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Best pre-workout? GO!

I don't know I just searched reviews on ds frenzy on google but given driven sports history, I'm pretty sure there's more than your regular amp citrate in there lol. I would still try it though
 
carmaf said:
Lol sounds like a real piece of garbage.



So Craze is similar to Adderall? What about EC? I've heard EC feels similar to Adderall.
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It feels a lot like adderall. I don't get that same feeling from EC. Closest would be OG Detonate. Glad I still have a few bottles!
 
ForceOfNature said:
I don't know I just searched reviews on ds frenzy on google but given driven sports history, I'm pretty sure there's more than your regular amp citrate in there lol. I would still try it though
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That have got to have been paid to say that bc Craze is legendary
 
Pre-kaged stack with hemavo2 or high volume. For men out there becareful stacking those two it migth be too damn pump even yours will pump up hehe.
 
carmaf said:
Hahahha oh sh*t you are right. I just assumed it was a joke post because I never see DS pres recommended anymore.

Have you ever tried real meth to compare? I may have missed out on Craze, & I don't play the drug game, but I'm down to try meth once...just once. I'm assuming it was much weaker though bc I never heard of people on their knees to pay for Craze.
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"I'm only gonna try meth once" said every single meth head. Now they're leaving uncapped dirty pins around they're grandmas house while they take apart another '89 S-10.
 
jaredmus said:
Craze had me zoned in like no other, I remember certain times I would take 2 scoops, I was so focused sweating like crazy. Still GOAT or pre workouts lol
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Lol I don't think the term pre applies to Craze, it was a straight up drug.

Audioph1x said:
"I'm only gonna try meth once" said every single meth head. Now they're leaving uncapped dirty pins around they're grandmas house while they take apart another '89 S-10.
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Hahahhaaha amazing. I have good self control but yeah I've heard it doesn't quite work like that.
 
carmaf said:
Lol I don't think the term pre applies to Craze, it was a straight up drug.



Hahahhaaha amazing. I have good self control but yeah I've heard it doesn't quite work like that.
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Lol **** methamphetamine. Meth addicts don't even lift.
 
Yea, there is a difference between amphetamines (like what was found in Craze) and METHamphetamine (recreational drug). They are not the same
 
BRUstrong said:
Yea, there is a difference between amphetamines (like what was found in Craze) and METHamphetamine (recreational drug). They are not the same
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Methamphetamine is an amphetamine. Just like d-amphetamine is also an amphetamine. They (d-amp and m-amp) effect the brain in slightly different ways, but are both amphetamines.

People use all different amphetamines for recreational purposes. Not being a dick, just FYI.
 
Audioph1x said:
Methamphetamine is an amphetamine. Just like d-amphetamine is also an amphetamine. They (d-amp and m-amp) effect the brain in slightly different ways, but are both amphetamines.

People use all different amphetamines for recreational purposes. Not being a dick, just FYI.
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I understand that. But like you said, they affect the body in different ways. It's not the same affect. Similar, but not the same. That's why I'm not addicted to Craze after using tubs upon tubs back in the day.
 
Pre-made:
GAT NITRAFLEX

That I mix myself from pure bulk powder:
Beta-Alanine, creatine,taurine and D-Aspartic..stick some powder DHEA under my tongue too.
 
paula said:
Pre-kaged stack with hemavo2 or high volume. For men out there becareful stacking those two it migth be too damn pump even yours will pump up hehe.
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hemavo2 all the way. Just got back from a nightime workout where this was the only thing i dosed pre-workout... was awesome!
 
