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Green Bulge creatine caps product….anyone still using that? Saw it on amazon…also saw phosphagen
 
lanky said:
I dont know if it was mentioned but maybe 8 months or so before the PH ban of 2004 they came out with MOHN (17a methyl 4 hydroxy nandrolone). Never tried it myself. Think it was dosed in 4mg caps or tabs
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I ran the gaspari at 12 mg a day. Was pretty mild at that dose but had zero sides. Added about 5 lbs while leaning out significantly . Almost like running a super high dose of 11-oxo but without the dry joints
 
Rockslide said:
I ran the gaspari at 12 mg a day. Was pretty mild at that dose but had zero sides. Added about 5 lbs while leaning out significantly . Almost like running a super high dose of 11-oxo but without the dry joints
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i remember right before the ph ban they were selling all those PH's for like 10-20 bucks a bottle, i remember some of the less known companies were selling bottles of M1T for 10 bucks for 90 capsules, i think some were even priced less than 10 bucks from when i was scrolling through dps website around 2004. i think MOHN was priced around $24 because it was fairly new at that point and they had no idea what price to put it out to liquidate all stock
 
My favorite was Methyl dienolone. I had no sides other than difficulty sleeping, my waist some how shrunk significantly while adding like 10 lbs . It somehow like broke laws of thermodynamics because I was losing fat in a surplus with it while growing lol. Got about as strong as m1t but felt great instead of trash .
 
Rockslide said:
My favorite was Methyl dienolone. I had no sides other than difficulty sleeping, my waist some how shrunk significantly while adding like 10 lbs . It somehow like broke laws of thermodynamics because I was losing fat in a surplus with it while growing lol. Got about as strong as m1t but felt great instead of trash .
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definitely m1t and 1-test/1-ad made people feel like death. no amount of 4-ad would help me. the lethargy and brain fog was insane. i still to this day believe some of those metabolites of 1-test were strong gaba agonist.
 
The thing that gave me the worst side effects was Pheraplex. Felt tired and thirsty all the time, caused my nipples to itch. It's a precursor of Desoxymethyltestosterone (DMT).
 
lanky said:
i remember right before the ph ban they were selling all those PH's for like 10-20 bucks a bottle, i remember some of the less known companies were selling bottles of M1T for 10 bucks for 90 capsules, i think some were even priced less than 10 bucks from when i was scrolling through dps website around 2004. i think MOHN was priced around $24 because it was fairly new at that point and they had no idea what price to put it out to liquidate all stock
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I loved MOHN. Out of all the things that were lost back then, that is the one I miss the most.
 
lanky said:
what did you like about it? did it have interesting properties?
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I responded very well to it. It was a methyl but mild to be a methyl.
 
Screwtape said:
The thing that gave me the worst side effects was Pheraplex. Felt tired and thirsty all the time, caused my nipples to itch. It's a precursor of Desoxymethyltestosterone (DMT).
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i think i heard many people including PA say it made them very forgetful and scatterbrained
 
lanky said:
definitely m1t and 1-test/1-ad made people feel like death. no amount of 4-ad would help me. the lethargy and brain fog was insane. i still to this day believe some of those metabolites of 1-test were strong gaba agonist.
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If you ever try DHB, injectable 1-Test Cyp, it causes all of the serious LBM gains and strength of that family, dry, but there’s very few side effects. I remember how lethargic both 1andro and M1T made me feel; I would fall asleep sometimes getting ready for the gym. But with DHB it has all the horsepower without the issues, especially no brain issues. In fact, it will dial up neurology a lot - you will become more explosive and think faster, if anything. Allegedly it’s used even in chess and e-sports.

Screwtape said:
The thing that gave me the worst side effects was Pheraplex. Felt tired and thirsty all the time, caused my nipples to itch. It's a precursor of Desoxymethyltestosterone (DMT).
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Phera made my libido crazy!
 
Controlled Labs Red Acid. Couldn’t use my legs after working out in the am with cardio. Dehydrated seizing up insane pain lol. Cramps like crazy. Still used it daily.
 
Hyde said:
If you ever try DHB, injectable 1-Test Cyp, it causes all of the serious LBM gains and strength of that family, dry, but there’s very few side effects. I remember how lethargic both 1andro and M1T made me feel; I would fall asleep sometimes getting ready for the gym. But with DHB it has all the horsepower without the issues, especially no brain issues. In fact, it will dial up neurology a lot - you will become more explosive and think faster, if anything. Allegedly it’s used even in chess and e-sports.


