Best test booster?

[xam2991]

look at my join date versus yours...and you are going to question my experience...lol!!!
I have tried everyone of the products you have listed and I am buying diesel....have you actually tried diesel???

Yeah.....so much more experienced just because you became a member of this ONE site before i did lmao. If you really think that a bunch of products that have crappy prop blends that are underdosed are really that awesome, then i wont argue with you. You can't fix stupid. and yes as i said before i have taken your crap product. now you're just coming off as a marketing shill

 

[thebigt]

Yeah.....so much more experienced just because you became a member of this ONE site before i did lmao. If you really think that a bunch of products that have crappy prop blends that are underdosed are really that awesome, then i wont argue with you. You can't fix stupid. and yes as i said before i have taken your crap product. now you're just coming off as a marketing shill

look we can disagree about a product line, no problem...but when you resort to name calling of people that disagree with your opinion that is going to far.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Anyone with half of a brain can tell that diesel test is an awful, under dosed, proprietary blend of crap. I would never buy a diesel product.

Ok....seach any get diesel product name on here and you will see over 10 years of satisfied customers...so really it doesn't bother me what you take, or the comments you make.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Not sure what your basing the zero experience off of. Diesel test sucks ****. Alphamax, bioforge v3, and lj100 are test boosters i have enjoyed. If you think that anything with an underdosed prop blend is going to be a good product then you are just dumb. sorry lol

This type of stuff is hilarious. No test booster makes it over 10 years on AM with the scrutiny AM members put products thru without being worth a damn. You seem pretty pissed. Meanwhile a DT tablet is like 2 grams....but its a bunch of underdosed stuff. Ok.

 

[xam2991]

Yeah, and Test1fy pro has less ingredients but is 30 grams. 2 grams is not a large amount given what is listed on the label. if you'd like, i can give you a mathematical run down on why your prop blend sucks. it would probably go over your head, but ill give you a free lesson in basic math

 

[thebigt]

Yeah, and Test1fy pro has less ingredients but is 30 grams. 2 grams is not a large amount given what is listed on the label. if you'd like, i can give you a mathematical run down on why your prop blend sucks. it would probably go over your head, but ill give you a free lesson in basic math

I bet I can piss farther than you can......

 

[thescience]

Given the degree if agression in the thread, id say everybody's test booster is working just fine

 

[cubsfan815]

Given the degree if agression in the thread, id say everybody's test booster is working just fine

Lmao!

Alphamax for me a$$hole

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Yeah, and Test1fy pro has less ingredients but is 30 grams. 2 grams is not a large amount given what is listed on the label. if you'd like, i can give you a mathematical run down on why your prop blend sucks. it would probably go over your head, but ill give you a free lesson in basic math

Ok so use Test1fy pro. I think we just solved ur problem correct??

 

[Afi140]

Given the degree if agression in the thread, id say everybody's test booster is working just fine

Best post I have seen in a while.

 

[nasty88]

pine pollen

 

[thescience]

pine pollen

well, the cell wall would have to be cracked, and then youde have to inject it, but at that point u arent boosting test, youre taking it. actually,though, the levels in pollen are quite high

 

[mbonheur]

Well, I take it as a homemade tincture (keep it under the tongue for a while) and for me it is among the very few things that work. Nothing crazy, but still pretty decent results.

 

[thescience]

Well, I take it as a homemade tincture (keep it under the tongue for a while) and for me it is among the very few things that work. Nothing crazy, but still pretty decent results.

i forget the numbers; at one point i crunched them and i think there was some more ideal large amount that would definately be hard to take sublingually and i definately dont recommend injecting a wad of it. obviously if someone was successful in messing around with enough pine pollen, there would also be the risk of suppression, aromatization (see B*tch t*ts development) testicular shrinkage, cholestasis, and throwing off your hpa axis etc, but yeah ive heard the tincture is believed to comprimize the cell wall, though i havent seen anything on the extent that it does

 

[nasty88]

Nope.it can boost test if u eat it.it has prohormones as well as vitamins and minerals that support testosterone.and the cell wall doesnt need to be cracked,stomach acid is a little strong.personally i think it works like dht and helps keep free test high.

