Okey, that's nice to hear some more light been shed on the E. Cottonii and it's effects. I would like to hear more.
Regarding my post, I was talking exlusively in comparison to Fadogia, as that's what the OP asked, when he replied to my post where I wondered about it's MOA and effect on LH. And the "Some of the things mentioned here" was indeed referring to the ingridients you just listed. Also I said "if it works as advertised", which would make it a very good supp for increasing LH, as it would work like a serm.
Maybe this was unnecessary repitition, but I feel like you misunderstod my post = )
I remember talks about a study where E. Cottonii "outperformed Tamoxifen", but I don't know any details. Perhaps that is exatcly one of the things you mean, when you say claims and hype taken very out of context.
Btw, do you have more knowledge or an opinion on the MOA of Fadogia, that I was wondering about few posts above?
I was confused because he had asked about Fadogia related to your post on it and you had quoted that but then had talked about E. Cottonii in your reply.
And please don't take anything I said in my post as being critical of you. It wasn't at all. You did an excellent job of qualifying what you said with the 'if it works as advertised'. And that was the part in my reply where I was addressing with saying that some of the claims on it are being taken out of context or embellished very much.
This is one of those times where I'd probably be better off just to let an ingredient get or stay overhyped since we'll be using it in an upcoming product, but I suck at doing that - that whole dang honesty thing gets in the way of me being good at marketing haha. Joking, kind of but also kind of serious.
I think that the ingredients you mentioned in the thread that are in M-Test are much better for what the OP is looking for.
Head to head with Fadogia, I think that Fadogia is much better than E. Cottonii.
I think that overall M-Test is a much better bet for the issues the thread relates to and I base that off of the ingredients, the way they work, years of feedback, and also personal bloodwork. As some here know (and I think you may, not sure), I have an endocrinology condition and long story short causes my numbers to be all over the place and not necessarily trail the other numbers in the way that they should. M-Test is the best thing I've ever used to help keep my free testosterone levels and LH levels where they need to be. That's why its a daily use supplement for me.
You asked my opinion on what you posted above in relation to Fadogia - I think that you are mistaken, most of the research indicates that Fadogia increases LH levels and free testosterone levels. I don't think there's really any way that Fadogia would suppress LH levels from anything I've read. And I've done a lot of refresher reading on Fadogia lately because in addition to the hint already dropped about CEL doing a product that will have E. Cottonii in it, I'll also go ahead and say that SNS will be doing a Fadogia XT product because we've been asked so much to do one. So I've been doing a lot of refresher reading on it.
As for E. Cottonii, in reply to what you said:
I remember talks about a study where E. Cottonii "outperformed Tamoxifen", but I don't know any details. Perhaps that is exatcly one of the things you mean, when you say claims and hype taken very out of context.
Yes, that is definitely one of the things I meant about it being taken out of context and embellished.
It was actually your and my conversation on E. Cottonii that got me to looking a lot deeper into it.
I haven't started the ingredient part of the write up for the product that will have it in there yet, but when I do, I'll send it over to you to check out as soon as I get it done, before the product release. The way I research and the way I write is in a way that my notes don't make sense to anyone besides me until I start to put them together into proper format haha.
