BETA Testers ONLY Please---thank you!

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Day 3 feedback

I will post up arm measurements on 9-21.

Weight: 160 lbs. this morning on an empty stomach. Not really up or down.

Strength: not really up or down.

Supplements: I don't know if this product is a testosterone booster or what, but my knees are absolutely killing me! not like I tore something though, i know the difference (unfortunately). I worked out legs yesterday, so they might just be really sore. I stopped my NHA stack today, so now I am only taking Beta Product, multi, cee, whey.

Sexual Side Effects: haven't noticed any. not any harder or softer than usual.

Urination/Excretion: Now the main thing i've noticed so far is that I've been peeing about once an hour. I wake up about 3-4 times in the middle of the night to pee. but that may just be because water intake is up, due to me being much thirstier lately, not sure if it's from the beta product. Also, normally I would take a crap about 3 times a day, but now it's only once or twice per day.

Sleep: I've been sleeping around 7-9 hours per night lately. I noticed that I get tired earlier now. Sleep hasn't improved as of yet.

Pump: I actually felt a pump in my chest/lats just while at work today lifting things. my back felt strong and I couldn't stop flexing it.

Questions for USPLabs: Will this product need to be cycled? Will this product conflict with any medications or supplements? (i'm not taking any medications, but it doesn't hurt to ask)

Comments: Can't wait for next week, we'll see how the strength and weight increases go with a full week of taking this stuff.
 
I been on about 3 weeks and it just gets better. My partner had to stop taking it becuase once he reaches 234lbs. he is to heavy for football(free safety) and get shin splints.

He had to stop because he was gaing to much muscle!

My philosophy is that every supplement should be cycled. This is not a hormone, pro hormone or desginer steroids. Its a combination of herbs from China..Yes HERBS! These herbs are more powerfull in my opinon than any pro hormone (which does not matter anymore cause of legality) or designer steroids especially when you figure risk/benefit ratio.

Amazing, simply amazing, and everyday I wake up shocked that USPlabs just discovered what I hope to be the most effective natural anabolic in the WORLD. Finally a supplement that can be compaired to steroids without smirks and doudts!
 
cable626, that's one thing I forgot to mention, since taking the Beta I've been pissing like it was going out of fashion! Did u experience this ceosm?

also cable, I'm sure once the Beta testing is over ceosm will let us know how to cycle ect. But yes, any hints at all on this ceosm, other than being herbs from China? come on just a li'l clue, I'll even do a little dance for ya :dance:
 
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cable626, that's one thing I forgot to mention, since taking the Beta I've been pissing like it was going out of fashion!
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Same here. I figured it was due to increasing my water intake so i didn't bother putting it in my log.
 
Okay, there medicinal herbs from china that are anabolic increasing testosterone and GH levels--Hence the sleep.

I can not recall if I pissed more on the supplement but I never woke at night to piss since I was sleep so deep.
 
USPlabs, do you have any numbers as too the increase in test/GH etc?

Also any idea when this is going to be sold, I am holding back on my order for cAMP/C2 cissus etc so I dont have to pay derlivery twice(outside USA).
 
rockstar6181 said:
USPlabs, do you have any numbers as too the increase in test/GH etc?

Also any idea when this is going to be sold, I am holding back on my order for cAMP/C2 cissus etc so I dont have to pay derlivery twice(outside USA).
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No. TO be prefectly honest, We are getting the same effects of HGH like sleep and fatloss but not sure if its caused by an increaese of GH. It could be another mechanisim to the action. We are still in awe that a natural supplement can have these types of effects on par with steroids.

I am giving the Beta testers another week before deciding on the supplement fate.

ceosm
 
having studied Chinese herbal medicine for some years, I shall studiously refrain from speculating out loud (don't want to scare the children)....

having said that, I noticed yesterday that I'm *looking* pumped, even if I'm not especially feeling it (yet); thought my 'slow take-off' might be due to my age & my estrogen balance issues. I am definitely feeling more dynamic, active, motivated (in a good way!), w/ improved endurance & heat tolerance - much more so today than the first 4 days.

for the record, I'm quite pleased w/ the course of things so far!
 