 

[nasty88]

If you dont believe me try it!pine pollen is amazing for boosting testosterone.I can feel it working.Also longjack/tongkat ali,ashwaganda and stinging nettle root are great!Zma tribulus and fenugreek.Every now and again ill take these not daily or routinely but if i feel i need a boost.I believe you shouldn't take anything every single day.

 

[nasty88]

i made a everclear tincture but it burns too much any tips?

 

[mbonheur]

i forget the numbers; at one point i crunched them and i think there was some more ideal large amount that would definately be hard to take sublingually and i definately dont recommend injecting a wad of it. obviously if someone was successful in messing around with enough pine pollen, there would also be the risk of suppression, aromatization (see B*tch t*ts development) testicular shrinkage, cholestasis, and throwing off your hpa axis etc, but yeah ive heard the tincture is believed to comprimize the cell wall, though i havent seen anything on the extent that it does

To be fair, I have not done any bloodwork for this (but for stuff like TA, Bulbine, etc.) and ecdysterone stuff works me like a charm. It could be placebo, but I do have some experience with test boosters, etc. and I do like it. I have tried it as a powder and it gave me a Rhodiola rosea style kick.

So, not sure about the science behind it, but my anecdotal personal experience indicates me that it is great stuff, at least as a tincture. But then again, I am also a believer of ecdysterone which is not getting good reviews everywhere

 

[Chuck Diesel]

To be fair, I have not done any bloodwork for this (but for stuff like TA, Bulbine, etc.) and ecdysterone stuff works me like a charm. It could be placebo, but I do have some experience with test boosters, etc. and I do like it. I have tried it as a powder and it gave me a Rhodiola rosea style kick.

So, not sure about the science behind it, but my anecdotal personal experience indicates me that it is great stuff. But then again, I am also a believer of ecdysterone which is not getting good reviews everywhere

Nah I think ecdy works at certain doeses. I know for protein synthsis didnt pay attention to testcanf libido bc that was 10yrs ago. So what ur saying is prob right...not placebo.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Also there are a lot of ways to boost test and a lot of how you respond is based on your natural chemistry or thr state your HTPA is in. No one month in test boosting (naturally) is the exact same as any other month

 

[mbonheur]

i made a everclear tincture but it burns too much any tips?

Since it is almost pure alcohol, you can basically add water to it until you reach the desired alcohol content. Mixing tables are readily available on the net. However, 50:50 works great for me and the stuff lasts forever. It should be at least 40% (Everclear is about 95%)

 

[nasty88]

Since it is almost pure alcohol, you can basically add water to it until you reach the desired alcohol content. Mixing tables are readily available on the net. However, 50:50 works great for me and the stuff lasts forever. It should be at least 40% (Everclear is about 95%)

Thanks .I really love the stuff too when i need the boost.amazing how something so cheap and common is so awesome

 

[Blazemedic]

I just cycled Activate Xtreme and I felt that it worked great. Slightly more definition, more confident under the weight with a steady increase in reps and weight throughout cycle. The one thing I missed with this was aggression in the gym. I felt very relaxed and almost drained at times, however this could have been due to my busy work schedule or my pre workout simply not kicking in as I would like.... Which is another issue altogether. I am looking forward to taking Anafuse after my current cut cycle.

 

[ddubbs]

ANSI Testovar

We gave away a bunch of Testovar on here and got great feedback
Solid formula. Sex Drive and Strength Gains through the Roof
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[Daycrawler]

Bulbine. Fadogia. DAA. SNS sells Bulbine and DAA cheap. Only place I'd trust Fadogia from is Omega.

 

[kisaj]

We gave away a bunch of Testovar on here and got great feedback
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DAA- inconsistent benefits at very best
Maca is underdosed.
Chrysin is useless orally.
Trib studies have been done on 60%+ Saponins and results have shown no benefit for athletic or libido purposes.

Just sayin.

 

[alvin1]

DAA- inconsistent benefits at very best
Maca is underdosed.
Chrysin is useless orally.
Trib studies have been done on 60%+ Saponins and results have shown no benefit for athletic or libido purposes.

