Best test base for Epistane/Trenavar cycle

M-sten=stronger or weaker than sd? A lot of different opinions out there.
 
oyvind said:
Hehe:-) I heard some rumours that my joints hired an asassain to kill me if I did more than 14 days, so I just had to stop.:-) really, it's actually ok. Drinking lots of oils, and eating lots of fat:-) but yes, you certainly dry out a bit; -)
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Do you get any estrogen rebound ?
 
oyvind said:
M-sten=stronger or weaker than sd? A lot of different opinions out there.
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Msten is definitely weaker than sd. I gained stupid weight on sd but felt like sh1t!
 
Thor101 said:
Dude tr3st all the way. Honestly I like the oral version better than the Td, but God damn at 100mg a day of the oral tr3st it was better than 500 mg of test e a week than I ran as my first cycle.
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Did you get bloods on your test cycle? That's a pretty bold statement. I liked trest as a feel good and libido compound but I don't think it added very much in terms of gains.
 
hide83 said:
Did you get bloods on your test cycle? That's a pretty bold statement. I liked trest as a feel good and libido compound but I don't think it added very much in terms of gains.
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I started this cycle of trest solo and gained about 10 pounds of trest in 2 weeks before adding in any other compound. You can make gains off of trest, it is much more than just a base.
 
yates84 said:
Msten is definitely weaker than sd. I gained stupid weight on sd but felt like sh1t!
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Yes this. I just finished three weeks and while I did notice on cycle it's more noticeable now in retrospect how bad I felt now that I'm off it lol.

Back pumps walking a block to the bus stop fml.
 
georgetown said:
True if one were to choose epiandro here even tho it converts to dht would that hurt a cycle at all becuase i have heard things about it really helping with energy and strength?
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It helps with energy and libido by itself but with all these other dry compounds, no it won't help. Doesn't help with strength at all.
 
yates84 said:
I started this cycle of trest solo and gained about 10 pounds of trest in 2 weeks before adding in any other compound. You can make gains off of trest, it is much more than just a base.
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I'm sure you know this but weight is one thing lbm is another. 10lbs on the scale means jack sh!t to me personally. There's quite a few compounds that will do that. If it were IM trest I'd believe it but oral I have a hard time. Not saying his lying I just think his test was severely underdosed.
 
hide83 said:
I'm sure you know this but weight is one thing lbm is another. 10lbs on the scale means jack sh!t to me personally. There's quite a few compounds that will do that. If it were IM trest I'd believe it but oral I have a hard time. Not saying his lying I just think his test was severely underdosed.
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Possibly underdosed, that isn't too uncommon. You should look at my log, I gained 20 pounds this cycle and a good 15 of it was lbm. I have before, middle, and after pics up too. Trest may not be stronger than test but it is much more than just a base.
 
yates84 said:
Possibly underdosed, that isn't too uncommon. You should look at my log, I gained 20 pounds this cycle and a good 15 of it was lbm. I have before, middle, and after pics up too. Trest may not be stronger than test but it is much more than just a base.
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Hey bro, could you put a link up to your log for me. I'm really interested
 
jmyers said:
Hey bro, could you put a link up to your log for me. I'm really interested
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It's a training log with my wife who is also my lifting partner. Join along!
 
hide83 said:
Did you get bloods on your test cycle? That's a pretty bold statement. I liked trest as a feel good and libido compound but I don't think it added very much in terms of gains.
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What good would blood work do in terms of gains? Lol
 
hide83 said:
Did you get bloods on your test cycle? That's a pretty bold statement. I liked trest as a feel good and libido compound but I don't think it added very much in terms of gains.
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No bloods done but I feel like trest is better to use solo than test or better to use with fast acting orals for a shorter cycle. If i was running Tren or Deca I would opt for Test E.
 
Yep. At first I will be running TD Trest 25 mg twice a day and Oral Trest 25 mg pre-workout. And of course, adjust as needed throughout cycle
 
Trest is spectacular at 200mg!
 
jmyers said:
Lol. Indeed. But, in all honesty the money is not a problem for me. It's just starting off slow. Just to see how my body reacts.
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Definitely don't try that dose without some serious ancillaries. Sorry, that wasn't intended as a practical opinion on dosing. You have your dose right where it needs to be for starters
 
oyvind said:
hysterical dosage man, but I have to try. standalone I presume?:hump:
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Nope, had 6 weeks of epistane in there too.
 
oyvind said:
Hohooooo:-)
Tell me about it!
Sides? gains? epi/tr3st dosage? Length? Supps (a.i and liver)? Pct and after pct?
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Completely side free cycle with 20 pounds of gains. 2 days into pct so we shall see what happens. Follow my log, I post pics, workouts, and all that good stuff. Ran epi for 6 weeks at 45mg and trest started at 150mg and worked up to 200mg.
 
yates84 said:
Completely side free cycle with 20 pounds of gains. 2 days into pct so we shall see what happens. Follow my log, I post pics, workouts, and all that good stuff. Ran epi for 6 weeks at 45mg and trest started at 150mg and worked up to 200mg.
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And where will I find the log?
 
T-Bone said:
Only way I'd run that much is if I had a closet full of the stuff.
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I've got the bottom of my closet full of this kinda stuff.
The rest is filled with pwo's..
You know, just in case.... :-)
 
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