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right now i can not say enough good about this. as for bloodwork, well, i'm just a working man but maybe somebody else can afford this.

hope you all don't mind me just linking to my updates on ceosm's board. i guess it's a little bit of curiosity wanting to see how many of you are interested in my log. and here the hits are for everybody's log.

but a short run down is,
at day 3 i had added 20lbs to my bench, 30lbs to my pulldowns, 10 lbs to shoulder press, and doubled the reps on cleans and curls. i feel i could up the poundage again but i want to go for extra reps right now and try for some hypertrophy.

i have for now dropped my cardio because i just can't get enough intensity to make it feel productive.

so any extra questions or such just shoot me a pm.

or say something like "post here for crying out loud".

good stuff
good stuff
 
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right now i can not say enough good about this. as for bloodwork, well, i'm just a working man but maybe somebody else can afford this.

hope you all don't mind me just linking to my updates on ceosm's board. i guess it's a little bit of curiosity wanting to see how many of you are interested in my log. and here the hits are for everybody's log.

so any extra questions or such just shoot me a pm.

or say something like "post here for crying out loud".

good stuff
good stuff
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Tiger Moon, I do not mind at all. I do agree that supplements reach a limit as do steroids but with steroids you get crazy sides and recovery issues. We would be huge beast if a supplement keep working and working and working. I been on about 3-4 weeks and effects are present still.

I am not bulking and gained about 8lbs and look leaner but around the 12 day mark my weight settled (i am below maintence) and now I am getting leaner but staying at the same weight.

excuse the run on sentences.
 
Tiger

You have my word that the supplement will be affordable! Plus grand opening sale will be discounted for our customers to Get the word out! You know how we do it!

I could easily overcharge since all would want in, but like Muscle tech with GAKIC (80 dollars and they reccomend 2-3 servings a day and only 16 servings per container) its not my style!

Train On!1
 
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and the smartest members:cheers::cheers::cheers:
 
Would this be something good to use with pct? I have not seen this question asked yet. Also when will this be out, I will be starting a short cycle soon and would love to try this with pct if it is alright to follow a cycle with it. I am very intrigued with this product! If testers get the same results that you are getting I will be on board and ready for the first sale!
 
So is this C2 or what is the name of this supplement? Just looked over at nutraplanet and didnt see anything on pre-sale for you, is the pre-sale not started yet? Sounds really promising.
 
No, this is something different than C2. I think he said after the beta testing is over the sale will start (at least I am hoping). I also think the testing goes till next weekend.
 
I'm not asking this to be argumentative, I really just don't know the answer (and I apologize for posting in the "beta only" thread too...).
How can this stuff work so well so fast? Even gear takes time to start working.
 
Orals start working in a few days. My transdermal test base had kicked in all the way by day 3. Plenty of things kick in very fast, it ust might not be always be 3 days you actually see results. Eitherway, ill have an open mind for the beta testing, and if they say its A-OK, im game.
 
zed said:
here we go, just got it ....
pre workout pre beta measurements
arms: unflexed 14.2 flexed 15.2
forearms: 11.5 flexed 12.2
im a very fast responder to all supplements ive taken so if this is what expected im excited.
post workout
arms: unflexed 14.3 flexed 15.4
fa: 11.5 12.3
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Day 3 update...
arms: unflexed 14.4flexed 15.4
forearms: 11.6 flexed 12.3

post workout
arms: unflexed 14.5 flexed 15.7
fa: 11.6 12.4

I definately felt more pumped. and strenghth was up about 10 % give or take on all exercises.
The mental edge i had during my workout was noticeable. Usually my sunday workout is a little sluggish do to dragging myself off the couch after watching football all day. Legs are usually a chore but today it was very invigorating. Post work out i felt great and had to stop myself from going to heavy(fear of injury). No real sexual sides to report. My appetite is increased which with me correlates with strong workouts. So far so good I like it and it seems like it would be a good add on to a strong pct. No weight gain to report.
 
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Joe, I would tend to agree with you with the majority of supps, some of which don’t do crap , however I reacted the very first day to AMP, and as a total creatine non-responder, to Omega’s Cre-Ethyl Thunder on the first day. C-AMP for example took a week to kick in.
 
I have to agree that even on a testosterone E/d-bol cycle it takes about 7 days to feel the pump or effects. Please remember that testosterone is highly androgenic so is d-bol.


