new direction. But since you brought it up, sometimes I bash my head into a window just to see if I can break through it. What are you even talking about man?
This isn't some freak show or something. I said I look forward to injects and didn't know you needed me to spell out why. The actual reason is because while it is a bit of a rush, I feel almost indescribably good when I take my Trt. I can feel when my testosterone level dips down (tired, lethargic etc) and feel outstanding when it's back up. Also, since I'm blasting now, I look forward to my gains and fat loss.
So if you're still thinking whips and chains or whatever, that's just weird.
 
careful threeFs, you must explicitly state that you enjoy testosterone treatment and the benefits that it provides you so as to not be confused with actually enjoying sticking things in your body. The last thing you want is a reputation on an online forum as the weird guy that like sharp pointy things.

haha
 
kisaj said:
careful threeFs, you must explicitly state that you enjoy testosterone treatment and the benefits that it provides you so as to not be confused with actually enjoying sticking things in your body. The last thing you want is a reputation on an online forum as the weird guy that like sharp pointy things.

haha
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yeah, caught me off guard, that one...
 
i forgot to read the by law where where you're required to be psychic ....you guys got me. Damn. And you're 100% correct...there are no bravado warriors who welcome the injection because they are tough guys and/or like the needles (please note sarcasm here). Please don't take yourselves so seriously fellas ;)
 
AnabolicHolic said:
i forgot to read the by law where where you're required to be psychic ....you guys got me. Damn. And you're 100% correct...there are no bravado warriors who welcome the injection because they are tough guys and/or like the needles (please note sarcasm here). Please don't take yourselves so seriously fellas ;)
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Glad we're all on topic here
 
I'll probably inject 30ml tomorrow, test on Tuesday, the regular 50ml Thursday and get the endo test the following week.
 
lboston said:
Actually just saw them in my email and looked them over.

Total T is 907
E2 is 52.8

ALT and AST are both in the 60s.
BUN and Creatinine also slightly elevated.
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So this was three weeks after discontinuing 400 a week and going straight back to your trt dose of 100?
 
lboston said:
Correct, only I did 200 one week, then 100, then another at 100. Did not I icy today as was scheduled.
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Cool.....thats what I am doing.....last week was 200, this week will be 100 and will continue at that till blood work last week of May. I am already missing the blast :( I felt great at 400 a week!
 
bigt405 said:
Cool.....thats what I am doing.....last week was 200, this week will be 100 and will continue at that till blood work last week of May. I am already missing the blast :( I felt great at 400 a week!
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I know the feeling! Even 200/week feels better than my RX 120
 
Chuckj1973 said:
What AI and dose are you guys running at 400/wk?
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I have used both 2.5 mg letro and 100 mg erase..and a few others but liked those two the best letro had me drier but normal joint pain so on perfect for contest prep. 75-100 mg erase had me in low normal range with zero sides that was on 600mg though for both.

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harbonah said:
I have used both 2.5 mg letro and 100 mg erase..and a few others but liked those two the best letro had me drier but normal joint pain so on perfect for contest prep. 75-100 mg erase had me in low normal range with zero sides that was on 600mg though for both.

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So is joint pain the predominant indicator? I know sex drive as well, but do you shoot for like 1 dose lower than joint pain? Is that the idea?
 
threeFs said:
So is joint pain the predominant indicator? I know sex drive as well, but do you shoot for like 1 dose lower than joint pain? Is that the idea?
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For me no the goal is normal range unless I am doing a show luckily for me 2.5 mg letro only causes joint pain. I get private blood work test, estro is like 150 where I go.

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lboston said:
Tried erase, but nips were itchy as hell at 6-8 weeks in. Ordered some liquid aromasin...all good.
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That's why I say blood work somethings seem to work well for some and not others.

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im doin 12.5 g aromasin (about 1/8th teaspoon) EOD....think im ok, i almost wanna do it everyday to see if i experience joint pain cuz at least that way i know its working
 
I was going to try Aromasin, but the site I was going to order from said they were late on shipping due to a second bout of spinal meningitis! Yuck!
 
I've hit 25/ed for 4 days (aromasin) and though no joint pain, no morning wood today. So no aromasin today and maybe 12.5 ed starting tomorrow.
 
