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Best pct ever!!!!!

KenTheEagle

KenTheEagle

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I just finished my pct with clomid and tamoxifen and it was great!, didnt get gyno and i feel good. This is the protocol suggested by Michael Scally if i am not mistaken.... take clomid x 4 weeks and at week 3 add tamo for 4 more weeks.

My dosage was clomid at 50 x 4 weeks and tamo at 20/20/10/10


Now i was not very comfortable using tamo due to the genotoxic part, and also the liver issues it might cause, for my next PCT i was thinking on using clomid and torem together (replacing tamo for torem) instead, have you ever tried this combo?

it is said that torem is way better and safer than tamo any inputs? i never heard about anyone using clomid and torem together.... yet! :P
 
I have never run two serms in one pct, but I like torem so much better than nolva I would use that with Clomid. It is a derivative of nolva but with fewer sides and brings thr boys back faster.
 
Sounds similar to a PCT i just finished up. I ran the most extreme cycle that I have ever ran that was an all oral/trans dermal cycle. It was 8 weeks long. I did week: 1-4 clomid 50/50/25/25 Week 3-7 Nolva 20,20,10,10 (Pahrm Grade) and then did 6 bromo week 7-10 at just 25 mg per day. I didn't buy my usual herbal test boosters etc... Did my total test levels and came back yesterday morning at 1147. The test was taken 5 days after my last dose of 6 bromo. Pre cycle my test levels were only 621. I will retest in 4 weeks to see where they have maybe stabilized at.
 
liftin4fun said:
Sounds similar to a PCT i just finished up. I ran the most extreme cycle that I have ever ran that was an all oral/trans dermal cycle. It was 8 weeks long. I did week: 1-4 clomid 50/50/25/25 Week 3-7 Nolva 20,20,10,10 (Pahrm Grade) and then did 6 bromo week 7-10 at just 25 mg per day. I didn't buy my usual herbal test boosters etc... Did my total test levels and came back yesterday morning at 1147. The test was taken 5 days after my last dose of 6 bromo. Pre cycle my test levels were only 621. I will retest in 4 weeks to see where they have maybe stabilized at.
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nice... pls update... ill stay subbed here
 
liftin4fun said:
Sounds similar to a PCT i just finished up. I ran the most extreme cycle that I have ever ran that was an all oral/trans dermal cycle. It was 8 weeks long. I did week: 1-4 clomid 50/50/25/25 Week 3-7 Nolva 20,20,10,10 (Pahrm Grade) and then did 6 bromo week 7-10 at just 25 mg per day. I didn't buy my usual herbal test boosters etc... Did my total test levels and came back yesterday morning at 1147. The test was taken 5 days after my last dose of 6 bromo. Pre cycle my test levels were only 621. I will retest in 4 weeks to see where they have maybe stabilized at.
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That is sweet, yes please update when you get them.
 
Thank you guys for the input, i think for my next tren cycle i will add torem instead of nolva and run it along with clomid. Most would say that torem is enough but i think that clomid is a must.... cant wait for my next cycle :P

L4F please keep us updated, im curious on how the 6 bromo is beneficial to increase test/help with recovery... i always had the idea that an ai would prevent hpta recovery. but stll unsure.... i always wannted to add exemestane on pct as well it is said that it might increase test 2.
 
Since your body uses test to create estrogen, crushing your estrogen will encourage your body to create test with the intent to convert, which the ai will prevent, its called a negative feedback loop? I dunno I could be completely wrong.
 
stamp_on_kids said:
Since your body uses test to create estrogen, crushing your estrogen will encourage your body to create test with the intent to convert, which the ai will prevent, its called a negative feedback loop? I dunno I could be completely wrong.
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Thats Jus a lil mixedup. Crushing estro bad bad bad, properly managing estro level good. The negative feedback loop is commonly refering to when something is too high production of said hormone will stop. Now there is where it gets fuzzy, aromatase increases in response to high test levels (synthetic or otherwise) in an attempt by your body to maintain its test to estro ratio as these two are intrinsically connected in your bodies hormone programming. But post cycle outside introduction of androgens (ph/inj) drop off a cliff (if youve been shutdown obv) while the aforementioned aromatase enzyme is still elevated. So common practice is to introduce an a.i. during your pct regime, usually two weeks after the start of your serm and to run it an additional 4 maybe 6 weeks so that they (serm n ai) overlap by two weeks. Make sure you use an a.i that is suicidal to prevent unwanted rebound. Each a.i also have other diff effects associated individualy (i.e. forma&hpta) which will influence your choice also that i wont go into but anyone can correct me if i screwed up anything. Hope that helps with a better understanding tho despite the lack of detail.
 
I've used liquid Torem after a 6wk SD cycle and loved the results -- never threw in clomid tho as heard bad things about it.
 
liftin4fun said:
Sounds similar to a PCT i just finished up. I ran the most extreme cycle that I have ever ran that was an all oral/trans dermal cycle. It was 8 weeks long. I did week: 1-4 clomid 50/50/25/25 Week 3-7 Nolva 20,20,10,10 (Pahrm Grade) and then did 6 bromo week 7-10 at just 25 mg per day. I didn't buy my usual herbal test boosters etc... Did my total test levels and came back yesterday morning at 1147. The test was taken 5 days after my last dose of 6 bromo. Pre cycle my test levels were only 621. I will retest in 4 weeks to see where they have maybe stabilized at.
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Just got my test values checked on 6/21. It came back at 770 and feel great. I think my extended PCT really paid off for me.
 
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