Anavar, Deca, EQ, and winstrol are orals that I never associate with a PUMP. All effective supplement or drugs begin working on the first dose but some take more time to be "felt."
 
snakebyte05 said:
Would this be something good to use with pct? I have not seen this question asked yet. Also when will this be out, I will be starting a short cycle soon and would love to try this with pct if it is alright to follow a cycle with it. I am very intrigued with this product! If testers get the same results that you are getting I will be on board and ready for the first sale!
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This will be the ultimate anabolic bridge!
 
not a full update, but this is the end of day 4 and something I have noticed over the past few days is that I am HUNGRY! I've been eating about 500 cals more than usual per day, and I still go to sleep hungry.
keep in mind that I am already bulking to begin with.
 
What kind of spacing are you guys, that are getting good results, using. Every eight hours six hours? I've been trying to go about every eight my sleep is improved, I get a slight pump at times but still nothing to freak out about or feel like I'm "on". I'll be on for a full week on Tuesday. Hopefully it will kick in during my workout tomorrow.
 
nevergoodenough said:
What kind of spacing are you guys, that are getting good results, using. Every eight hours six hours? I've been trying to go about every eight my sleep is improved, I get a slight pump at times but still nothing to freak out about or feel like I'm "on". I'll be on for a full week on Tuesday. Hopefully it will kick in during my workout tomorrow.
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take it about 15 minutes before meals.

take it every 6 hours or so..
 
nevergoodenough said:
What kind of spacing are you guys, that are getting good results, using. Every eight hours six hours? I've been trying to go about every eight my sleep is improved, I get a slight pump at times but still nothing to freak out about or feel like I'm "on". I'll be on for a full week on Tuesday. Hopefully it will kick in during my workout tomorrow.
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take it about 15 minutes before meals.

take it every 6 hours or so but take last dose about 1 hour before bed.
 
I’ve been taking about 10 minutes before breakfast, lunch and dinner. On the pumps thing….my business shirt today is tighter around my biceps…and whenever I hold the phone to my ear or have my arms bent doing something, I can’t hold it for too long cause they feel ‘pumped’? Like I’ve said before, I’ve never really felt pumped other than during training.
 
cut and paste from my log

not time for an updat eyet, but...

- did high volume deadlifts a moment ago....my erectors are pumped, a very different feeling from my lower back muscles just being sore from a hard workout
- increased my low rep bench by 3.3lbs tonight. Got all 3 reps, but all went a bit fuzzy on the 3rd rep (which was do or diebasically), which I somehow managed to get up. Not bad at all considering the same thing happened last week on my last rep. So having increased this week, I'm very happy. I'll be increasing again next week. btw I do my benches close grip style, from a bottom position, no back arch, explode from the bottom, lower with control.
 
nevergoodenough said:
What kind of spacing are you guys, that are getting good results, using. Every eight hours six hours? I've been trying to go about every eight my sleep is improved, I get a slight pump at times but still nothing to freak out about or feel like I'm "on". I'll be on for a full week on Tuesday. Hopefully it will kick in during my workout tomorrow.
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before breakfast about 30 to 45 min after milkthistle and coffee, and 1 cookie.

30 min or so later, small breakfast and then WO about 45 min later. undeniable pumps. all day? not quite, but def' 4 to 6 hours depending on what muscle was worked. and i guess i would call it a 'junior pump'(muscles feel full without being tight) much longer.

second dose 6 or so hours later with a cracker (i found that it caused a noticeable, but not unbearable burning in my stomach when taken on an empty stomach) also when taken on empty, it seems to work as a stimulant. when taken with food it is a mild stim'. aware but not jittery.

last dose right before bed.
 
My 7th Day Update:

Weight: 225

Preworkout:

Left Forearm:
Unflexed: 13.125
Flexed: 13.5

Right Forearm:
Unflexed: 13.125
Flexed: 13.5

Left Arm:
Unflexed: 15.25
Flexed: 17

Right Arm:
Unflexed: 15.75
Flexed: 18

Postworkout:

Left Forearm:
Unflexed: 13.75
Flexed: 14.25

Right Forearm:
Unflexed: 13.5
Flexed: 14

Left Arm:
Unflexed: 17.25
Flexed: 17.75

Right Arm:
Unflexed: 17.5
Flexed: 18.5


Comments:

Still feeling the effects of before, for some reason cissus does seem to help boost the effects of the beta. I am definately dreaming more than before while sleeping. The beta also seems to work a lot better on increased calories. For example on the weekends I do not eat as much as on the weekdays, on the weekends I do not stick to my shedule like I should. With less food I noticed that the beta effects were not as pronounced. No notice of fat gain or bloat. Can't wait to order some more.
 