Just sayin.

Was thinking the same, I would not buy or recommend this at all, way better product out there.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

From what my customers tell me and the logs on here say, DIESEL TEST Procycle is the best, single product (formula) booster avail., people won't tell you that use, it but tons of reps and etc do. Its only cool to openly speak about the popular brands, but test boosters is one thing that separate the real from the fake. The thing about the test booster market is you can't just throw some caffeine or beta alanine in a test booster and people feel like its doing something because your face itches.

One of best that is legal outside the US (as in no DHEA or yohimbe) is Diesel Test Hardcore, which has been logged on here for over 10 years.

The only other ingredients that I know of that work for some stand alone but very well with herbal test boosters are Long Jack and Bulbaine(?). People take DTH with Bulbaine. The only problem with Bulbaine is the supply is very wishy washy like Fadigoa. Trust me, DIESEL TEST came out in 2005, in 11 yrs if something new came out that worked really well (legal and natural test elevation), it would be in my test boosters. I was the first to put LJ100 in test booster formulas way back in like 2006. I had LJ100 in the original ready4war caps in 2007. It has had a re-resurgence but been around for years. It def has to be cycled, a few days on, a few off etc.

The people out there getting PCT blood work done, and actually felling like punching a wall will let you know if a test booster work for them. Also its not cheap to make good test boosters. Never will a good test booster cost under $30. Never seen it.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

From what my customers tell me and the logs on here say, DIESEL TEST Procycle is the best, single product (formula) booster avail., people won't tell you that use, it but tons of reps and etc do. Its only cool to openly speak about the popular brands, but test boosters is one thing that separate the real from the fake. The thing about the test booster market is you can't just throw some caffeine or beta alanine in a test booster and people feel like its doing something because your face itches.

One of best that is legal outside the US (as in no DHEA or yohimbe) is Diesel Test Hardcore, which has been logged on here for over 10 years.

The only other ingredients that I know of that work for some stand alone but very well with herbal test boosters are Long Jack and Bulbaine(?). People take DTH with Bulbaine. The only problem with Bulbaine is the supply is very wishy washy like Fadigoa. Trust me, DIESEL TEST came out in 2005, in 11 yrs if something new came out that worked really well (legal and natural test elevation), it would be in my test boosters. I was the first to put LJ100 in test booster formulas way back in like 2006. I had LJ100 in the original ready4war caps in 2007. It has had a re-resurgence but been around for years. It def has to be cycled, a few days on, a few off etc.

The people out there getting PCT blood work done, and actually felling like punching a wall will let you know if a test booster work for them. Also its not cheap to make good test boosters. Never will a good test booster cost under $30. Never seen it.

Danes talks about tongkat ali a lot, and he mentioned that Dr. Tambi says that there's no need to do anything like a 5/2 cycle. The research seems to support this as well, with one study noting increases in testosterone (+37%) and decreases in cortisol (-16%) with 4 weeks of daily dosing:
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another study noted that "Treatment resulted in significant increases in total and free testosterone concentrations and muscular force in men and women" with 5 weeks of daily dosing:
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and yet another study noted no adverse effects (but did notice beneficial effects) with 13 weeks of daily use:
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I'm not saying that there's anything "wrong" with a 5/2 dosing protocol, or something similar, but there really doesn't seem to be a need for it.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

^^ ask ppl that use it. Not research. Quality long jack can be taken at 200-400mg a day for about 10-14 days but will prob need 10 days plus off after that for same effects. Less than everyday for long term use. I know this for a fact. Been dealing w long jack for over 10 yrs. Not just reading pubmed on 2 week studies

