Best Mild PH/DS for Strength (US legal)

[Cheeky Kunt]

Want to run a quick little mild cycle wondering what is the best option for strength (I can also get some PH’s from UK, but no source for AAS atm). Prob stack with Epi/1andro since I have On hand

170lbs with 340 paused bench. Want to compete in Oct sometime (bench only) and would love to throw some pounds onto my 1RM for a good # in my comp.

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

Is hexadrone still around/popular? I remember like last year everyone was saying if you get the right form it’s pretty awesome stuff. Haven’t seen it mentioned at all lately tho... was it just hyped bc company reps were doing their jobs ? Or ?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Epistane, or low/mod dose of DMZ

 

[StarScream66]

1,4DHEA if you can find it. or 1-DHEA.

 

[Renew1]

Epistane, or low/mod dose of DMZ

Epistane is illegal in the US, right?

 

[ECUKingbuddy]

I would look for Azavar, Triumphalis, or any Methyldiazirinol clones out there. Will definitely add some lbs to your bench, while not causing you to gain much mass.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Epistane is illegal in the US, right?

Epistane is scheduled, but available if one wanted it.

 

[Renew1]

Epistane is scheduled, but available if one wanted it.

His Title says "(US legal)".

 

[ValiantThor08]

His Title says "(US legal)".

My bad, in didn't notice that.

DMZ low dose will be your best bet.

 

[Renew1]

My bad, in didn't notice that.

DMZ low dose will be your best bet.

Epistane is a Jammin' compound though ... For those that can take it.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Epistane is a Jammin' compound though ... For those that can take it.

Strength gains galore

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

Strength gains galore

Always wanted to try Epi. Watched my buddy suffer craaaazy heartburn like sides tho he had to give up 3 weeks in

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

My bad, in didn't notice that.

DMZ low dose will be your best bet.

20-30mg? How does DMZ solo pair against Hdrol? Usually always see DMZ stacked with Msten, and saw a lot of people claiming Hdrol is good for strength (to my surprise)

 

[ValiantThor08]

20-30mg? How does DMZ solo pair against Hdrol? Usually always see DMZ stacked with Msten, and saw a lot of people claiming Hdrol is good for strength (to my surprise)

Probably similar in strength, with slightly more lean mass gain.

 

[chaz]

I second azavar/methyldiaz.... one of my fav compounds. Some may disagree, but I've always looked for an OTC var product and to mme this would be mdiaz. Great for leaning out and strength. When I started heavily cutting down from a bloated and fat PL type physique a cpl of years ago mdiaz kept me getting stronger while on a deficit and cut.

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

I would look for Azavar, Triumphalis, or any Methyldiazirinol clones out there. Will definitely add some lbs to your bench, while not causing you to gain much mass.

I second azavar/methyldiaz.... one of my fav compounds. Some may disagree, but I've always looked for an OTC var product and to mme this would be mdiaz. Great for leaning out and strength. When I started heavily cutting down from a bloated and fat PL type physique a cpl of years ago mdiaz kept me getting stronger while on a deficit and cut.

Leaning towards Hdrol rn. How does mdiaz compare ?

 

[dezzy84]

I second azavar/methyldiaz.... one of my fav compounds. Some may disagree, but I've always looked for an OTC var product and to mme this would be mdiaz. Great for leaning out and strength. When I started heavily cutting down from a bloated and fat PL type physique a cpl of years ago mdiaz kept me getting stronger while on a deficit and cut.

Are there any UK shops that are sponsors here by chance? Trying to get my hands on this stuff, I loved it as well.

 

[Renew1]

Are there any UK shops that are sponsors here by chance? Trying to get my hands on this stuff, I loved it as well.

Not right now (to my knowledge).

 

[dezzy84]

Not right now (to my knowledge).

Preditor is a no go for now?

 

[Renew1]

Preditor is a no go for now?

They're not a site sponsor.
You couldn't even say their name on here for a while.

 

[Whisky]

A decent form of 1-t (like pred’s nano 1-t) would be a decent strength option.

 

[delsolrob]

should check out Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations - combination of transdermal 4-dhea + androsterone

not only will you get some great gains, you should feel amazing!

 

[Afi140]

should check out Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations - combination of transdermal 4-dhea + androsterone

not only will you get some great gains, you should feel amazing!

I’m only a few days in but you can definitely call this a feel good product. Check it below if you want

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations combined two ingredients that work together synergistically to give you the best outcome, hard muscle gains!

www.strongsupplementshop.com

 

[Afi140]

should check out Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations - combination of transdermal 4-dhea + androsterone

not only will you get some great gains, you should feel amazing!

I’m only a few days in but you can definitely call this a feel good product. Check it below if you want

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations combined two ingredients that work together synergistically to give you the best outcome, hard muscle gains!

www.strongsupplementshop.com

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

What about 3 weeks of Msten?

1-3 Msten 10-20mg
1-6 1-Andro 220-330mg
1-6 epiandro 300mg +

Might stretch the Andro’s to 8 weeks

 

[delsolrob]

What about 3 weeks of Msten?

1-3 Msten 10-20mg
1-6 1-Andro 220-330mg
1-6 epiandro 300mg +

Might stretch the Andro’s to 8 weeks

epiandro dose is probably too low to do anything, maybe even too low for transdermal - you may want to consider running ultra hard - Generously dosed combo of epiandro and androsterone (375mg epiandro plus 125mg androsterone per application)

 

[Cheeky Kunt]

epiandro dose is probably too low to do anything, maybe even too low for transdermal - you may want to consider running ultra hard - Generously dosed combo of epiandro and androsterone (375mg epiandro plus 125mg androsterone per application)

I said 300+. Last time I ran it 300mg was enough to harden me and boost libido

 

[StarScream66]

What about 3 weeks of Msten?

1-3 Msten 10-20mg
1-6 1-Andro 220-330mg
1-6 epiandro 300mg +

Might stretch the Andro’s to 8 weeks

I'd probably throw some testosterone in there in the form of 4DHEA throughout the whole cycle.

 

[Hyde]

Not mild, but M1A is the top legal oral in US for strength. 40mg/day has done me right twice now (Centurion Labz & Vicious Labs were both great).

In case you decide to go all in.

 

[thebigt]

I’m only a few days in but you can definitely call this a feel good product. Check it below if you want

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations

Alpha Four by Iconic Formulations combined two ingredients that work together synergistically to give you the best outcome, hard muscle gains!

www.strongsupplementshop.com

i ran alpha four for 2 months, loved it...in november will be running with icon one[1-dhea]