BRUstrong said:
I understand that. But like you said, they affect the body in different ways. It's not the same affect. Similar, but not the same. That's why I'm not addicted to Craze after using tubs upon tubs back in the day.
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carmaf said:
Ok this explains a lot. I'm not a drug user so I had no clue, but I was coincidentally discussing Meth with someone today randomly, and I also brought up Craze. I know Meth is supposedly a one-time life ruiner, but I never understood why people aren't addicted to Craze in the same way even after using it a bunch. Apparently all Amphetamines aren't cut from the same cloth which is what they said as well.
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Not sure how a pwo thread became a methamphetamine vs amphetamine discussion....yes, I can. So, the primary difference between the two is that methamphetamine is double methylated. It's this double process that makes it much stronger & allows it to react much quicker in the body. It still metabolizes & is broken down as amphetamine in the body. However, the way it's broken down due to the double methylation is the primary difference. Not to mention the harsh chemicals put into the making of it in someone's kitchen. So, yes "technically" both are amphetamine, but they are not the same thing....like BRUstrong was saying.
 
Ever take adderall or vyvanse? Those are amphetamines too.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Ever take adderall or vyvanse? Those are amphetamines too.
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No but I will one time just to try it. I'm an ADD kid though so I heard those actually mellow you out rather than stim you up. I know that ECA did that for me, no energy at all, just made me an indifferent zombie.
 
carmaf said:
No but I will one time just to try it. I'm an ADD kid though so I heard those actually mellow you out rather than stim you up. I know that ECA did that for me, no energy at all, just made me an indifferent zombie.
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How do other stims affect you?
Adderall and similar also mellow me out a little but allow me to focus intensely on my task at hand, i.e. studying, cleaning the apartment, etc.
Never taken ephedrine but I plan on it in the near future. But other stims really don't give me that much energy, which is why I lean more towards pump preworkouts and nootropics.
 
BamBam0319 said:
How do other stims affect you?
Adderall and similar also mellow me out a little but allow me to focus intensely on my task at hand, i.e. studying, cleaning the apartment, etc.
Never taken ephedrine but I plan on it in the near future. But other stims really don't give me that much energy, which is why I lean more towards pump preworkouts and nootropics.
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Caffeine used to give me the best energy, fallen off since I was taking 600-800mg a day with the ECA stack, so I need a big reset break.

Yohimbe is good but a lot of time makes me jittery and gives me crazy anxiety.

E destroyed my hunger and my ADD racing thoughts, gave me good focus, but no energy/motivation, and blunted all emotion. I did want to clean sometimes on E but that's about it.

Never tried anything harder.
 
I've recently started using Chaos & Pain's Aggro, and with the addition of that, I didn't need any amphetamines in order to study for all the exams I just had this past week. I'm very grateful for that.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I've recently started using Chaos & Pain's Aggro, and with the addition of that, I didn't need any amphetamines in order to study for all the exams I just had this past week. I'm very grateful for that.
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I really like Aggro...especially for my late night workouts. Plenty of focus & motivation, but can still be in bed at a decent time.
 
YatesWifey04 said:
I really like Aggro...especially for my late night workouts. Plenty of focus & motivation, but can still be in bed at a decent time.
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Yes absolutely! I really like that there is picamilon and other mood stabilizers in there, the perfect balance between energy, focus, and calmness.
 
I really enjoy phenylpiracetam but only use it 2 (at most 3) times per week due to tolerance. You guys should check out the nootropics sub forum on here. Lots of great info!
 
BRUstrong said:
I really enjoy phenylpiracetam but only use it 2 (at most 3) times per week due to tolerance. You guys should check out the nootropics sub forum on here. Lots of great info!
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Yeah I've gotten a ton of good info from Muscleupcrohn's thread alone.
 
ForceOfNature said:
How do you like the picamilon? I'm debating on whether to stock up on picamilon or grab a bottle of PEA with picamilon.
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I like it, gives me a calming feeling but not to the point where I can't focus on anything. If anything it allows me to have better focus.
If you can I'd just grab both, for versatility.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I like it, gives me a calming feeling but not to the point where I can't focus on anything. If anything it allows me to have better focus.
If you can I'd just grab both, for versatility.
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How much do you use? I was thinking of snatching up some SNS Picamilon before it's gone for good but I don't know if I should buy the 50 or 150
 
carmaf said:
How much do you use? I was thinking of snatching up some SNS Picamilon before it's gone for good but I don't know if I should buy the 50 or 150
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I've been using 100mg at a time. I ordered the 150 but they sent me the 50. Aggro has 200mg in it and I handle that just fine, so I'd definitely grab the 150 if you can and just assess what dose affects you in the best way.
I'll probably still pick up a 150 bottle if I can so I can play around with my doses a bit using the 150 and 50.
 