If I ever blast again, it's gonna be for 4 weeks max. I saw the best results during that timeframe, and felt the best. After that it started going downhill. 500mg/week for 4 weeks, and then right back to 100mg/week trt should work fine, and get levels perfect again in time for endo testing. That's just what I prefer though.
 
lexmuscle said:
If I ever blast again, it's gonna be for 4 weeks max. I saw the best results during that timeframe, and felt the best. After that it started going downhill. 500mg/week for 4 weeks, and then right back to 100mg/week trt should work fine, and get levels perfect again in time for endo testing. That's just what I prefer though.
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What were you at gains wise at 4 weeks?
 
lboston said:
What were you at gains wise at 4 weeks?
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I hit 20lbs in 4 weeks, and didn't really gain anything else when I hit the 8 week mark. I've lost a little over 5lbs, so I've gained around 10-15lbs muscle. 500mg/week 4 weeks, and then going right back to 100mg/week would work great. A fast increase to blast level and a slow decrease back to trt level. My e2 was 136 during the blast, and now it's 42. My libido is dead though. I can get an erection no problem, but I have absolutely no interest in sex. I've just gotta pretend that I do when I'm with my girl until things go back to normal. How long should it take?
 
Ugh, sux man. Been there many times. I'm still learning how my E2 changes things when it's high/low
 
im in week 3 of my blast and have only gained, maybe 5 lbs........ think it just needs longer to kick in? or should i jsut up calories more
 
mkretz said:
im in week 3 of my blast and have only gained, maybe 5 lbs........ think it just needs longer to kick in? or should i jsut up calories more
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Definitely up the calories, good fats, and protein. I was getting around 5000 calories and around 300g of protein a day. Are you doing 500mg/week?
 
lexmuscle said:
Definitely up the calories, good fats, and protein. I was getting around 5000 calories and around 300g of protein a day. Are you doing 500mg/week?
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Also lift heavy. I never got anywhere near 5000 cals/ day and gained muscle fast. Just saying, you want to gain muscle not fat
 
threeFs said:
Also lift heavy. I never got anywhere near 5000 cals/ day and gained muscle fast. Just saying, you want to gain muscle not fat
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^^^ definitely! The past couple months I did the heaviest lifts I could do with the most reps possible. That could possibly be the reason I didn't experience any bloat, because my e2 was 136! A lot of guys don't realize you've gotta work harder/heavier on a cycle or blast to see great results.
 
lexmuscle said:
Definitely up the calories, good fats, and protein. I was getting around 5000 calories and around 300g of protein a day. Are you doing 500mg/week?
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400mg/wk..............doing carb cycling, 3 days low carb only carbs from veggies and dairy then a high day 400-500g carbs....when ur taking 5000 cals and only 300g protein waht were ur fats?
 
lexmuscle said:
^^^ definitely! The past couple months I did the heaviest lifts I could do with the most reps possible. That could possibly be the reason I didn't experience any bloat, because my e2 was 136! A lot of guys don't realize you've gotta work harder/heavier on a cycle or blast to see great results.
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i just thoght id be gettting crazy strong super fast...and im not, my bench was actually down today?
 
mkretz said:
i just thoght id be gettting crazy strong super fast...and im not, my bench was actually down today?
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How long have you been "on" this blast. Test cyp/enth is a long ester and takes a while to kick in. Also, I wouldn't worry about low carbs at all of size and strength are your goals. Your body needs that energy from carbs.
 
lboston said:
How long have you been "on" this blast. Test cyp/enth is a long ester and takes a while to kick in. Also, I wouldn't worry about low carbs at all of size and strength are your goals. Your body needs that energy from carbs.
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Man such a difference for about 2 days after I eat carbs. Strong.carb cycling lowers my strength but it's hard cutting and lifting heavy on days 3-5 with low carbs. I'm OK with it though
 
mkretz said:
400mg/wk..............doing carb cycling, 3 days low carb only carbs from veggies and dairy then a high day 400-500g carbs....when ur taking 5000 cals and only 300g protein waht were ur fats?
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Not sure what my total daily fat intake was, but I was drinking about 3/4 cup of olive oil per day.
 
lexmuscle said:
Not sure what my total daily fat intake was, but I was drinking about 3/4 cup of olive oil per day.
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Holy shnikes batman :D that is 1,500 calories or 165 grams of fat before adding in you other daily fat intake.
 
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