Bill Roberts qoute/opinion...what do you guys think?

[IHateGymMorons]

Users generally seem to agree that when tamoxifen is used, gains are a little less than what otherwise would be expected. (Let’s not take this too far though: many people have made great gains while using tamoxifen as an anti-estrogen. And it’s always hard to say what "would" have been the case if a drug had not been included.) I’ve heard nothing but good about clomiphene, though.

 

[Jarconis]

Id hate to revert to blaming drugs as a crutch to why one would not see good gains, when maybe they could have just stuffed their face a lil more in the kitchen and overcoming any slight obstacle that using novla would make.

 

[einstein1905]

BS. This myth originated back n the days of no anti e cycles where water gain was a major factor during a cycle. the net LBM gains will not be affected by use of nolva, especially at the doses we should be using (10-20mg/day)

 

[Skye]

not to mention that even if it did reduce gains a little what is that compared to a nice B cup?