I can only get the 50. My options:
3 bottles SNS picamilon 50
Focus xt
Noopet xt with one bottle picamilon 50
PEA 500 extreme with one bottle picamilon 50
SNS Alcar with picamilon 50
What should I go for for mood enhance and focus?
 
ForceOfNature said:
I can only get the 50. My options:
3 bottles SNS picamilon 50
Focus xt
Noopet xt with one bottle picamilon 50
PEA 500 extreme with one bottle picamilon 50
SNS Alcar with picamilon 50
What should I go for for mood enhance and focus?
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Can you get focus XT and a bottle of picamilon? That'd be a good combo.
 
Go with FXT bc it's a great base to add almost anything to.
 
Isn't SNS discontinuing Picamilon? It seems you're interested in that so getting 3 bottles of it will probably be your best choice for now.

I prefer Aggro to FXT. Never saw much from Noopept either but probably didn't use it long enough
 
Woody said:
Isn't SNS discontinuing Picamilon? It seems you're interested in that so getting 3 bottles of it will probably be your best choice for now.

I prefer Aggro to FXT. Never saw much from Noopept either but probably didn't use it long enough
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Yes they discontinued but I'm just interested in which ever gives me a mood boost. I heard PEA give an intense rush and euphoria but I also heard picamilon gives a mood boost, energy and focus. It's supposedly a "smart drug". Also that's weird you didn't see anything from Noopet, anytime I have taken a product with it I get really good focus and tunnel vision.
 
Fully loaded amplified is decent
Angel Dust V2 is significantly stronger than V1. And it simply rocks
 
I know hella reps are in this thread. Which company wants my seasonal PWO fund? Send dem samplez and I'll send dat cash SRS
 
I like samples
 
Audioph1x said:
Hell yeah man.
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They're so versatile haha so much more transportation friendly than a full tub of PWO. Every time I visit home I go to the supp store my friend works at and I walk out with a grocery bag full of samples. Lasts me weeks even if I use more than one per day.
 
BamBam0319 said:
They're so versatile haha so much more transportation friendly than a full tub of PWO. Every time I visit home I go to the supp store my friend works at and I walk out with a grocery bag full of samples. Lasts me weeks even if I use more than one per day.
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I don't believe you so if you wouldn't mind posting me this so called grocery bag full of samples, Once it arrives I will send it back with apologies .

PM me for address ;)
 
regdabyenoh said:
I don't believe you so if you wouldn't mind posting me this so called grocery bag full of samples, Once it arrives I will send it back with apologies .

PM me for address ;)
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Haha! I will gladly post a pic after I make my routine visit.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Haha! I will gladly post a pic after I make my routine visit.
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Hahaha I'm actually down to see this. I've seen people post an entire living room floor covered with samples before.

What type of products are we talking though? Quality samples? Some products are so bad I even throw their samples in the trash.
 
carmaf said:
Hahaha I'm actually down to see this. I've seen people post an entire living room floor covered with samples before.

What type of products are we talking though? Quality samples? Some products are so bad I even throw their samples in the trash.
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They're good samples. I only take what I want so I grab the good stuff ;)
 
BamBam0319 said:
They're so versatile haha so much more transportation friendly than a full tub of PWO. Every time I visit home I go to the supp store my friend works at and I walk out with a grocery bag full of samples. Lasts me weeks even if I use more than one per day.
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Ok cool, so next time you get a full tub of any pre workout, take a scoop out and put in a little baggie, then close it up and ship the tub to me. By the way I don't like pres with yohimbine of any form. Ok let me know!.
 
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