I didnt say "adverse" affects. Also its up to the consumer. They can use it every day if they want. Wont do anything after a while. They will tell u that.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Also I think the disagreement is on "results" as in what do I feel this product is doing for me, versus "lab test." For instance, a product can increase your test levels after week 4 more than it did at week 1, WHILE also decreasing your libido and energy levels compared to week 1. Thats long jack. Its more of an adaptogen. Low dose over a long time, medium dose short times, high doses day after day will make you energized at first....then restless after a few days, then your libido will be gone....then you will not see the other effects like bigger loads etc. Its called being "torque out." BUT you may test higher for higher test levels at this point. So its really an issue of do you want a product to "do something" or do you want a product to produce highest test results but not necessarily do anything.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Also I think the disagreement is on "results" as in what do I feel this product is doing for me, versus "lab test." For instance, a product can increase your test levels after week 4 more than it did at week 1, WHILE also decreasing your libido and energy levels compared to week 1. Thats long jack. Its more of an adaptogen. Low dose over a long time, medium dose short times, high doses day after day will make you energized at first....then restless after a few days, then your libido will be gone....then you will not see the other effects like bigger loads etc. Its called being "torque out." BUT you may test higher for higher test levels at this point. So its really an issue of do you want a product to "do something" or do you want a product to produce highest test results but not necessarily do anything.

Same effects in regards to what? I agree that it's up to the consumer, and it varies from person, but I think it's fair to say that benefits in regards to hormones and strength/composition (admittedly things that you probably can't really feel) will persist for weeks with daily use.

EDIT: I see what you're saying. There is some research (weather that's important to you or not) that shows daily use for weeks can also improve strength and body composition, as well as reduce stress/anxiety, so I wouldn't say that daily use will not "do something," it just may do something different (but still potentially useful IMO). Perhaps these same benefits can also be had with smaller "cycles" on and off.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Yes, that. ^^

But I've worked and used Kaden Biochemicals (first to standardized for eurycomalone) and HP ingredients (they introduced LJ100 over 10 yrs ago) Long Jack for like 10 yrs. So I know a crap load about long jack.

Whatever the case, Long Jack and Bulbane are the only 2 ingredients Ive seen work as to turbo charge test booster formulas. Like as a stack. Tribulus, most you see on the market is for libido. DAA is popular ONLY because its hella cheap. It cost a bit more than creatine so naturally its gonna be in 99% of test boosters. It isn't useless just wishy washy.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Yes, that. ^^

But I've worked and used Kaden Biochemicals (first to standardized for eurycomalone) and HP ingredients Long Jack for like 10 yrs. So I know a crap load about long jack.

I know you know your stuff.

When I use tongkat, I tend to only use it for a few days at a time, mostly because I use it for the increase in libido, which seems to work very quickly and would be too much at times, so I've never really found out if that increase in libido tapers off with prolonged use.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I know you know your stuff.

When I use tongkat, I tend to only use it for a few days at a time, mostly because I use it for the increase in libido, which seems to work very quickly and would be too much at times, so I've never really found out if that increase in libido tapers off with prolonged use.

Yeah this is what I was going to say also, then when the libido kicks in, when you stop using it, its still around for like 2 days! It will go away, try using it for 20 days straight. You also will find yourself needing a nice amount of time off for it to work again, sometimes 2 months.

When I was based out of central Florida, where HP ingredients is based, the owner use to give me LJ100 at 50mg. This is the freeze died LJ100. Companies can also buy a "carrier" LJ100. I could take 1 of those caps with the original yellow label DIESEL TEST for libido 2 days and be good, 3 I felt like running thru a wall, but after like 20-30 days....nothing at all. It did calm me down a lot, but people buy test boosters to bone like a gladiator, run thru walls and recover during PCT, not to be "relaxed."

 

[PJLFit]

I purchased this stack here -> bodybuilding .com/store/lecheek/the-stack-of-gains.html

Lecheek TX-3 (Serving size 6 caps dosed in the morning)
D-Aspartic Acid 3.1 g
Fenugreek Extract (seed) 300 mg
Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) 100 mg

Lecheek AD-3 (Serving size 2 caps 30 min before bed)
Mucuna Pruriens (15% L-Dopa) 800 mg
Milk Thistle Extract 360 mg
Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) 100 mg

The TX-3 is a 25 day supply and the AD-3 is a 30 day supply. Should I buy another stack after the 25 days and continue for 50/60?

