jarhead said:tren/test/dbol is awesome for mass. if it's your first time using tren, stay at 75mg every other day. Not just for safety, but because it seemed to be effective at low doses for a COUPLE of cycles. stay with as small a dose as you can while still making gains. there's also not much room to increase the dose. I even got good results from a tren only cycle at this dosage. Tren is awesome! As far as results, from a tren only cycle, I usually put on 8- 10 pounds of SOLID weight while strength increases alot, and the cool thing about tren is keeping the gains you make is easy and seems to get easier the longer you use it.
Jason161 said:Im thinking of somthing like this.
Weeks 1-3 Prop 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-5 Tren 75mg EOD
Weeks 1-14 Test Enanthate 500m Week
Weeks 1-12 EQ 400mg Week
Weeks 6-9 1-Test Transdermal
Weeks 10-15 Tren Ace 75mg EOD
Weeks 13-16 Prop 100mg EOD
This would be a good ass body recomp, average doses. Prop ends when enanthate kicks in, and kicks back in at the end while eq and enanthate wears off, tren is bridged by the 1-test trans. Spaced out so its not all flowing at once.
jarhead said:What does the proviron add to this stack? I don't have any experience with it.
size said:tren is an amazing drug but i think it is evil.
ironviking said:Why is this? Is it a physical evil or more what it does on the mental level? I know after about 5 weeks on it I want to jump through walls I mean literally jump through walls no expressions there.
jarhead said:It has always had this label even though there are no human studies to back it up. Alot of the current "experts and gurus" in the bodybuilding world have been saying this for a while.
I understand your point. Really we don't have ANY solid human studies on any of the things we dabble in. I should have also added in my last post that after 5 years of using tren, I've never gone above 75mgs every day.size said:The lack of human studies is part of my concern.
DuhT-rex1 said:If you eat red meat regularly, you have tren in your already.
Tren is pretty harsh, its 3 times more androgenic then test, so the sides can get overwhelming, some people can't handle it very good, some can..
Definetly run it with test or have fun with no bone.
I am right now-here's my cycle-bad rad said:Anyone ever stacked tren with deca? How did it work?
jarhead said:What does the proviron add to this stack? I don't have any experience with it.
works great. but some people can get shutdown hard on that so be carefulbad rad said:Anyone ever stacked tren with deca? How did it work?