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UPDATE!

I have been on for a full week today, and am I happy. I weighed myself Sunday and my weight was exactly the same. I weighed myself today (2 days later) and I am up 3 lbs:head: I dont know where it came from but I like it. Look at my measurements and you'll see why I'm so happy.

Arms
Preworkout Flacid: 13 inches
Preworkout Erect: 14.7 inches (Up .2 of an inch!!!!)
Postworkout Flacid: 13.3 inches
Post workout Erect: 14.9 inches (Got pumped up without doing any arm work)

Forearm
Preworkout Flacid: 10.75
Preworkout erect:11
Postworkout Flacid: 11
Post workout Erect:11.15

Comments: I still am not really feeling an everlasting pump. But my strength is steadily climbing. And with the weight jump and arm increase this product can't be denied. Oddly enough for some reasong I felt like my arms were shrinking. I guess I was way off. Sex drive and boners are still rocking. I guess it just took a little extra time to kick in on me I can wait to see what the next week holds.

CEOSM you said that if we post on other boards we get a free bottle for each board, I post on two others I was wondering if I could get those asap, so I can stay on it without a break. I sent you the emails with the boards in them last week. If you can get me the bottles I would be glad to keep my log going for as long as you like.
 
nevergoodenough said:
I have been on for a full week today, and am I happy. I weighed myself Sunday and my weight was exactly the same. I weighed myself today (2 days later) and I am up 3 lbs:head: I dont know where it came from but I like it. Look at my measurements and you'll see why I'm so happy.

Arms
Preworkout Flacid: 13 inches
Preworkout Erect: 14.7 inches (Up .2 of an inch!!!!)
Postworkout Flacid: 13.3 inches
Post workout Erect: 14.9 inches (Got pumped up without doing any arm work)

Forearm
Preworkout Flacid: 10.75
Preworkout erect:11
Postworkout Flacid: 11
Post workout Erect:11.15

Comments: I still am not really feeling an everlasting pump. But my strength is steadily climbing. And with the weight jump and arm increase this product can't be denied. Oddly enough for some reasong I felt like my arms were shrinking. I guess I was way off. Sex drive and boners are still rocking. I guess it just took a little extra time to kick in on me I can wait to see what the next week holds.

CEOSM you said that if we post on other boards we get a free bottle for each board, I post on two others I was wondering if I could get those asap, so I can stay on it without a break. I sent you the emails with the boards in them last week. If you can get me the bottles I would be glad to keep my log going for as long as you like.
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You are getting pumps on arms when not doing arms is a sure sign its working!

Please post the logs links on this thread and send me your address by pm.

ceosm
 
PS--Anyone else that wants the Beta ASAP for posting a log on other boards. First post the log link on this thread and send a PM.

thank you!
 
Here’s my log update on either of the below.



In summary though, everything is going very well with this beta test and am very impressed on pumps, strength, sleep, mood and libido. All in such a short space of time.

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ps ceosm, I accidently deleted ur email, could u resend?
 
USPLabs said:
PS--Anyone else that wants the Beta ASAP for posting a log on other boards. First post the log link on this thread and send a PM.

thank you!
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Hey man, got the beta in the mail today, and want to say thank you again....I will be putting up a new one over at bn.com, but am hesitant to post it here as there is some 'competition' with other vendors over here.....anyway, I mod over there, so just check out the product testing forum....

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ceosm, at my weight and supp experience, what dosage do you feel I should start at? Today I took 7 to start with....
 
Max32 said:
Hey man, got the beta in the mail today, and want to say thank you again....I will be putting up a new one over at bn.com, but am hesitant to post it here as there is some 'competition' with other vendors over here.....anyway, I mod over there, so just check out the product testing forum....

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ceosm, at my weight and supp experience, what dosage do you feel I should start at? Today I took 7 to start with....
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7 is good, currently I am using 6 a day from using 9 a day and the effects seem the same.
 