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I purchased this stack here -> bodybuilding .com/store/lecheek/the-stack-of-gains.html

Lecheek TX-3 (Serving size 6 caps dosed in the morning)
D-Aspartic Acid 3.1 g
Fenugreek Extract (seed) 300 mg
Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) 100 mg

Lecheek AD-3 (Serving size 2 caps 30 min before bed)
Mucuna Pruriens (15% L-Dopa) 800 mg
Milk Thistle Extract 360 mg
Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) 100 mg

The TX-3 is a 25 day supply and the AD-3 is a 30 day supply. Should I buy another stack after the 25 days and continue for 50/60?

After this stack I can only recommend you to get one bottle of DIESEL TEST procycle for less money, and will last you longer and I bet you will never go back to this stack...

This is an entry level stack of inredients that really should all be in one product. People can home brew this stack for $30 a month. I don't see it being worth $66 plus shipping.

 

[ucheoma]

Sad to see people blowing money on test 'stacks' like the above

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Sad to see people blowing money on test 'stacks' like the above

With shipping thats $73 dollars or so! But then people say "Fck no Im not spending $30 on BCAAs"

 

[cubsfan815]

Haven't tried Diesel Test yet

But agree that is an expensive stack above. Could have basically got 8 weeks of Alphamax XT.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Haven't tried Diesel Test yet

But agree that is an expensive stack above. Could have basically got 8 weeks of Alphamax XT.

I dnt mean this in any way....Good or bad. But why would they put 0.2mg of b6 in a product?

 

[Adizzle1]

Its part of a low dose ZMA complex and prob the least important part of the 3; Mag, b6, Zinc.

 

[ucheoma]

I dnt mean this in any way....Good or bad. But why would they put 0.2mg of b6 in a product?

Good point. The magnesium and zinc are paltry considering your taking 4 pills. Tbh though the strength lies in the core products rather than the ingredients at the top of the profile

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I just found a bottle of MN "Test Factor." in my "stash" cabinet. I don't even rem ever opening this, but its half gone. from 2010.

 

[totalpackage]

I know you know your stuff.

When I use tongkat, I tend to only use it for a few days at a time, mostly because I use it for the increase in libido, which seems to work very quickly and would be too much at times, so I've never really found out if that increase in libido tapers off with prolonged use.

I've used Diesel Test and long jack in many occasions over the years and from my experience with it 5 days on 2 off
for me was the best dosing. Libido would be strong the first 3 days and taper off the last two but once it was in my system
for at least two weeks dosing like this on the two days off libido would be STRONG on off days and feel just a good as the
first 3 days on but you have to be using a quality product with a quality extract of long jack for these effects and Diesel Test
has produced these effects for me.

 

[PJLFit]

With shipping thats $73 dollars or so! But then people say "Fck no Im not spending $30 on BCAAs"

Well, I did have a discount code and stuff so I got out under 60 bucks. I've heard a lot of good things about Daa and the Lecheek brand so I went for it. I'll check out Diesel and Alphamax for next run. Would they be OK to take right after I finish up my bottles?

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Well, I did have a discount code and stuff so I got out under 60 bucks. I've heard a lot of good things about Daa and the Lecheek brand so I went for it. I'll check out Diesel and Alphamax for next run. Would they be OK to take right after I finish up my bottles?

Yes either one would b ok bc that combo stack u got is very entry level interms of test boosting that requires time off so your body can go back to normal. At the least ot should work for libido or test if you respond well to DAA

 

[PJLFit]

Haven't tried Diesel Test yet

But agree that is an expensive stack above. Could have basically got 8 weeks of Alphamax XT.

I purchased Alphamax on amazon. I don't think it's the XT version as it doesn't say that. Is that cool to run with my stack above?

 

[cubsfan815]

I purchased Alphamax on amazon. I don't think it's the XT version as it doesn't say that. Is that cool to run with my stack above?

You could run Alphamax with that stack. However, I would hang on to it and run it a few weeks after you finish current stack. Otherwise you would not know what's doing what.

Although I think it would be obvious.

 

[PJLFit]

You could run Alphamax with that stack. However, I would hang on to it and run it a few weeks after you finish current stack. Otherwise you would not know what's doing what.

Although I think it would be obvious.

Hahaha, thanks again for the help. I'll probably grab another bottle of it and run it for 8 weeks. Heard way too many good things.