Phera made my libido crazy!
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i fell asleep on the hammer strength iso lat row back in 2002 from 1-test. i swore when i woke up my traps were larger. literally you would go up a shirt size in 3 weeks
 
how about met-rx meal replacement when it came in the white box back in 1995ish, before that i used to sneak my brothers banana flavored hot stuff
 
sns8778 said:
I loved MOHN. Out of all the things that were lost back then, that is the one I miss the most.
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That stuff was amazing ! How come it’s so expensive for these overseas manufacturers to get these old PH’s back in the mix … when I asked them to make me some 1-AD last year price was similar to a Kilo of Blow 🥴🫠🙃
 
Oswizle said:
That stuff was amazing ! How come it’s so expensive for these overseas manufacturers to get these old PH’s back in the mix … when I asked them to make me some 1-AD last year price was similar to a Kilo of Blow 🥴🫠🙃
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they are treating that as a bespoke drug synthesis because there is no demand for that anymore, prices of intermediates are high now also compared to 23 years ago when china was pumping out PH's when they were jumping on a lucrative market that was still legal at that point. requires more time and resources setting up a new synthesis and potential for low yield. throw in the legality issue and it is high risk for everyone involved. they know no one is going to buy a drum of 1-AD anymore. Also certain intermediates have been purposefully inflated to ridiculous levels to prevent clandestine schedule III drug synthesis, or cut out major pharma. just look up the price on the female contraceptive norgestrel powder . you can buy it over the counter here in the US under the name opill(about 30 bucks for a month supply) and plan B(higher dose than daily contraceptive). You can easily run a reaction and fully hydrogenate that c-17 alkyne on norgestrel and now you have norbolethone( very very strong anabolic) the previous undetectable steroid that PA made.

the problem is that you would need at least 70 grand to have enough norgestrel powder to make it worthwhile
 
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lanky said:
i fell asleep on the hammer strength iso lat row back in 2002 from 1-test. i swore when i woke up my traps were larger. literally you would go up a shirt size in 3 weeks
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Wow, I only felt that lethargic feeling with lack of sleep 😂.
It is one of the reasons why I don’t touch some ingredients.
 
Oswizle said:
That stuff was amazing ! How come it’s so expensive for these overseas manufacturers to get these old PH’s back in the mix … when I asked them to make me some 1-AD last year price was similar to a Kilo of Blow 🥴🫠🙃
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Most of those things are also illegal in China now for them to make - so they are taking close to the same legal chances as to if they were selling you a kg of blow lol :ROFLMAO:

Back in the old days, there were legit places that could make all of this with no issues bc it was legal in China. Now days, most of it is illegal there too so the things that are made, its not being made in a place like it used to be - more like someone's basement now haha.
 
DaveMcNaul said:
Wow, I only felt that lethargic feeling with lack of sleep 😂.
It is one of the reasons why I don’t touch some ingredients.
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i tried going back to that substances many times thinking i would have a different experience but the same sides were there. lethargy, hair loss, and a general feeling that i was poisoned.
 
i really liked methyl intensity(17a methyl DHT) from SNS back in 2004 ish right before the PH ban took place. worked well at 50mg a day. dry with muscle fullness/great libido and made me feel calm and mild euphoria upped it to 75 and not much change. then did an experiment with 200mg a day briefly and i got paradoxically flat
 
lanky said:
i tried going back to that substances many times thinking i would have a different experience but the same sides were there. lethargy, hair loss, and a general feeling that i was poisoned.
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Too many inconveniences.
Life is too short and dealing with side effects is just not worth it at this age.

At the end of the day more or less muscle is not going to change anything in our lives.
 
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pink & blue :)
 
lanky said:
i think i heard many people including PA say it made them very forgetful and scatterbrained
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No pa loved the stuff and compared it mg for mg stronger than dbol. He said it was one of the heavy hitters. Feel good dht derivative as well. May cause progesterone effects or some kind of possible water retention, which doesn't make sense on paper since it's a dht derivative .anadrol is a dht derivative and for some reason can cause this as well, good for joints I've heard. Never done anadrol
. I've used it in a 2012 bodybuilding competition at 15 mgs for six weeks and responded well. Still have some from 2014 but a lil scared to use it as hairline has gone back since 2012 and I've done thirteen competitions since then. It's a good one for strength and size but wouldn't use it to close to stepping on stage
 
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Rockslide said:
My favorite was Methyl dienolone. I had no sides other than difficulty sleeping, my waist some how shrunk significantly while adding like 10 lbs . It somehow like broke laws of thermodynamics because I was losing fat in a surplus with it while growing lol. Got about as strong as m1t but felt great instead of trash .
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I stocked up on mdien on the 2004 ban then threw then out bc the androgenic ratio was too high and was scared of losing my hair

Also did mohn as well, even though it was basically like an androgenic deca. Logged it here in 2004, first ever hormone cycle at 23.5 years old. It was sns brand. mohn did seem weaker even at 16-24 mgs which William lewellyns write up anabolics book says something like 5 mgs was potent enough. I remember a few members were at 35-50 mgs.
 
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