USPLabs said:
7 is good, currently I am using 6 a day from using 9 a day and the effects seem the same.
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sounds good brother....If this supp can get me to using the 130's on incline naturally for sets of 8-10, I am sold...you gonna be at the mr. olympia? I forgot to tell ya that I may be having surgery this fall, and will be putting high dose cissus into my regimen to speed things up....shoot me a pm if you would like more details on it bro..
 
Just a quick update........
Strength gains and pumped feelings in gym are still very present...My appetite is really through the roof. Now the weight gain i could not believe. im up 5 pounds in five days ..now i know im eating more, but that is pretty extreme. I am not noticing any sexual sides although my drive is pretty high anyway. also I am getting a little " bacne" which is unusual but nothing major. Still really taking the strength increase in stride because i have injured myself in the past going to heavy too quick.

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I think I found that pump you were looking for....had a blow-out on an errand run yesterday, and by the time I got done with jacks & tires & such, my arms were practically swollen...even this morning, I can barely lift a cup of coffee (and THAT's serious!).

As a result, I can't really give a pre-workout measurement (didn't have the tape w/ me in the truck):

weight is 210

Forearms unflexed/flexed: R+L=12.25/12.50
Upper Arms unflexed/flexed: R+L=13.00/14.00

same measurements last night (pre+post) and this morning.
sleep still excellent, no sexual side-effects (it's okay: I'm married to a woman who doesn't like sex), and I'm HUNGRY ALL THE TIME!

(had to switch computers & FINALLY GOT THIS THING WORKING this morning...but have to run to get to work now - will post to Synergy when I get back)
 
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zed said:
Just a quick update........
Strength gains and pumped feelings in gym are still very present...My appetite is really through the roof. Now the weight gain i could not believe. im up 5 pounds in five days ..now i know im eating more, but that is pretty extreme. I am not noticing any sexual sides although my drive is pretty high anyway. also I am getting a little " bacne" which is unusual but nothing major. Still really taking the strength increase in stride because i have injured myself in the past going to heavy too quick.

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Your are 5lbs heavier but do you look leaner in the mirror?

On my 7th day, I was like 7 lbs heavier off an erogmax cycle but in the mirror, I was convinced that I was lighter because of the fat loss. I thought the fat loss made me look FULLER, but I was heavier and leaner. Yesterday, I am on for 4 weeks about. I did not go the gym but my muscle where Rock hards and wanted to flex all day long because it just feels so damn good to flex!

ceosm
 
BodyWizard said:
I think I found that pump you were looking for....had a blow-out on an errand run yesterday, and by the time I got done with jacks & tires & such, my arms were practically swollen...even this morning, I can barely lift a cup of coffee (and THAT's serious!).

As a result, I can't really give a pre-workout measurement (didn't have the tape w/ me in the truck):

Forearms unflexed/flexed: R+L=12.25/12.50
Upper Arms unflexed/flexed: R+L=13.00/14.00

same measurements last night (pre+post) and this morning.
sleep still excellent, no sexual side-effects (it's okay: I'm married to a woman who doesn't like sex), and I'm HUNGRY ALL THE TIME!

(had to switch computers & FINALLY GOT THIS THING WORKING this morning...but have to run to get to work now - will post to Synergy when I get back)
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Welcome to the PUMP side..lol
 
matt212 said:
Could you stack this? Let's say with a PP or SD cycle? Just curious.
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Anything can be stacked in essence but would you really want to?
 
Here's my logs:

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Your are 5lbs heavier but do you look leaner in the mirror?

On my 7th day, I was like 7 lbs heavier off an erogmax cycle but in the mirror, I was convinced that I was lighter because of the fat loss. I thought the fat loss made me look FULLER, but I was heavier and leaner. Yesterday, I am on for 4 weeks about. I did not go the gym but my muscle where Rock hards and wanted to flex all day long because it just feels so damn good to flex!

ceosm
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I am pretty lean to began with. My Lean , muscular frame just looks thicker. I think my legs are really where im gaining the weight. I obviouslly look bigger and five pounds is more noticeable the shorter one is. People are commenting, i just say "call me Barry." which is joke considering this is a natural combo of herbs.

Also my log at anabolic reveiw someone asked whats in it. Is there a answer forthcoming or will it always be a mystery blend of known Herbs?

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